Connacher oilsands project resumes
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Yeah the electric bus came long before the deisel bus. Where have you been?
I am not trying to apologize for big oil.
I simply disagree with some of the lame old green-peace party line and erroneous spin that gets posted here.
I personally do not take on any contracts in heavy oil and have chosen to stay out of that type of work for close to 25 years now but I somewhat understand the processes involved and have a few old friends in the game.
And yes Kearl Lake is does indeed appear to be a large strip mine that I presume will entail huge amounts of overburden removal as well as large settling and tailings ponds as well as massive cleanup requirements.
And perhaps all new strip mines should be put on hold until we clean up the old ones.
However it doesn't change the fact that Imperial Oil's SAGD and Huff and Puff type production in Cold Lake is large scale and does not entail strip mines.
Nor does it change the fact that Connacher Oil the subject of this thread is another SAGD operation and not a strip mine.
Nor does it change the fact that the vast majority of future heavy oil projects planned do not entail strip mines.
But of course you know that.
Ultimately if you are a strong environmentalist you cannot support any large scale industrial development.
I understand that position but I tend to be more of a realist.
I believe people need jobs
Should all logging in BC be shut down, all the mills closed?
Should all hard rock mining in northern Ontario stopped?
Would the southern coast of British Columbia be more pristine if the City of Vancouver didn't exist?
You say the proposal for the Kearl Lakes tailing ponds that you are working on make you gag.
Why do you work on developments you are morally opposed to?
Isn't that a little hypocritical?
Trex
So who is behind it and why? You've been asked this so anytime you are ready bring your "damnning evidence" to the table I'd love to review it.
And yeah it has indeed been you who has been making these claims.
So why are the oil companies trying to help reduce consumption and consumption methodologies?
Once we get a unanimous opinion on global warming, then we can figure out how to proceed.
"Right... some people actually still believe that we live on a disc and not a globe..."
Hey, that works well for some people- if you never travel more than a mile or two from home, then the part of the earth you are dealing with is basically flat. It's just when we start getting technical that all sorts of problems arise.
Hey, that works well for some people- if you never travel more than a mile or two from home, then the part of the earth you are dealing with is basically flat. It's just when we start getting technical that all sorts of problems arise.
We didn't need yet another haughty, sarcastic tirade.
I won't care about any newer oil sands developements until the existing mess is cleaned up. The tailing ponds that you don't care about are leaching poison into the Athabaska river. You say they are a nightmare but that we should forget about them in favour of the new, wonderful systems that are as yet untried. If the tar sand developement was just outside Calgary or Edmonton, the tailing ponds would have been cleaned up years ago if either city would allow the smelly mess in the first place. What do multinational oil companies care about somebody else's ecology? Obviously not much.
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Well petros, it seems as if you've been running around without wearing your hockey helmet again.
So, who's behind the cooling trend?... That'd be good ole Mother Nature.
The damning evidence?.. Well, that'd be graphs (such as the one I recently responded to) that clearly showed that the trend was cooling.
As far as your bizarre comment about the oil companies trying to reduce consumption.. I have no idea what you're talking about.. Chances are that you have no idea as well.
So there we go, alright.. Your ridiculous questions are answered (again).
Works well for some...sure, so does belief in other nonsense. It doesn't work well for delaying any action until 100% consensus is reached...
LOL... Petros is from old Greek meaning rock or stone, and petroleum products are named so because they are oils found ...in rock. So maybe 50% behind it, ignoring the silliness. :idea:
What is it with you and absolutes anyways?
Yup, you're both mistaken.
"What is it with you and absolutes anyways?"- One of my first rules of thumb is "there's an exception to every rule"- and that even applies to politicians. LOL
Nice try fart knocker.
So it has cooled to below the 1000 year mean or is still above the mean? Yes or no?
You still haven't answered the question of "who is steering the deception of etheogenic CO2 causing global warming and what is their end goal?"
You calim it is a lie so who is behind the lie?