Ford government admits they can't do what they promised

MHz

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What government has ever made their promises a priority once they are in office? Making the swamp bigger and deeper is not really cleaning it up.
 

Hoid

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When Ford promised to keep it he meant get rid of it.

Remember, he is not responsible for what he says or does.
 

MHz

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That also applies to Politicians, Lawyers, Bankers. The only ones that are truthful are the ones at the bottom of this Totem pole.
 

spilledthebeer

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That also applies to Politicians, Lawyers, Bankers. The only ones that are truthful are the ones at the bottom of this Totem pole.


WHERE LIE-BERAL POLICY IS CONCERNED- THE DEVIL IS ALWAYS IN THE DETAILS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


AND LIE-BERALS HIDE THE DETAILS VERY CAREFULLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-BERALS WANT TO PRETEND THEIR GUARANTEED INCOME MESS IS SOMETHING NEW AND UNIQUE- BUT THE FINLAND EXPERIMENT WITH IT GIVES THE LIE TO LIE-BERAL CLAIMS!


CONSIDER:






Here is an article with some interesting truths- that LIE-berals will HATE! With some comments of my own in brackets):

Fantasies won't fix Ontario’s broken welfare system

From Postmedia News. Published: August 11, 2018. Updated: August 11, 2018 5:57 PM EDT

Filed Under: Toronto SUN/ Opinion/ Editorials

Ontario’s Conservative government is “winding down” the basic income pilot project put into place by the former Liberal government.

Launched in 2017, the program was slated to run for three years and paid some 4,000 low-income Ontarians up to $16,989 a year, $24,027 for couples. The only string was a 50% clawback on additional earned income.

Social Services Minister Lisa MacLeod argued giving away money “with no strings attached” fails to help people break the cycle of poverty, re-enter the workforce or get their lives back on track.

(Indeed! There is ample evidence that high taxes that are beloved by LIE-berals are job killers! Otherwise why do they offer up tax breaks to the likes of |Hollywood North and our auto makers in order to save jobs? LIE-berals JUST LOVE making those dirty back room deals that favour one group over another!)

“We need to do more than just help people remain mired in poverty,” MacLeod said in a press release that also announced plans to increase social assistance payments by 3% and within 100 days “to develop and announce a sustainable Social Assistance program that focuses on helping people lift themselves out of poverty.”

Are the Tories on the right track?

(I suggest that NO govt has the ability to create good jobs for us! But Conservatives do understand that big govt and high taxes and killer debt loads ARE the main obstacles to creating more and better jobs here!)

One key attraction of income support programs is they potential to dramatically reduce bureaucracy and red tape. Paying the poor directly theoretically means fewer government workers.

(And just what is the difference between govt workers cutting welfare cheques and govt workers cutting guaranteed income cheques? The LIE-beral semantics of just how red tape can be cut by moving it from one office to another are lost on ordinary people I guess!)

However, you can’t have both a thriving poverty bureaucracy and a robust income support program without endless deficits and unsustainable debt.

That’s what the Finns discovered.

(And our LIE-berals also know that they cannot be elected without first handing out loads of gravy to civil service union Hogs and now that we have hit the debt wall and our borrowing is limited- Hogs are getting restless- and moving their support to NDP instead of suddenly stingy LIE-berals!)

Finland was widely lauded following the highly publicized launch of their own universal basic income experiment in 2017.

The Finns, among the most politically progressive people in the world, are now cancelling the program they thought would save them money.

That’s after finding they’d need to hike taxes almost 30% to support it and discovering it would increase both income inequality and the poverty rate in Finland.

Income support programs ignore inconvenient truths about actual people.

(This is the routine cause of ALL socialist policy failures! It simply ignores social and political reality! But socialism makes LIE-berals look good until the money runs out- Margaret Thatcher said it best when she pointed out: “the trouble with LIE-berals is they always run out of other peoples money”! )

When the NDP recently protested the cancellation of Ontario’s program, they trotted out one recipient who quit a job at a bank he didn’t like to join the program.

Despite an economics degree, he reported being happier getting free money and trading marketing services for free “yoga, float-therapy, psychotherapy sessions, voice-acting lessons, breath-work classes.”

Whether society ought to support welfare as a way of life for those who can earn their own living is debatable. The current Conservative government believes taxpayers should not.

The causes of poverty are rooted in complex individual and societal issues.

They include in Ontario a dysfunctional social housing system, the need for jobs, the reality of mental health and drug and alcohol addictions among some hard-to-serve recipients on assistance and a host of other issues.

What’s clear is we can’t address poverty with simplistic fantasies.

Cancelling Ontario’s futile basic income experiment was the right call.

