“We know who the active denialists are – not the people who buy the lies, mind you, but the people who create the lies. Let’s start keeping track of them now, and when the famines come, let’s make them pay. Let’s let their houses burn. Let’s swap their safe land for submerged islands. Let’s force them to bear the cost of rising food prices,” writes Zwick, adding, “They broke the climate. Why should the rest of us have to pay for it?”
No where in there did I read that Zwick stated houses should be burned as in lets go out and torch that place. Let their houses burn has a bit of a different connotation than does - burn the houses down. He does state that this would happen when the 'famines come' - not the most urgent statement certainly not a hue and cry to light the fires. Nutty and slightly scary as his statements are, to quote him in such a manner is less than truthful.
That didn't long to prove skookumchuck's post referenced manipulative BS. Cool!
Well now, considering you are not a member of our local fire department, of which I am a member, you will not, unlike my friends and neighbors who do make up the department, be asked to fight the fire.......so it is a moot point.So when your house catches fire are we supposed to ask if you are a climate change denier before we drag the hoses out? What about if it spreads to your neighbour's house and he is a truther? Can we put your house fire out to save his?
Next thing you know we will have to ask your racial background before putting out a fire.
Go ahead. Help the corporations that having you beliieving you are helping yourself when in reality you are helping them. Who else has money to pull off a scam this big?
“They broke the climate. Why should the rest of us have to pay for it?”
I think this is the thing that bothers me the most about environmental zealots. They seem to be under the impression that by being loud, they are doing something. My friends who loudly and rudely preach about the environment, who lecture about the injuries caused by oil, who rant about global warming, and the like, live the same life I do. They have the same number of kids, the same size of house, the same electronic gadgets, the same cars. I compost like some of them do. Our whole family are avid upcyclers. Years of farming makes us conscientious about what goes into or onto the ground. I'm not a global warming denialist, but, I doubt that someone who is, has 'broken' the earth much worse than my friends who try to preach about it.
If you are here having your voice heard, and not living in a teepee somewhere making sure you're living a net zero life, then you have no right to hold yourself so eco-morally superior as to hope for the suffering of others.
The Soviet model. Mr and Mrs Shatkowski and their 4 kids are ready to move into your apartment with you from their house and farm they had to surrender in the rural area.The greenist people work and live downtown. They earn minimum wage, take
public transit and share a one room apartment with 10 other people.
The Soviet model. Mr and Mrs Shatkowski and their 4 kids are ready to move into your apartment with you from their house and farm they had to surrender in the rural area.
I think this is the thing that bothers me the most about environmental zealots. They seem to be under the impression that by being loud, they are doing something. My friends who loudly and rudely preach about the environment, who lecture about the injuries caused by oil, who rant about global warming, and the like, live the same life I do. They have the same number of kids, the same size of house, the same electronic gadgets, the same cars. I compost like some of them do. Our whole family are avid upcyclers. Years of farming makes us conscientious about what goes into or onto the ground. I'm not a global warming denialist, but, I doubt that someone who is, has 'broken' the earth much worse than my friends who try to preach about it.
If you are here having your voice heard, and not living in a teepee somewhere making sure you're living a net zero life, then you have no right to hold yourself so eco-morally superior as to hope for the suffering of others.
This is a common fallacy that's been identified with most people who question the policy and not necessarily the science.
Of course, it begins with the science.
But then it must enforced top down by both public and private institutions.
This isn't something the average citizen has any significant level of control over.