Quite a few folks have written about Sanata Claus, too. So he must be real, I guess.
Documentary makers claim tomb of Jesus found
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Well, lemme see: seems to me that there's an ongoing story written by several different writers right here in CC. I even added a line or two to it. Who's to say the Bible isn't the same?Maple said:
I can accept that, if he did actually exist.
Don't bother showing us this "proof". :roll:
I don't recall it ever saying they weren't married. Given Hebrew Culture, NOT being married would warrant a special notice, being married would be a given assumption.
Well, now it's getting more interesting. I see in the news threads that both CBC and CTV News are reporting that Jesus' bones have been found. The site was discovered in 1980, and there were bones in these ossuaries at the time, which were reburied elsewhere. DNA analysis indicates the remains in the boxes containing Jesus and Mary were not maternally related, which would usually indicate they were probably married. That information wasn't in the original article marygaspe posted at the top.
But I'm still thinking, "so what?" We have a coincidence of names, that's all, and some people are leaping to unjustified conclusions. Without a documented trail that incontrovertibly records the bloodline into the present so the DNA can be compared to known descendants of Jesus and Mary, there's no way to prove this is THE Jesus and Mary. No such trail exists, The DaVinci Code notwithstanding. Suggestive and interesting it certainly is, but proof? Nope. And it doesn't really matter, this isn't going to produce any crisis of the faith, except possibly among the less committed who probably would have fallen by the wayside eventually anyway. Believing Christians are not going to be deflected by such circumstantial evidence.
But I'm still thinking, "so what?" We have a coincidence of names, that's all, and some people are leaping to unjustified conclusions. Without a documented trail that incontrovertibly records the bloodline into the present so the DNA can be compared to known descendants of Jesus and Mary, there's no way to prove this is THE Jesus and Mary. No such trail exists, The DaVinci Code notwithstanding. Suggestive and interesting it certainly is, but proof? Nope. And it doesn't really matter, this isn't going to produce any crisis of the faith, except possibly among the less committed who probably would have fallen by the wayside eventually anyway. Believing Christians are not going to be deflected by such circumstantial evidence.
I'm inclined to agree with you. I doubt very much this will have any impact on the various christian churches in the world, except perhaps to have them start condemning these people
There's a great deal of evidence that Jesus was an actual person, most of which I'm sure you'd not accept
I would.:wave:
Statisticians did the number sand it's a very compelling result. The science seems to be sound.:wave:
I know it's true, I'v been thinking a lot about god and Jesus lately for some reason, I think must be devine intervention. I was very seriously considering a church career, seeing as how it's relativly easy money. That the bottom should fall out of the field as I was about to embrace the lord is not in the lest suprising to me. I'm a believer. amen:laughing7::laughing7::wave:
There are many referances in the bible which point to his being married, his own wedding is described. Many other books of the time from the area speak of this. Being jewish and of an age he would have been compelled to marry, and when you marry and wait a while bingo.:wave:
Good investigative thinking there.!
Another would be if we had a case of someone placing a crucifix image on a early Christian object and try to pass that off as genuine when we know the symbol for early Christians was the fish. Another is that the old masters painted Jesus with the nails in the palm of the hands, but the Romans used the wrist because the palm does not have the bone and tissue structure to hold up the body. (To it's credit, I think the shroud showed it to be the wrist, I could be wrong here.)
Pretty hairy business being an antiquity faker. It's got to be a very embarrassing job at times, maybe even risky if your selling to the mob.
AndyF
Not really. According to the CTV report, one supposed expert calculated the odds of this being an insignificant coincidence as 1 in 600, another put it at 1 in 42 million. Hardly compelling. If that tells you anything, it should tell you that we don't have the data to make that calculation with any degree of accuracy, consistency, or confidence. We'd need census data up to modern standards of accuracy, with everybody's name and parentage recorded, and we don't have that. Such probability calculations are futile speculation.
There seems to be no convincing proof, just more speculation. I seriously doubt the accuracy of this report.
did any one look at the Jewish rituals of that time. Marriage was two fold back then. First part was the mating. Three months later if the woman was pregnant the ceremony was completed. One of the rituals of the second part of the wedding was the wife anointed the mans feet with her hair. Meaning that she was three months pregnant.
I think this is a hoax set up. In that when they do find another one everyone will say "not again"making the will to believe the find less likely.
When they do prove that Jesus was just a man and nothing else there's still his teaching, the true teachings. Take away the flashy part of this man and you still have something to respect.
I would rather respect a real man for his actions than a "half god" that could do anything.
He was a revolutionary, and what he was intending to do was no wonder why he was persecuted by his own....my 2 cents
I think this is a hoax set up. In that when they do find another one everyone will say "not again"making the will to believe the find less likely.
When they do prove that Jesus was just a man and nothing else there's still his teaching, the true teachings. Take away the flashy part of this man and you still have something to respect.
I would rather respect a real man for his actions than a "half god" that could do anything.
He was a revolutionary, and what he was intending to do was no wonder why he was persecuted by his own....my 2 cents