(I suggest that another reason for poverty in Ontari-owe- in addition to the gravy grabbing tax mad antics of civil service union Hogs and vote buying LIE-berals- is the high number of unsuitable LIE-beral selected immigrants coming to Canada! It is tough enough these days getting along if you are fluent in one of our national languages and have good education- but it gets vastly harder to function if you cannot even communicate effectively and lack educational credentials! The market for pizza makers and taxi drivers and lawn care workers is already saturated! But of course LIE-berals expect to buy the most support from the ranks of those who are least able to function in Canada so the illegals are allowed to keep coming!)
 

spilledthebeer

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And yet another Ford Fail.

Tory denies Ford's request to address gun violence at special meeting
https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/mobile/t...ess-gun-violence-at-special-meeting-1.4056980


HERE IS WHY JACKASS JOHN TORY IS DEAD WRONG TO BE PESTERING FORD WITH PROBLEMS MADE IN TORONTO CITY HALL:




WE NEVER PROSECUTE ANYBODY TO THE FULL EXTENT OF THE LAW AND LIE-BERALS KNOW THIS AND ROUTINELY HIDE THE FACT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


OVER 80 PERCENT OF ALL CRIMINAL CASES ARE PLEA BARGAINED - MEANING MAJOR CRIMES BECOME MINOR AND MINOR CRIME IS FORGOTTEN ENTIRELY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


WITH CRIMES LIKE CARRYING A CONCEALED WEAPON- KNIFE OR PISTOL- BEING MOST FREQUENTLY FORGOTTEN!!!!!!!!!!!!


AND IT IS ILLEGAL TO HAVE AN UNLOCKED PISTOL OUT IN THE OPEN IN PUBLIC AND THAT CRIME IS DROPPED VIRTUALLY ALWAYS!!!!!!!!!!!


IT IS ILLEGAL TO HAVE A LOADED PISTOL IN PUBLIC AND THAT CRIME IS PLEA BARGAINED AWAY LIKE SO MANY OTHERS!!!!!!!!!!!!


IT IS ILLEGAL TO BE IN POSSESSION OF A PISTOL WITHOUT THE PROPER LICENSES AND WITHOUT HAVING COMPLETED TWO LEVELS OF FIREARM TRAINING AND POLICE CHECK AND THAT CRIME IS IGNORED!!!!!!!!!!



IN CANADA- PISTOL REGULATIONS ARE SO TIGHT THAT YOU ARE NOT LEGALLY PERMITTED TO TAKE THE PISTOL- WITH ITS TRIGGER LOCK FIRMLY IN PLACE AND THE WEAPON LOCKED INSIDE A STEEL BOX- OUTSIDE THE HOUSE FOR ANY REASON OTHER THAN TRAVELLING STRAIGHT TO A LICENSED SHOOTING RANGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


THERE IS NO LEGAL PLACE TO USE A PISTOL IN CANADA OUTSIDE A LICENSED SHOOTING RANGE AND THAT CRIME IS DROPPED ROUTINELY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



iT IS ILLEGAL TO STOP ON THE WAY HOME FOR COFFEE AFTER VISITING THE LICENSED SHOOTING RANGE- WITH THE UNLOADED PISTOL TRIGGER BEING LOCKED IN PLACE, THE WEAPON LOCKED IN A STEEL CARRY CASE AND THE CASE LOCKED IN YOUR CAR TRUNK- AND THE AMMUNITION ALWAYS STORED IN A SEPARATE LOCKED CONTAINER!!!!!!!!!!!!!



A PISTOL LOCKED AS DESCRIBED ABOVE AND LEFT IN THE TRUNK OF YOUR CAR WHILE YOU DUCK INTO A COFFEE SHOP FOR TAKE OUT IS ILLEGALLY STORED IN CANADA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



CONSIDERING THE NUMBER OF REGULATIONS THAT A TYPICAL GANG BANGER HAS BROKEN IN THE COURSE OF SHOOTING SOMEBODY- JUST WHO WANTS TO SUGGEST THAT LIE-BERALS ARE SERIOUS ABOUT CRIME CONTROL???????


AND CONSIDERING ALL THIS INFORMATION- WHO WANTS TO SUGGEST THAT BANNING PISTOLS WILL HAVE ANY EFFECT ON CRIME???????????????


AS FOR DETERRING CRIME- LIE-BERALS SCORN CONSECUTIVE SENTENCING!!!!!!!!!!!!


YES- THE MORE CRIMES YOU COMMIT- THE LIGHTER WILL BE YOUR PUNISHMENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


PICTURE THE GANG BANGER WHO IS ARRESTED ON WEAPONS AND ASSAULT CHARGES AND ON DRUG POSSESSION- AND HE GETS 3 YEARS FOR ONE CRIME AND 5 YEARS FOR ANOTHER AND 2 YEARS FOR PAROLE VIOLATIONS- AND ANYBODY BUT A LIE-BERAL CAN SEE THAT THE GUY IS FACING 10 YEARS FOR THE VARIOUS CRIMES!!!!!!!!!!!


