Flu is not the biggest danger ...... It's the vaccine

[Stretch]

H1N1- Swine Flu: A Post Mortem​

'Rarely in the annals of history have we seen such as humongous hoax as the recent “H1N1-pandemic”. What reportedly began in Mexico last spring in Vera Cruz state, at an insalubrious industrial sized pork farm was then upgraded from to a global health crisis. Nine months later it has ended with allegations of an immense imposture on a world-wide scale. A presumably fake flu scare was orchestrated and carefully coordinated apparently from within the WHO’s inner sanctum, in order to boost vaccine sales and the profits of the pharmaceutical industry. Were we all fobbed and sold of bill of goods? Was the “false pandemic” really a hoax or are accusations coming from medical experts such as Dr. Wolfgang Wodarg conspiratorial blather?'

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[countryboy]

Oh oh...this isn't going to be popular...

 

[Dexter Sinister]

Just more junk news from the loons at Global Research, and another fine example of the Web's greatest weakness. Any loon can put up a web site and post any kind of nonsense without fear of interference by anyone who knows anything, there's no editorial oversight or peer review. Then other loons can cite it in support of their foolishness and ignorance, and it becomes self-perpetuating on a scale that was impossible before the Internet came along. Nobody with any real knowledge and critical thinking skills takes Global Research seriously as an information source.

 

[Stretch]

Just more junk news from the loons at Global Research, and another fine example of the Web's greatest weakness. Any loon can put up a web site and post any kind of nonsense without fear of interference by anyone who knows anything, there's no editorial oversight or peer review. Then other loons can cite it in support of their foolishness and ignorance, and it becomes self-perpetuating on a scale that was impossible before the Internet came along. Nobody with any real knowledge and critical thinking skills takes Global Research seriously as an information source.

so what happened to the "pandemic" that who were going on about?
where are the millions that were going to die from this "pandemic"?
This "loon" would like to know...........

 

[Stretch]

H1N1, the False Pandemic

H1N1, the False Pandemic « NWO Observer





The Pig-Flu (H1N1) pandemic is a scam just like the global warming hoax

The Pig-Flu (H1N1) pandemic is a scam just like the global warming hoax | redblueamerica.com

 

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H1N1 Swine Flu Hoax/Fraud Conspiracy



When the avian flu scare arrived, no one questioned it. This time, things are different. Those with some brains, a memory and internet ingenuity are on the case. Let’s hope this message gets out.
H1N1 Swine Flu Hoax/Fraud Conspiracy Theories | NowPublic News Coverage




Ron Paul on H1N1 Hoax: “Scare the People to Death”








H1N1 swine flu hoax falls apart at the seams

H1N1 swine flu hoax falls apart at the seams




H1N1 Hoax - The Greatest Threat to Human Liberty
Ong Eu Soon: H1N1 Hoax - The Greatest Threat to Human Liberty



Exposed: The Swine Flu Hoax!
Exposed: The Swine Flu Hoax!

 

[Dexter Sinister]

The Pig-Flu (H1N1) pandemic is a scam just like the global warming hoax

Entirely predictable response that just shows how little you really understand and the poor quality of the web sites you use to inform yourself. There's nothing I can tell you that'll make any difference to you, you've turned paranoia and misunderstanding into a philosophy of life, but I can assure you that an H1N1 pandemic was a legitimate concern and global warming is real, not a hoax. And I suggest you read Jared Diamond's book Collapse, it will show you how societies that fail to perceive a crisis, or perceive it but fail to respond appropriately, self-destruct. Haiti is the most obvious current example, he discusses it at some length and compares it interestingly with the Dominican Republic, which shares the same geography but is in much better shape. Haiti was a failed society long before the recent earthquake, and the book pre-dates it by several years so it wasn't a factor in his analysis.

But I will not be drawn into a debate with you about this. You're simply wrong, and no amount of evidence will ever convince you of it, because you're not well informed enough to distinguish between good evidence and good science, and the baying ignoramuses you cite.

