I know exactly what you said, and I attempt to reduce my personal insults to a minimum.... as it goes for "Abusive" I couldn't give a sh*t... it's words, deal with it.
I do deal with it. I point it out and then ignore it. If you want to act that childish it's up to you.
I don't have to suck hole anybody to say what I have to say.... and quite honestly, saying it as I see it tends to get the message across a lot faster then pampering people's sensitive eyes from words they might find mean.
lol Do you stamp your feet and hold your breath, too? Or is it just the cursing and namecalling?
I can accept that you are limited in your abilities to get your point across and having to be abusive in doing so. But I found if people were less abusive there'd be a lot less strife in the world.
As case in point in a couple of posts above.... you're wrong.
Nope. You're wrong.
Well gee sorry, but it seems like the question and debate was too complex for some, so I dumbed it down a little to a yes and no question.... now you complain it's too simple.... geez... sometimes you just can't please a person.... always "I want this I want that, Gimmie gimmie gimmie."
But then you whine that people see black and white. But, I guess you don't understand the concept of cause and effect.
Don't make me turn this car around.... I swear we'll all go home and never see Disney Land.
aaaawww You should have pullled over and took a break when you got all upset before.
And I'll repeat myself, yet again, and again, and again.... I already said there are some situations where there is no option..... but as I also said before, and again, and I'll say it again.... Shooting animals isn't always the solution either..... such as the chipmunks you mentioned.... I can't remember the last time I ever had to gun down a chipmunk because he was a danger.
Well, I can remember each animal I have shot. No chipmunks among them. But my point was that sometimes you have no choice. And I see you finally figured that out. Thank you.
Do you have things called fences? Do you have things called locks? Do you have things like Motion Sensor Lights? There's all kinds of things one can use.
Yup. Got fences, locks, automatic lights. But I can't afford to build a brick wall high enough around my fruit trees. And that's about what it would take. Also reinforced my chicken coop. Spent about $700 on that. I still think 210 grains of lead is cheaper. And I can be sure that that particular critter wouldn't be back. So I have both now; a chicken coop built like Fort Knox and plenty of 210 gr. pieces of lead.
As I said, sometimes there is no choice. Bear bangers don't work and no way I am getting close enough to a bear to spray it with Bear-Be-Gone. So the last one got two rounds in the bum with salt.
And you know something? And old trick my family has used for their camps on the lake and farms when they had to deal with bears breaking in or stealing food, was to take fishing net and drape it over the doors, or around the trees or food. The majority of bears with sense this as a trap and leave well alone.... in fact, the last time my grandparents camp was raided by a bear was back when I was still in school before they started to do that.
The bear leaves well enough alone, we leave them well enough alone, and everybody lives.
Good idea for 3 or 4 trees. But, I am not going to take the trouble to spread nets over a couple dozen trees 10 meters high. The last bear that got into the feed shed went through the wall. the sheet stell I put up keeps the coons and skunks out nicely, but bears have a little more strength and determination than coons. Maybe you hadn't noticed.
Quite right. If they avoid my trees and feed shed, I leave them to their heart's desires. I actually even grow enough corn for bears, us, and a few neighbors.
I only reflect what's given my way. You like to generalize, so I'll generalize for you, since it seems to be a hobby of yours.... oh, but now you're getting all pissy because it's not working on me.... oh.... too bad *Makes a Sad Face*
lol BS.
Well gee, too bad that decision isn't up to you. If I had all the time in the world, I'd move right next door to you, since our friendship is going oh so well so far.... I think we could be the bestest of buddies.
Then again, there's probably plenty of people like me surrounding you where you live already..... I suppose I should hold the fort in my neck of the woods.
Not telling you where I live then.
Actually I get along quite well with my immediate neighbors. They like what I grow and we like each other's beer. The occasional newbie shows up from the coast and can be fairly obnoxious, but they fit in after a few years. I could tell you a couple stories about a Jewish psychiatrist from Montreal that moved here 15 yrs ago or so. He was the brunt of many practical jokes n the like. Now he's cool.
