Dad wants kids kept from dominatrix mom

[karrie]

Her dad gave me the creeps, it was just as well. My mother did say her mother tried to sell her some plastic items, maybe they had a spat during that discussion. My mother is pretty open minded, she knew about the easyboy, but she didn't know about the photos - so who knows. I should ask her about it. Her step-sibblings wanted nothing to do with him either.

Sounds like your mom is a smart lady.

One of the big concerns is that leaving sex paraphenalia out and about for children to find is indicative of an attempt to normalize it. It's a big red flag for future abuse. What's the matter with modeling those things for your friend's dad hey? They're sitting out for everyone to see, surely there mustn't be anything shameful about them?

 

[Zzarchov]

You've totally lost me here. You mean that adults should only ever behave or be employed in ways that are acceptable in front of children? Do you really see no line that child welfare needs to draw between bedroom play and family play?

Thats not what im talking about at all, im not sure where you got that from...

The closest im coming to that statement is deciding who draws lines. In that case I don't think Child Welfare should be the one to draw lines about what is "hurting development" unless very specific rules are laid out for whats an "Acceptable adult" that children should be allowed to develop into.

What is innappropriate behaviour? To a huge chunk of the world (and Canadas) population, taking a photo of your kid having a kiss at junior prom is obscene and considered child porn. (seriously, look up the views on Kissing in Indian culture)

If there are to be lines drawn, then draw the lines, explain why and make it all open and not a bunch of "in the air" bullshoi.

You can't give people a badge and a gun (worse the ability to steal children) and then not actualy codify the reasons why and how they can take peoples kids in very concrete ways. This is why our Child Protection services are so corrupt.

Lines obviously need to be drawn, but who draws them, where and why. And why aren't they actually drawn?

 

[karrie]

This is why our Child Protection services are so corrupt.

Lines obviously need to be drawn, but who draws them, where and why. And why aren't they actually drawn?

Last I've heard, child welfare is only an intermediary much like police officers. While officers can attempt to enforce the law as they understand it, it's up to the courts to interpret and apply the guidelines and laws, and it's for the courts to draw the lines you discuss, NOT social workers. Child welfare can't actually 'steal' a child. Courts hold the ultimate say.

 

[Risus]

Why the hell is this even making the news???

The mother is wacko, keep the kid from her, its not rocket science...

 

[Zzarchov]

Last I've heard, child welfare is only an intermediary much like police officers. While officers can attempt to enforce the law as they understand it, it's up to the courts to interpret and apply the guidelines and laws, and it's for the courts to draw the lines you discuss, NOT social workers. Child welfare can't actually 'steal' a child. Courts hold the ultimate say.

Courts are slow, in the mean time you've got no kid. Courts make all kinds of laws, but unless police enforce them, and enforce them as intended, then its pointless.

For instance take Canadian prostitution laws. In some cities cops look the other way, regardless of the breach of laws (Even flagrant ones with ads) in other towns even if prostitutes obey the laws completely, police arrest them, process them, publish the names of the women and the johns, then release them with no charges pressed (because no laws were broken) but a destruction of privacy.

The courts are only powerful if enforced.