WHAT A LIE-BERAL SEES IS A GUY DOING CONCURRENT SENTENCES- MEANING HE IS SERVING SENTENCES FOR 3 SEPARATE CRIMES AT THE SAME TIME- SO HE IS LOOKING AT 5 YEARS JAIL TIME TOTAL - IN THEORY SINCE THE 3 YEAR AND 2 YEAR SENTENCE WILL RUN OUT BEFORE THE 5 YEAR SENTENCE- AND THAT DOES NOT CONSTITUTE PROSECUTION TO THE FULL EXTENT OF THE LAW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NOR ANYTHING LIKE FULL PROSECUTION CONSIDERING ALL THE PLEA BARGAINING!!!!!!!!!



IN ADDITION, LIE-BERALS CONSIDER RUNNING JAILS TO BE A COSTLY NUISANCE THAT CUTS INTO THEIR SUPPLY OF GRAVY SO THE GANG BANGER WHO WAS LOOKING AT A 10 YEAR STRETCH IN PRISON ACCORDING TO THE THINKING OF ORDINARY CDN`S IS REALLY ONLY LOOKING AT A MAXIMUM OF 5 YEARS- AND EVEN THAT IS A LIE-BERAL LIE- THE GUY WILL GET AT LEAST ONE THIRD- AND MAYBE TWO THIRDS OFF THAT 5 YEAR SENTENCE JUST SO LONG AS HE DOES NOT STAB A GUARD OR ANOTHER PRISONER OR GET CAUGHT SMUGGLING DRUGS INTO THE PRISON!!!!!!!!!!!



tHE JAIL TIME THAT AN ORDINARY cDN COUNTS AS 10 YEARS IS REDUCED TO 20- 30 MONTHS UNDER LIE-BERAL MANIPULATION- AND THAT DOES NOT COUNT THE VARIOUS OTHER CRIMES THAT WERE PLEA BARGAINED AWAY THAT LIE-BERALS THINK WE ARE NOT ENTITLED TO KNOW ABOUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!


AND HOW AWKWARD FOR LIE-BERALS THAT LIE-BERAL MP IVAN GROSE IS NOT AROUND TO TELL US THAT HARSH JAIL TERMS DO NOT DETER CRIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


GROSE WAS THE OSHAWA MP AND FORMER ARMED BANK ROBBER THAT LIE-BERAL CHRETIEN CHOSE TO HEAD A STUDY ON CRIME AND PUNISHMENT AND GROSE TOLD US THAT HARD JAIL TIME FOR CRIMINALS WAS A WASTE OF TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!


A LIE-BERAL BAN ON PISTOLS WILL QUITE CLEARLY BE UTTERLY IRRELEVANT TO CRIMINALS ON OUR STREETS SINCE MOST OF THEM ARE CARRYING YANKEE SUPPLIED WEAPONS IN DEFIANCE OF A LIST OF EXISTING CDN LAWS ANYWAY!!!!!!!


ANY PERSON WHO SUGGESTS THAT BANNING PISTOLS WILL AFFECT OUR CRIME RATES IS EITHER IN NEED OF MENTAL HEALTH TREATMENT OR IS A CARD CARRYING LIE-BERAL SEEKING RE-ELECTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

spilledthebeer

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john tory is a tory and never was a lie-beral.


you are sadly mistaken!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


jackass john tory is a "red tory"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


which means he is a closet li-beral- with lie-beral lite views!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


jackass john tory failed to become premier of ontari-owe- and later abandoned the conservative party because his lie-beral lite views were not acceptable to genuine conservatives like harper and ford!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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I get a kick out people who are obsessed with tagging people with labels! We are all mostly a mixture of different things. Basically there's at least two ways of doing things...………………………….what works and what doesn't! :)
 

Walter

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John Tory is a Conservative but he's no Neo-Nazi.

Tory May be a Conservative but he is no conservative.

I get a kick out people who are obsessed with tagging people with labels! We are all mostly a mixture of different things. Basically there's at least two ways of doing things...………………………….what works and what doesn't! :)

Yer an asshole, that’s gotta be a good kick for you.
 

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Because he is now the Premier of a Province, not a City Councellor. There is a full elected council and lately, they have been doing a hell of a lot better job than the Province, has.

This is about Doug getting even with old adversaries. Like Trump, it's all about Doug.
 

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Because he is now the Premier of a Province, not a City Councellor. There is a full elected council and lately, they have been doing a hell of a lot better job than the Province, has.

This is about Doug getting even with old adversaries. Like Trump, it's all about Doug.
Good .