Asking questions, raising topics, debating things and talking is one thing.... doing is another. As it stands, I'm not interfering with anything, other then your peaceful day.... but you can always just move onto another topic... I can do this forever.
I have no doubt about that. You are probably well practised at BS and causing people grief.
There is such a thing as the internet which holds all kinds of other affordable, more effective, and less time consuming approaches one can take for each paticular situation and location. Since I don't know the details of the size of your land, the amount of animals in your care, the amount of wild animal encounters you have on a regular basis, I am not about to shoot off all kinds of things which may never work.
No worries. I have it down to about one or two incidents every 3 yrs.
The garbage thing was just one example of a recent problem we had to deal with, where something simple worked far better then us chasing around an animal in the dark.
That was never a problem here. We bought an old dumpster from town for $5. It's laying on its side with a hefty Master locking it. There never is very much edibles in it, though, because we have the compost and the chickens. Critters are welcome to the compost but most of the time all we are see crows n ravens there. They don't leave much for their neighbors.
Evil, as opposed to being Good.
I guess the critters in your end of the country are different than here then. Here they don't seem to be evil or good.
Yup, but that's not what you said you were doing.
But my apologies if I didn't clarify that I personally had no issue with hunting or sporting events.... My focus, which I thought was obvious, was towards the generic availability of firearms for anybody in regards to using them against other humans.
No problem. But your focus has been on more than one issue since you started the thread.
The Yes was for the ability to go further into the reasons why you think "Yes" as with No, you would clearly be stating that you personally didn't feel there was an issue... you would have stated your opinion, and that was all that was needed.... I just wanted to check out the general feedback on people and where the majority/minority stood on the subject.
Well, I think there is a problem with illegal firearms in the country. I am not talking about the many guns that people aren't registering so they can practise their civil disobedience. I am talking about the firearms that gangs have, the guns thieved from homes, homemade guns, etc. As far as Joe Lunchbucket shooting his wife for whatever excuse or shooting a couple people in a church goes, I don't think there is anything that can be done before the fact in that case. Perhaps putting armed guards in every building and equipping them with metal detectors? (That's a rhetorical question).
If you don't feel there is a problem, by all means, state why if you like.... if you think there is a problem, like I do, then by all means, state why and for bonus points, you can offer your own solutions or ideas.... I'm open to it all.
So you say.
But when people go into side arguments that don't really relate, such as this whole long winded argument between you and I on how we post and argue (As it has nothing really to do with the original conversation) it side tracks the whole thing in a very big way... as it should be very obvious by now, since we're going into two pages of bitching about the same crap over and over again.
I know we're doing this, and I'll keep doing it until it is reconized.
Apparently. Unlike you, I get bored of it after a while.
Personally, I'm quite capable with a firearm, not to mention responsible. I've taken the proper training and background checks during my training.... that is the argument I am supporting.... proper training and background checks for people prior to them being handed a gun.
Good for you. I am sure a lot of people have had training and have had their backgrounds checked and still shoot others, though.
A former Roman Catholic Irish Male from a Fishing/Military family with a Father as a school teacher in the school you went to has a slight Temper?
Well, I was actually hoping you'd be able to exercise a little self-control instead of getting abusive, temperamental, and petulant.
Heavens to Betsy! Say it isn't so! *slaps cheecks*
I don't have a temper problem, I have an attitude problem, please get it straight. The moment I stop using sarcasm, then you might start to see a temper.... but you have yet to see anything remotely towards what I would call a temper.
Ok, bad attitude then. As you wish.
Meh, why should I stop my whole life just to suit your reading abilities?
Don't stop. I don't like people dying, even the abusive ones with bad attitudes.
You know.... I'm starting to get this whole Jesus Christ impression.... You and others continually claim I say I'm always right and everybody else is wrong, when I have never said that.