 

[#juan]

Around Christmas I came down with a flu like illness that was really miserable for about a month. My doctor did a throat swab and confirmed that I had H1N1. I had received the H1N1 shot but I either already had the disease when I had the shot or I contracted the disease before the protection kicked in. I have since had the seasonal flu shot but there seems to be no guarantee that I won't get that either.

 

[Dexter Sinister]

Yes #juan, there are no guarantees. No immunization is completely effective, it's all probabilities because everybody's biochemistry is a little bit different., and there's no telling what would have happened to you if you hadn't had the shots. I had both mumps and whooping cough as a child, despite being immunized. The most alarming thing about H1N1 influenza is that the fatalities from it were not the usual very young, very old, and immunologically compromised, they were primarily healthy young adults that don't normally die from seasonal influenzas. Certainly there were some fatalities among people who had other health issues, but a disturbing number of them were perfectly healthy people.

 

[talloola]

following the flu viruses around each and every year, is not
an exact science, the researchers work year round, recording
and keeping track of all the viruses they can, and work
forward to manufacture the vaccine to combat them, the
viruses mutate to keep ahead of any interference, and fight
back to become the power over it's enemies.

I see nothing here but the desire to keep the masses healthy
and free of these flus, as best they can.

There is really nothing complex about it, or underhanded
in any way, but it is always a bit of a guessing game mixed
with science, and they do a good job of protecting us.

We, who receive the vaccine, the majority, also can protect
those who don't choose to receive it, by keeping the flu
numbers low.

No one said there would be a pandemic, but the danger was
always there, and a possibility, it pleases me to see how
well they did to help us, and they will have to continue
doing it year after year.

 

[JLM]

Yes #juan, there are no guarantees. No immunization is completely effective, it's all probabilities because everybody's biochemistry is a little bit different., and there's no telling what would have happened to you if you hadn't had the shots. I had both mumps and whooping cough as a child, despite being immunized. The most alarming thing about H1N1 influenza is that the fatalities from it were not the usual very young, very old, and immunologically compromised, they were primarily healthy young adults that don't normally die from seasonal influenzas. Certainly there were some fatalities among people who had other health issues, but a disturbing number of them were perfectly healthy people.

I think you've pretty well hit the nail on the head- what #Juan was suffering from was "there are no guarantees in life syndrome". Most if not all the people myself included that I know who had the shot suffered no really adverse reactions. I was under the impression that about 90% of those who died with the disease DID have other health issues and that probably only 3 or 4 cases across the country didn't. Once in a blue moon you hear of a young athlete dropping dead on the field of a sudden heart attack, despite the fact he seemed perfectly normal. It's called "sh*t happens". Anyway I hope #Juan has seen the last of his problems.

 

[#juan]

I think you've pretty well hit the nail on the head- what #Juan was suffering from was "there are no guarantees in life syndrome". Most if not all the people myself included that I know who had the shot suffered no really adverse reactions. I was under the impression that about 90% of those who died with the disease DID have other health issues and that probably only 3 or 4 cases across the country didn't. Once in a blue moon you hear of a young athlete dropping dead on the field of a sudden heart attack, despite the fact he seemed perfectly normal. It's called "sh*t happens". Anyway I hope #Juan has seen the last of his problems.

What I was suffering from was H1N1. I had an H1N1 vaccination but it wasn't the live virus type vaccine so I didn't get the disease from the shot. In any case my biggest problem was a bacterial lung infection that the doctor treated with heavy doses of antibiotics and cortizone.
I don't know where the bacterial infection came from.

 

[darkbeaver]

Entirely predictable response that just shows how little you really understand and the poor quality of the web sites you use to inform yourself. There's nothing I can tell you that'll make any difference to you, you've turned paranoia and misunderstanding into a philosophy of life, but I can assure you that an H1N1 pandemic was a legitimate concern and global warming is real, not a hoax. And I suggest you read Jared Diamond's book Collapse, it will show you how societies that fail to perceive a crisis, or perceive it but fail to respond appropriately, self-destruct. Haiti is the most obvious current example, he discusses it at some length and compares it interestingly with the Dominican Republic, which shares the same geography but is in much better shape. Haiti was a failed society long before the recent earthquake, and the book pre-dates it by several years so it wasn't a factor in his analysis.

