It's Climate Change I tell'ya!! IT'S CLIMATE CHANGE!!

Serryah

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And from the article: "The proportion of the extra rise driven by climate change was not considered by Albert’s study."

The paper in your linked article was Dr. Simon Albert...



The scientist in the video linked was... Dr. Simon Albert.


The article was from 2016.


Video is from 2019.




https://www.civil.uq.edu.au/news/ar...parking-‘humanitarian-crisis’-solomon-islands


Note by Dr. Solomon about the 60 Minutes piece.




Seems like after his 2016 study which did not include climate change as a factor, was looked at again and the team revised its findings...


Or are you going to make an excuse for the change in his presentation three years later?
 

petros

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Sea level has been steadily rising since preindustrial times and there is no upward curve to indicate an acceleration. Its linear.
That why he didnt scream "climate change". I bet doing so threatened his funding and back pedalled.
 
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Serryah

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Sea level has been steadily rising since preindustrial times and there is no upward curve to indicate an acceleration. Its linear.
That why he didnt scream "climate change". I bet doing so threatened his funding and back pedalled.


Right... it couldn't be because he didn't factor in climate change on the initial study... no, had nothing to do with that at all, it's all about funding...


:roll:


There's rising and then there's rising at three times the rate in a short time.



Which would indicate... acceleration and an upward curve...


But you know more than the guy studying the area. Right.
 

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Right... it couldn't be because he didn't factor in climate change on the initial study... no, had nothing to do with that at all, it's all about funding...
:roll:
There's rising and then there's rising at three times the rate in a short time.
Which would indicate... acceleration and an upward curve...
But you know more than the guy studying the area. Right.

You should read the article, because you are jumping to conclusions just like Gaurdian

From Petros's article

Many media outlets, including the Guardian, jumped to the conclusion that the islands were lost to climate change. But this largely misinterprets the science, according to the study’s author, Dr Simon Albert.
“All these headlines are certainly pushing things a bit towards the ‘climate change has made islands vanish’ angle. I would prefer slightly more moderate titles that focus on sea-level rise being the driver rather than simply ‘climate change’,” Albert told the Guardian.
The major misunderstanding stems from the conflation of sea-level rise with climate change. As a scientifically robust and potentially destructive articulation of climate change, sea-level rise has become almost synonymous with the warming of the planet.
However, as Albert’s paper points out, the ocean has been rising in the Solomon Islands at 7mm per year, more than double the global average. Since the 1990s, trade winds in the Pacific have been particularly intense. This has been driven partly by global warming and partly by climatic cycles - in particular the Pacific Decadal Oscillation.
 

petros

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Right... it couldn't be because he didn't factor in climate change on the initial study... no, had nothing to do with that at all, it's all about funding...
:roll:
There's rising and then there's rising at three times the rate in a short time.
Which would indicate... acceleration and an upward curve...
But you know more than the guy studying the area. Right.
Show me a graph of nonlinear sea level rise.
 
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Serryah

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You should read the article, because you are jumping to conclusions just like Gaurdian

From Petros's article


I did.


Maybe you should too.



And from that very part you posted: However, as Albert’s paper points out, the ocean has been rising in the Solomon Islands at 7mm per year, more than double the global average. Since the 1990s, trade winds in the Pacific have been particularly intense. This has been driven partly by global warming and partly by climatic cycles - in particular the Pacific Decadal Oscillation.


And three years after the study, he says there is a connection still.


Did you watch the video at all, just curious.


 

Ron in Regina

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The following isn’t any newer, but it is refreshing. I believe it’s from 2015 though:
It’s an interview with Randall Carlson. Very very knowledgable on many many subjects. Even if somebody just watches the first hour it’s an eye-opener. This is somebody who doesn’t have a dog in the fight, but a very very smart person.
 

petros

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From your link....


There is no common reference level for the tide gauge records and this provides a problem when stacking records that do not cover the same time periods. One way overcome this problem is to calculate the rate of change in sea level for each station and stack the rates [Barnett, 1984]. However, many stations have historically only been measured for some months of the year and an annual cycle in sea level could therefore lead to severe bias.
 

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From your link....


There is no common reference level for the tide gauge records and this provides a problem when stacking records that do not cover the same time periods. One way overcome this problem is to calculate the rate of change in sea level for each station and stack the rates [Barnett, 1984]. However, many stations have historically only been measured for some months of the year and an annual cycle in sea level could therefore lead to severe bias.
At MacKenzie Beach , some springs a large rock is uncovered and full of sea weed . Other years you do not see the rock because it is sand covered . Apparently it depends on winter storms .
 

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I'd rather believe the people actually living there and studying the issue than, you know, someone who isn't.




Thank you Serryah for exposing your DUPLICITY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


By telling us you would rather believe the people GETTING PAID TO SUPPORT A SPECIFIC LIE-beral view!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


By extension you make it clear you support GREEDY CIVIL SERVICE HOGS.............................


over the general public!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


You are sufficiently arrogant in your values that I think you must have been Marie Antoinette in another life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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petros

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Cold wave grips northern Saudi Arabia, meteorologists fear strongest cold snap ever

Posted by Julie Celestial on January 30, 2020 at 08:28 UTC (13 hours ago)
Categories: Extreme cold, Featured articles, Severe weather
 

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December 2019 Arctic sea ice grew by an average of 82,100 square kilometers *per day. This is 18,000 Sq Kms faster than the 1981 to 2010 average gain of 64,100 square kilometers and is the third fastest December ice growth rate in the satellite record.
 

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December 2019 Arctic sea ice grew by an average of 82,100 square kilometers *per day. This is 18,000 Sq Kms faster than the 1981 to 2010 average gain of 64,100 square kilometers and is the third fastest December ice growth rate in the satellite record.
That must be where the cold weather came from . Or something .