Falklands defence review after military deal between Russia and Argentina

[Colpy]

Argentina could try to retake it. If they get cozy enough with the Russians and the Russians support them I think Blackie and his buddies may be SOL

The SOL ones will be the unfortunate Argentinian soldiers that wind up burned, blown to bits, and shot full of holes.

This is not 1982, when the Royal Marines had a handful men on the Island

You should actually read a bit before you start trolling.

You are less apt to make a fool of yourself that way.

Military of the Falkland Islands - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Cannuck]

Don't be so silly Colpy. I think we all know what military presence the Brittish have on the Falklands. Thanks for your input though, irrelevant as it may be.

 

[MHz]

Damn, I guess the West will have to defend from a non invasion.

F*ck the Dollar: Russia Swaps SU-24’s for Beef / Wheat w/ Argentina | InvestmentWatch

 

[damngrumpy]

Britain will protect its territory and will keep an eye on what is needed. They were
caught napping once but not again. What is more important is the loss of influence
being experienced by America. The Russians are successful only because of the
economic exploitation of the past. South America is emerging from the long slow
old colonial feeling and is becoming a main player on the world stage.
No longer will Chile tolerate their government being overthrown like it was in the
1970's. There have been other problems is Peru and elsewhere over the last century.
If America is not careful they will lose their influence completely. This is not good for
North America and the Western world.

 

[EagleSmack]

Good deal for the Russians. Selling their Cold War Clunkers to the Argies. Old beat up warplanes for food. lol.

 

[Colpy]

So it is a rigged vote when it goes against the UK but totally above board when it supports the UK. Not a surprise really, lets go back to how advanced the Falklands are thanks to being owned by the UK.

Falkland Islands (Islas Malvinas) | CIA World Factbook - The best country factbook available online

Budget: revenues: $66.2 million
expenditures: $67.9 million (FY98/99 est.)

What a crock, no matter how much they did for themselves the UK would make them debtors

That would be because the UK is a stable, respected nation that has been a democracy for about 200 years, and is largely responsible for establishing freedom around the globe.

Pull your head out of your a$$.

Don't be so silly Colpy. I think we all know what military presence the Brittish have on the Falklands. Thanks for your input though, irrelevant as it may be.

You are, as always, have NO idea what you are talking about.

The UK had practically nothing on the Islands in 1982, Less than 100 Royal Marines, and 60 poorly trained locals that played no part in the fight. In the defense of St. George's, the Marines damaged a Argie military vessel (with a LAW..lol). At Government House, the Marines killed several Argies before being ordered to surrender by the Governor. They had only FN FAL rifles and one GPMG, but shot up the unfortunate Argies quite properly.

The current force could handle an Argentinian force many times its size..........you are considering an inexperienced, half trained Argentinian force against a military that is among the very best in the world, and that has seen much combat.

It would be a blood bath, with dead Argies piled up all over the place.

 

[Cannuck]

You are, as always, have NO idea what you are talking about.

You're being silly yet again. Do you think regurgitating history brings anything to this discussion?

 

[Colpy]

You're being silly yet again. Do you think regurgitating history brings anything to this discussion?

"Regurgitating history" is extremely important in any discussion of potential military conflict. It speaks to the skill, the determination, the inspiration, the leadership, and the quality of the forces involved and the people of the nations involved.

Anyone but an idiot knows that.

 

[Cannuck]

"Regurgitating history" is extremely important in any discussion of potential military conflict. It speaks to the skill, the determination, the inspiration, the leadership, and the quality of the forces involved and the people of the nations involved.

Anyone but an idiot knows that.

Don't be silly.

 

[taxslave]

Crimea Referendum: Final Results Show 97 Percent Of Voters In Crimea Support Joining Russia

MOSCOW (AP) — Final results of the referendum in Crimea show that 97 percent of voters have supported leaving Ukraine to join Russia, the head of the referendum election commission said Monday.
Mikhail Malyshev told a televised news conference that the final tally from Sunday's vote was 96.8 percent in favor of splitting from Ukraine. He also said that the commission has not registered a single complaint about the vote.
The referendum was widely condemned by Western leaders who were planning to discuss economic sanctions to punish Russia on Monday. Ukraine's new government in Kiev called the referendum a "circus" directed at gunpoint by Moscow.

But Valery Ryazantsev, head of Russia's observer mission in Crimea and a lawmaker from the upper house of the Russian parliament, said Monday that the results are beyond dispute. He told the Interfax news agency that there are "absolutely no reasons to consider the vote results illegitimate."


Russia or Argentina don't need the Falklands but what they should do with the bombers is map the ocean to search for natural resources and make sure international boundaries exist. Something the UK is slack at getting done and even then their pencils us usually pretty drunk. Brazil has huge fields offshore, Argentina shouldn't be any different.


Labor force: 1,724 (est.) (1996)



Child labor or somebody not vote?

