Be glib then. That solves everything. :roll: BTW I wouldn't use a rifle to shoot at a thief anyway. I'd use a shotgun, and they are useless for hitting anything through a long stretch of fairly dense wooded areas.
Farmer Shoots at Thief
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To split that hair even further the writer assumed this guy packs his own shells if salt was brought up.
L Gilbert just the sound of a shotgun will put a rapid end to someone trying to steeal something on your property. There is no need to aim it anyone to get that effect. Aiming had one purpose and one purpose only. To fataly wound.
Um "double ought" buck it actually 0.18" in diameter. There is "triple ought" ().19" in diameter), T, double T, F, and Double F (0.23" in diameter).
Never, ever fire warning shots.
I used to train guards in armed self-defence.......and the proper ideology is this: there is only one reason to shoot, and that is to stop the actions of your assailant. Warning shots are simply not done.
1. Warning shots are usually unaimed, and are therefore a danger to any innocent bystander in the area.
2. A warning shot lowers the number of rounds you have immediately available by one.......which you might need if things gert really nasty.
3. In the dark, with a shotgun, a warning shot deafens and blinds you, making you less capable of dealing with the real threats....
Any shots fired should be directed centre mass.
Yep. The guy scoots at the sound of my slide. Then he waits till I go to the neighbors for coffee and buggers off with stuff, maybe even one of my dogs.
If I aim to git the creep it isn't to fatally wound. I want the creep to suffer and have something to think about, I will hit the creep and I doubt the silly idiot would be back to get another round of salt in his backside.
Secure everything? Yep. Going to spend $20,000 to turn my barn into fort knox so the thief who doesn't know I have stuff in there to steal won't be able to break in and steal the stuff. Brilliant! People steal cattle. How do you secure a couple hundred head of cattle from being absconded with and yet leave them enough freedom to graze?
Dogs who bite people get put down around here. 2 weeks in confinement. lmao Dogs are ok if the perps are afraid of them. Unless you have a pack of 3 or more dogs, one single person is more than a match for most mutts, especially if armed with a knife or a hefty stick.
Dogs who bite people get put down around here. 2 weeks in confinement. lmao Dogs are ok if the perps are afraid of them. Unless you have a pack of 3 or more dogs, one single person is more than a match for most mutts, especially if armed with a knife or a hefty stick.
It's safe to say you don't know anything about journalism and the role of an editor.
No ... it's safe to say buckshot 'cus Granny Clampett did. It's the same thing as calling a snowmobile a Ski-doo. Don't look for issues where there may be none.
I doubt that. A great number of farmers are as good as snipers. Ever got a fox in full flight at three hundred feet? I believe the shot was to slow him down.
Petros....I understand where you're coming from (in North Central),
but you & I have the advantage of many sets of eyes in a small
geographical area...even if many of them might want to steal your
flower pot or block heater cord...others would be watching or might
notice the noise made when someone is pealing the bars off your
windows or smashing off your padlocks. A steering wheel club will
not stop a thief that wants your car, but it'll slow him down and might
force him to make noise that'll attract attention, and that's a deterrent
if the geography permits people to hear and see the theft taking place.
Les and many others simply do not have that advantage. With upwards
of an hour or more for an RCMP response time, a padlock takes a few
minutes out of a thief's time, and not much more of a deterrent than that.
Again, I'm not condoning what Brian Knight did, but I sure do understand
why he did what he did.
I've had several cars broken into, and two different garages at two different
places in the core broken into twice...each, and my home broken into once
though that one ended as well as I could have hoped for. I lost much more
than a flower pot & a block heater cord every time except for the B&E on
my house. Home owners insurance is great if your house burns down, but
not for repeated claims & deductibles & increased premiums....it's just not
worth claiming a bicycle one time and a BBQ another and then a couple of
hundred bucks worth of tools in four more separate garage break ins...I'm
saving my claims for a neighbours tree falling through my home or something
along those lines.
Idiotic comment. My barn is big. It is skinned with 1" lumber nailed from the outside. Lumber isn't cheap, even in a heavily wooded region (thanks to unions and gov'ts). Besides, thieves know about padlocks and that boltcutters and cutting equipment dispenses easily with them.
That is the first I ever heard of this. I guess you learn something new every day.
I cannot imagine what the elderly fellow was going through. Knowing that it was only a matter of time before the punks victimized you again. After this, I would hope the punks learned that he was not going to be a victim any longer.
I haven't read any further into this thread yet, but if it is not posted in here could you either post the story or put a link to it Colpy?
Beisdes that, I think it's an idiotic comment that I put window bars and padlocks on my wife's and my trucks.
Is this an election year for you? I know ours is up in a couple of weeks or so. All that Stelmach has to say is bull. He wants more police on the streets. Ha! Doesn't everyone even though they are the most mocked subject on these forums. Detachment Commanders go to meetings at City Hall in their cities and they present their reasons for more members to be added to their particular city. The cities pay the lion's share for policing - not the government. If they need 6 officers they will probably ask for 8 and the city will agree to 2. Take a look at the statistics on how many members have been killed in rural areas over the past 5 or so years and you might understand why they take so long to attend. If you have a 2 - 3 man detachment, one might be on holidays and one might be on days off so in essence, you have a one man detachment. (S)He doesn't have any backup and could be arriving to anything.
They can be foolish enough to gather all the money they want for his defence but it won't matter and it's highly un-likely his insurance is going to pay him anything on his ATV since he's the one who rammed it. Probably the same for the truck he rammed it with. As Petros said - this guy's plan was to kill. Playing Sheriff with a posse. I guess he should have saddled a horse. I realize that people living in rural areas feel they should have the right to protect their property but you have to realize that laws are laws. You have made the choice to live out in an area that is not policed well. Even areas that are policed well so to speak are short on staff so response time is not what it should be. You have all read that the RCMP alone wants to hire another 2000 members. Wonder how many the City police want to hire!
Having just read the Sussex story, I see that there is one major difference. The man in Sussex did not know that he was shooting at anyone, while the farmer knew that he was shooting at a person. That in itself may result in a different verdict towards him.
Yes but he didn't get in a vehicle and chase after them, after calling his neighbours for help plus he has a dis-abled wife in the house to protect as well. He didn't leave his house to kill someone, he went out to shoot out the tires and killed someone in the process.
Living in this rural area for some is NOT a choice. For our own sanity we moved here. Perhaps you can handle the foul air, constant crime, food from plastic, noise, etc. but not everyone is built like you. Just where do you think most food comes from? Cities? Someone has to grow it and do that in high quantity. You want cranberry juice? Try growing those in a city. Spuds? Fish?
The Sussex guy thought the vehicle was beetling down the road by itself and there was no-one in it? Awesome