Fentanyl

[spaminator]

Baby brought back to life twice after fentanyl exposure | World | News | Toronto

 

[Ludlow]

You are welcome, pete though the number of dead has risen to 13 for today alone and the night is not over.

Thirteen people die of overdoses over one day in B.C. as fentanyl fuels opioid crisis - The Globe and Mail



Or begin to take something even more potent which is what keeps me away from prescribed pain killers - mind you I've been lucky so far with only minor osteoarthritis pain which I have been able to manage with a natural medication based on an extract from the sunflower plant. I have also found that the mind can play a great part in managing pain.

I wish there was an alternative for me. I think if they can deal with the cause of the pain, like a nerve block or something like that, it would be preferable to the opioids.

 

[Machjo]

Probably and theyre either idiots who dont have a clue or ****bags who deal the stuff.

There is a market for it like im sure there is a market for human trafficking but people who support those markets tend to be people you want locked up.

They're the ones who always complain about the 'nanny state.' They consider the very existence of government to be a nannny state.

I wish there was an alternative for me. I think if they can deal with the cause of the pain, like a nerve block or something like that, it would be preferable to the opioids.

Have you tried acupuncture?

 

[Ludlow]

They're the ones who always complain about the 'nanny state.' They consider the very existence of government to be a nannny state.



Have you tried acupuncture?

Insurance doesn't cover that procedure.

 

[Machjo]

So insurance won't pay for acupuncture, but will pay for opiods. Oh yeah, how's that for a well-thought-out policy?

 

[Ludlow]

So insurance won't pay for acupuncture, but will pay for opiods. Oh yeah, how's that for a well-thought-out policy?

Yeah. What are ya gonna do.

 

[Machjo]

Yeah. What are ya gonna do.

If the patient can't pay out of pocket for the acupuncture, then there's an incentive to get his insurance to pay for the opiod, right?

 

[Ludlow]

If the patient can't pay out of pocket for the acupuncture, then there's an incentive to get his insurance to pay for the opiod, right?

Insurance covers prescriptions

 

[Machjo]

But can acupuncture be prescribed?

 

[Ludlow]

But can acupuncture be prescribed?

My cousin had acupuncture for sciatica. . He payed out of pocket. Insurance would not cover it. He did say it worked.

 

[Machjo]

Stupid insurance companies. If it's prescribed by a competent physician, then insurance should cover it.

 

[Ludlow]

It was decided by the ER doctor that I needed a certain blood thinner. They first had to get approval from the insurance carrier before it could be prescribed. That's how it works.

 

[Machjo]

It was decided by the ER doctor that I needed a certain blood thinner. They first had to get approval from the insurance carrier before it could be prescribed. That's how it works.

Oh wow. Whatever happened to the physician's independence from the insurance company?! Scary, actually.

 

[Ludlow]

Oh wow. Whatever happened to the physician's independence from the insurance company?! Scary, actually.

Very expensive medicine

 

[DaSleeper]

But can acupuncture be prescribed?

In Ontario it is when it is given by the hospital therapist, but they are rarely as good as an independent professional acupuncturist.....

 

[petros]

Covered in SK too and you can see who you choose.

 

[DaSleeper]

Provincial health insurance must be different across the country....

 

[petros]

Very different.

 

[DaSleeper]

Very different.

You are right....I just looked it up....any service that your province doesn't cover when you travel, you have to pay out of pocket....

 

[petros]

Thats travelling. Everyday ordinary services vary drastically.

In SK I didnt pay for epidurals. Here in BC they cost me $185.