homeless people

Sal

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Small percentage is mental illness majority of homeless are able bodied and can be helped to be more productive and workfare can do the job.

that's pretty vague and very generalized

Here are some stats

"Estimating the number of homeless persons in Canada has been a source of debate for years. The Homelessness Partnering Secretariat (HPS) has regularly used the estimate that between 150,000 and 300,000 individuals experience homelessness in Canada in a given year,"

Violence against women (Family violence is a major cause of homelessness for women)

that does not include this group: A 2010 study of Violence Against Women shelters in Canada showed that there were 593 different operators of shelters (this includes emergency shelters, as wellas transitional and second-stage housing for women fleeing violence) and that there were 64,500 admissions of women to shelters across Canada in 2009. Almost one third (31%) had been in the same shelter at sometime in the past.

Who is homeless:

The homeless population in Canada is quite diverse, in terms of age, gender, and ethno-racial background.The Segeart study (2012) identified the mean age individuals staying at shelter as being 37 years of age, and includes children, youth, adults and the elderly. Interestingly, those 65 years of age and older comprised just over 1.7 percent of shelter users, which may be explained by the expanded benefits accessible to seniors, but also by the much higher mortality rate of chronically homeless persons

For how long are people homeless

Research from the North America shows that for the vast majority of people who become homeless, the experienceis rather short. In Canada, though the median length of stay in emergency shelter is approximately 50 days, most people are homeless for less than a month (24-29% stay only onenight), and manage to leave homelessness on their own, usually with little support (Segaert, 2012:19). For these people homelessness is a one-time only event

However herein lies one of the major issues of homelessness in Canada

Conversely, a segment of the homeless population is chronically or episodically homeless. Chronically homeless individuals are people who have been on the streets for a long time, potentially years, and are locked into a state of homelessness due to multiple needs across health, addiction and contact with criminal justice system. Episodically homeless individuals have an ongoing patternof homelessness throughout their lifetime. These groups are significant because combined they account for less than 15% of the homeless population, but consume more than half the resources in the homelessness system, including emergency shelter beds and day programs

Why this matters:

People who are chronically homeless make up a small portion of the overall population, but have the highest needs. The longer one is homeless, the greater likelihood that preexisting and emergent health problems worsen (including mental health and addictions) and there is greater risk of criminal victimization, sexual exploitation and trauma. There is also a much greater likelihood of involvement in the justice system. All of this makes life much more challenging for people who experience chronic homelessness.
 

Twila

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Home is where the heart is. You could plunk people into housing but will it be their home?

Petros, that is a wonderfully clear and conscise way of describing it. Great quote.
Follow the heart and you might find what mental condition, mental anguish or mentall fvckery is causing the addiction and if you could do that, we'd have a cure. A cure for PTSD, for most emotional issues, etc.

IT would be a beautiful thing. But unfortunately, we don't understand the brain so very well and most people have these hang ups when it comes to OTHER peoples mental conditions.

There are a couple of promising drugs that treat the mental condition that causes addiction and emotional issues. But the gov't have classified them as highly illegal and you have to travel to a far distant country for treatment.


Ayahuasca
 

Sal

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There are a couple of promising drugs that treat the mental condition that causes addiction and emotional issues. But the gov't have classified them as highly illegal and you have to travel to a far distant country for treatment.
Ayahuasca

and speaking of enlightened human beings...I could listen to this guy forever...I think I'm in love...I will be looking him up on line...thanks for the introduction Twila
 

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The idea behind Housing First is to stop focusing on temporary shelters and instead make it a priority to get homeless people into places of their own — without imposing rules such as staying sober. The policy was first tried in the United States and Great Britain.
The report says 1,147 people used emergency shelters in Medicine Hat in 2008-2009. That’s a big problem for a city of 61,000 people, said Clugston.
But 672 people have been brought out of homelessness since the city adopted the Housing First strategy five years ago — including 220 children — according to the Medicine Hat Community Housing Society, which is overseeing the program.
About 72 per cent of the participants have succeeded in the program and maintained their housing.

very impressive!!

“And now I’ve become their advocate and have to admit it’s the right thing to do, it’s the moral thing to do. And it makes sense financially,” he said.
“If you can get somebody off the street, it saves the emergency room visits, it saves the police, it saves the justice system — and so when you add up all those extra costs … you can buy a lot of housing for that amount of money.”

amazing that they convinced him and kudos to him for being open and honest about it
 

MHz

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What a great name for a town, Exodus. 'Home of the Last Ride Water Park and Crematorium.'
Do it like they did in the UK, knock em out and when they woke up they were at their new home already.
 

Curious Cdn

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Do it like they did in the UK, knock em out and when they woke up they were at their new home already.

Australia?
 

IdRatherBeSkiing

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www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJsiAz9qCmM

Here is an interesting social experiment to see how Canadians and Americans react to the homeless. This experiment was shot in the cold for 30 minutes. We were surprised by how different the responses were.

Heartless bastards south of the border.. ;)

Problem is he was using a red cup in the USA and a white cup in Canada. Clearly that must be the difference.

While I don't necessarily dispute the result, was the temperatures the same? People are more generous in colder weather.

And nice way to resurrect a dead thread.
 

B00Mer

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Problem is he was using a red cup in the USA and a white cup in Canada. Clearly that must be the difference.

While I don't necessarily dispute the result, was the temperatures the same? People are more generous in colder weather.

Vancouver & Seattle would be my guess, both damp, cold and wet all year long. :lol:


And nice way to resurrect a dead thread.

The foot traffic says it was a success. ;)