But I will not be drawn into a debate with you about this. You're simply wrong, and no amount of evidence will ever convince you of it, because you're not well informed enough to distinguish between good evidence and good science, and the baying ignoramuses you cite.

Diamond's book is commercial junk Dexter, you could have written it. I rank it right down there with Bishop Dawkins rubbish. They should both do the Ohpra Windbag show. As I remember Diamond never does get arround to explaining why or where the trees of Hati had to go. Have you had your rabies and distemper shots yet?
You're not well enough programmed to debate Stretch. IMO

DB Eaver WCSG world class science guy

 

[darkbeaver]

What I was suffering from was H1N1. I had an H1N1 vaccination but it wasn't the live virus type vaccine so I didn't get the disease from the shot. In any case my biggest problem was a bacterial lung infection that the doctor treated with heavy doses of antibiotics and cortizone.

There was many reports of the same symptoms in Europe mostly Poland during the H1N1 vaccination plan.

 

[darkbeaver]

WHO scientist demands investigations at national level into swine flu scam

WHO'S FUKUDA GRILLED AT COUNCIL OF EUROPE HEARING: START OF SUBSTANTIAL INVESTIGATION INTO THE SWINE FLU SCAM

CANADIAN SWINE FLU VACCINE REACTION REPORTING PAGE LOGS DEATHS, STROKES, PARALYSIS

 

[#juan]

DB in your first link it is suggested that Swine flu is not a serious illness. Over the years I have experienced a fair number of seasonal flu bugs. Some were mild and some were really ugly but I can tell you that H1N1 is the worst case of flu I've ever had. My son and his wife, and their two young children all came down with the damn thing. The youngest child was on oxygen for a week and a half. A few of their neighbors were also down with it. I wouldn't wish that bug on anyone.

 

[Liberalman]

if the vacine doesn't kill you then it will save your life

 

[darkbeaver]

DB in your first link it is suggested that Swine flu is not a serious illness. Over the years I have experienced a fair number of seasonal flu bugs. Some were mild and some were really ugly but I can tell you that H1N1 is the worst case of flu I've ever had. My son and his wife, and their two young children all came down with the damn thing. The youngest child was on oxygen for a week and a half. A few of their neighbors were also down with it. I wouldn't wish that bug on anyone.

I'm not arguing at all that you and many others weren't very sick, however the statistics gathered globally indicates that the HINI was not as severe as the typical seasonal flu. Since you had the vaccine it must be considered as contributory in your case, especially since it can't be eliminated in any review of your illness. You have no access to any reputable study whatever about the efficacy of any vaccine including the H1N1 since none of the major announced studies particular to H1N1 are due to be completed before March of this year I believe.

 

[#juan]

DB the worst part of H1N1 appears to be the bacterial lung infection that seems to travel with H1N1. I don't know if H1N1 makes a person more susceptible to this kind of infection or what but the two seem to go hand in hand.

 

[darkbeaver]

That lung infection seems to be troubling many people in my community as well. I haven't heard or read anything about its origin. Hemmoragic fever was reported in Europe during the vaccination program in addition to many reports of chem trails in association with the outbreaks. I don't know what to make of it myself but I'm very cautious about any official advice, information or programs remotely connected to big pharma and government since I consider their relationships very soiled by bribery and conspiracy. I am certainly not alone in that regard as many inquires have been opened and or announced, even at very high levels and aimed at the worlds governing health body, the WHO, which by many accounts seems to have been entirely co-opted by big pharmasuetical lobbys. There is no crime the ruling class will not or has not perpetrated on the worlds perceived lesser classes.