People who always think they are always right never say they are. It's a part of their attitude that is quite visible, though.
Pull more sh*t out of your ass if you like, it's all still gonna smell the same.
I don't have to pull it out. If you want I can give you more, but it's getting a bit monotonous.
No, people bitch and moan when I don't entertain their little side track arguments, such as how I'm entertaining this load of crap right now..... but see if I didn't do this, you'd be all in an even worse uproar then you currently are now, and chances are I'll be changed from someone with a "Temper and Attitude Problem" to a Nazi Forum member.
*clicks boots*
If there weren't people like you entertaining me I wouldn't be here. lol
I can well imagine you as being the sort to try bullying people around, yup.
Oh, I know. You're making a perfect example right now.
Thanks, I do like giving examples and reading other people's examples.
The topic is about unnatural deaths? Gee, if I wanted to simplify things like that, I could just claim the topic is about "Human Interaction."
You don't consider being shot to death as unnatural?
The report originally posted was related to gun violence and deaths related to guns.... if you think cars are a related example, then your imagination is a lot more wild then my own.
I use the vehicle death example for the benefit of people like Risus, who seems to think firearm deaths are more important than vehicle deaths.
And you claim I'm the d*ck? You know if I was such a jerk, why are you stooping to my level.... Grampa? Keep it up smart ass... I can do this for a lot longer then you can.
And Child isn't going to affect me none... it just keeps reminding me that you're going to die of old age long before I do.
Where did I call you a "d*ck"?
Sorry, it isn't my ass that's smart.
Actually for brief periods of time I kind of enjoy stooping to your level. Keeps me humble when I do things that remind me I am only human.
Yes, I probably will die of old age before you. I'll probably die contented to that I showed a few people how childish they are, too.
Too bad... start your own damn thread and stay out of mine if you don't like it.
Ah, but it isn't YOUR thread. You made it a public thread when you posted it.
Besides I like the topic and I like pestering people like you.
You can't hi-jack a topic on the very first post, which is the post that creates the topic.... use your head.
I didn't say in which post you hijacked. Use YOUR head. You started in with a few others on page 2 with the hijacking bit. If I start threads I usually remind people who get sidetracked off the topic of what the topic is about. You seem to just join right in the sidetracking.
I highlight anything I feel others, for whatever reason, may find interesting or might relate to them in a topic, and to perhaps help them find parts of the article they want to read, beyond the none important or repetative parts of the article.
Ah, so you think everyone else needs help with their reading, too, not just me. Oh please do teach us some more, oh pinnacle of the literary world.
Is that too complicated for you? I know exactly why I do the things I do, and trust me, I think about what I am about to say or do before I do it.
Uhuh. If you say so.
Your continual bitching about me rather then actually focusing on the topic is pretty consistent... is that a good enough explination for you, oh grand master of words?
Yup. However, if you'd have stuck to your own topic and been civil about it, then things would be different.
See, there you go with not reading things again..... are you sure you shouldn't be on some sort of medication for that problem?
Maybe, but you seem to need it more than me so you can have it.
I never said "Everyone Else Screwed Up" I said "Others Screwed Up" which is a general classification of a select few.... not all.
Pardon me.
At least I can admit when I am wrong and gladly do so. You should try it sometime, it doesn't hurt.
And just because I take the time and effort to follow as many of the rules as humanly possible at one time, doesn't make me a God.... that just means I'm not lazy like you.
I am lazy? How would you know even if I was?
And the Dictator thing will come eventually.... first I have to win the world over with my Dr. House / Pierre Trudeau charm of not giving a rats ass of what other's think of me.
Won't happen. Trudeau had class & House is a character in a tv show (um, IOW, not real).
Well that's good.... not everybody can handle that level of power.
.... and recognize that they are only human. You're right.
Well if that's the case.....
Serious? Me? Nahhh.