At least 97% of the people Russia permitted to vote are in favor of separating.

 

[MHz]

That would be because the UK is a stable, respected nation that has been a democracy for about 200 years, and is largely responsible for establishing freedom around the globe.

Pull your head out of your a$$.

They also litter the globe with machines of war in a rather haphazard sort of way, if somebody buys from anybody but you it suddenly becomes a big conspiracy while the ones you mention can park missiles 20 miles from your border in a totally peaceful move as it is there in case Iceland goes rouge. That about sum it up? What if they retrofitted them into private jets, how long to get to Homg kong in one of those with fuel economy not so important? That suit your democratic jowls? The new canal is said to have an airport that would handle them and China is also said to be building airports and bullet trains. Just how do you see Canada wrestling their way into that while condemning every move Russia makes. They should be buying the Arrow 4 from Canada, oh wait, they are supposed to lose the war, almost forgot that part. That being the case the older stuff being sold off to them (and Iraq) is making room for the new and in the budget it had advancements in software as being higher on the list than a new bomber that can go somewhat slower that any air defense system can react to. The foundries would be pumping out products that Russian companies will produce so profits stay in-house rather than seeing them go into the western banks which has a very poor return on investment unless your are a shareholder in some stocks listed on Wall St. They don't like it when nations opt out of that sort of control. We, that being us, the red headed step-child whose first duty is to be cannon fodder in conflicts they have no stake in.

 

[Colpy]

Don't be silly.

Thanks for playing, but the fact that your replies indicate an IQ roughly on par with asphalt, I think it would be much the better part to withdraw from the debate.

Arguing with asphalt is not really productive.

 

[MHz]

At least 97% of the people Russia permitted to vote are in favor of separating.

You know why Canada never held a referendum on the Provinces joining to become one country after the Queen made us Sovereign Nations. I love the way details matter a lot at times and then who cares it's only a big detail' at other times, yet insanity is a term not used to summarize the condition. You people are so strange, no wonder it takes 95% working full time just to feed yourself, and them most have blown up like balloons. Add to the insanity is the confusion you have when people back away from membership. The Vatican requires 2/3 vote before it is a fair vote, they are our oldest and most cherished organization of all time. Pretty hard to take any of them very serious after a revelation like that, don't get me wrong there is an agenda, it is just different from the one they are promoting and you can't get it that wrong without putting in some real effort.

Thanks for playing, but the fact that your replies indicate an IQ roughly on par with asphalt, I think it would be much the better part to withdraw from the debate.

Arguing with asphalt is not really productive.

You want the version that is too big for the driveway.

 

[Cannuck]

....but the fact that your replies indicate an IQ roughly on par with asphalt....

I'm just trying to bring the discussion down to your level.

 

[DaSleeper]

I'm just trying to bring the discussion down to your level.

Don't be silly putz

 

[Cannuck]

Don't be silly putz

Don't be silly Troll

 

[Blackleaf]

The British are bank slaves and will lay down their lives in heaps where ever the bank and the peadophile parliament directs them.

Of course. Yeah.

They would have little trouble taking it again.

Not when there's a British military presence on the islands, they won't. In fact, they won't even dare to try taking the islands this time. They underestimated the British back in 1982 so I hope they've learnt a few lessons since then.

With a little help from the Russians, they might even think they could hold it.

What the **** has the situation in the Falklands got to do with the Russkies? They've got their own problems back home, both political and economic, and they should get them sorted out first before poking their noses in a situation on the other side of the world that has absolutely nothing at all to do with them.

I doubt the Brits would want to go up against a Russian backed Argentina

If Argentina and Russia dared to try and invade the Falkland Islands then Britain will fight both Argentina and Russia. There's no two ways about it. Britain will protect her citizens and her territory no matter what.

We all know who has a history of biting off more than they can chew

Well it's certainly not the British. If Britain went to war with Argentina and Russia there's no way the Canadians would join in.

 

[Colpy]

I do not get the Russian aspect.

So the Russkies sell Argentina a few old warplanes.....that does not mean they will be storming the beaches of the Falklands with the Argentinian Marines.......

Indeed, any attack by Russia on British territory would be an attack on a NATO country.

World War III anyone??

 

[Blackleaf]

Indeed, any attack by Russia on British territory would be an attack on a NATO country.

That's a good point. An attack on one NATO country is deemed to be an attack on the whole of NATO.

Argentina is just scrabbling around for allies over the Falklands issue, because it doesn't have many at the moment.

 

[EagleSmack]

I do not get the Russian aspect.

So the Russkies sell Argentina a few old warplanes.....that does not mean they will be storming the beaches of the Falklands with the Argentinian Marines.......

Indeed, any attack by Russia on British territory would be an attack on a NATO country.

World War III anyone??

The Argies had better planes the first time around than these SU-24s.

The Russians are trading Su-24s... for beef and wheat.... from Argentina? That does not say much for Russia these days.