Canada slaps 276% Tariff on Foreign Drywall

[taxslave]

That is western Canada.

How do you figure that it only applies in Western Canada?

See #19. Taken from the link in the OP.

 

[petros]

From 2013....


CALEDONIA Another American company is closing a Canadian plant to preserve jobs in the United States.

Georgia-Pacific Inc. told the 60 employees of its Caledonia drywall plant Friday morning that the facility is being "idled" because the market for building materials is down and the company can meet all its needs from American factories...


Georgia-Pacific has previously "idled" operations in Nova Scotia, British Columbia and Alberta. A plant in Thorold continues to operate.

 

[TenPenny]

Note that the whole point is to protect the drywall manufacturers in Western Canada:


"The complainant alleges that the dumping has caused injury and is threatening to cause injury to the Western Canadian industry producing the like goods."


So, you allege that Trudeau is giving the finger to Western Canada by protecting the jobs in Western Canada as requested by the manufacturers in Western Canada?

 

[IdRatherBeSkiing]

Yes. Yes of course. Georgia Pacific bought Domtar then closed plants in BC and ON because of carbon taxes and energy costs.

Same thing is happening with cement. Canadians are losing jobs and production because of carbon taxes and energy costs.

So this is by design then. It is not the 276% tax that is screwing Fort MacMurray. It's the carbon taxes.

 

[Machjo]

The Canada Border Services Agency imposed the preliminary tariff last Tuesday on U.S. gypsum board imported into Canada for use in British Columbia, Alberta, Saskatchewan, Manitoba and the Yukon and Northwest Territories.

Oh wow. I missed that. Shocking really. I'd like to know how the hell out hat was decided.

 

[taxslave]

It would be interesting to know if the 276% tax equals the difference in manufacturing costs. ANd if so why?

 

[petros]

Note that the whole point is to protect the drywall manufacturers in Western Canada:


"The complainant alleges that the dumping has caused injury and is threatening to cause injury to the Western Canadian industry producing the like goods."


So, you allege that Trudeau is giving the finger to Western Canada by protecting the jobs in Western Canada as requested by the manufacturers in Western Canada?

Because of carbon taxes.

The same is happening with cement.

Canada’s cement industry is crumbling

 

[Machjo]

Note that the whole point is to protect the drywall manufacturers in Western Canada:


"The complainant alleges that the dumping has caused injury and is threatening to cause injury to the Western Canadian industry producing the like goods."


So, you allege that Trudeau is giving the finger to Western Canada by protecting the jobs in Western Canada as requested by the manufacturers in Western Canada?

So it's Western Canadian companies giving their consumers the finger.

 

[taxslave]

Note that the whole point is to protect the drywall manufacturers in Western Canada:


"The complainant alleges that the dumping has caused injury and is threatening to cause injury to the Western Canadian industry producing the like goods."


So, you allege that Trudeau is giving the finger to Western Canada by protecting the jobs in Western Canada as requested by the manufacturers in Western Canada?

Did you happen to notice the complaint was filed by a company in Eastern Canada, not one in Western Canada.

 

[EagleSmack]

French Canadians are the Dry-Wall Kings!

When I was in the trades in Boston all of the Dry Wall contractors were French Canadian. One of the younger ones who actually spoke English told me they get up at about 2:00AM and drive down from "Northern New Hampshire", work 10 hours, and leave work early on Friday.

 

[Machjo]

Canada should have a law that allows a municipality to declare itself a Free Economic Zone. Within that municipality, no tariffs, no subsidies, basic taxes, no frills or gimmicks (e.g. CBC funding).

 

[Danbones]

Then it would slowly come back, no?

And remember, to subsidize drywall, the US goverents must tax everyone else or borrow. If it taxes everyone else, then that benefits every other Canadian industry.

If it borrows, then it benefits Canada's banking industry. We buy them out.



But why drywall specifically?

no jobs no money
then all your logic sort of collapses
no?

 

[petros]

Canada should have a law that allows a municipality to declare itself a Free Economic Zone. Within that municipality, no tariffs, no subsidies, basic taxes, no frills or gimmicks (e.g. CBC funding).

Then who would pay carbon taxes?

 

[Danbones]

Canada: The Canadian International Trade Tribunal has started an inquiry to determine whether the dumping of gypsum wallboard from the US has damaging effects on the local market. The inquiry follows an investigation by the Canada Border Services Agency. The tribunal will determine whether the dumping has caused injury or retardation or is threatening to cause injury to the domestic industry.
Canada - Gypsum industry news from Global Gypsum

 

[petros]

French Canadians are the Dry-Wall Kings!

When I was in the trades in Boston all of the Dry Wall contractors were French Canadian. One of the younger ones who actually spoke English told me they get up at about 2:00AM and drive down from "Northern New Hampshire", work 10 hours, and leave work early on Friday.

There is truth in them words.

 

[EagleSmack]

French Canadians are the Dry-Wall Kings!

When I was in the trades in Boston all of the Dry Wall contractors were French Canadian. One of the younger ones who actually spoke English told me they get up at about 2:00AM and drive down from "Northern New Hampshire", work 10 hours, and leave work early on Friday.

Got to move this to the new page.

 

[petros]

Canada: The Canadian International Trade Tribunal has started an inquiry to determine whether the dumping of gypsum wallboard from the US has damaging effects on the local market. The inquiry follows an investigation by the Canada Border Services Agency. The tribunal will determine whether the dumping has caused injury or retardation or is threatening to cause injury to the domestic industry.
Canada - Gypsum industry news from Global Gypsum

Is cheaper non carbon taxed cement being "dumped" in Canada too or is Carbon Taxes the problem?

 

[Danbones]

synthetics might be the problem
https://www.gypsum.org/press-room/media-guide/
"Gypsum manufacturers also increasingly rely on “synthetic” gypsum as an effective alternative to natural gypsum ore. Synthetic gypsum is a byproduct primarily from the desulfurization of the flue gases in fossil-fueled power plants."

OBAMA HATES COAL PLANTS

States imported crude gypsum from 15 countries and exported
gypsum wallboard to 69 countries and territories
http://minerals.usgs.gov/minerals/pubs/commodity/gypsum/gypsumyb04.pdf

Guess where they get their raw materials if not synthetic?
...and shortly it looks like they expect the asian board markets to possibly take off and they would like to still have a Canadian industry to take advantage of that

Screw the peeps though, they may not count

 

[petros]

Fly ash isn't the problem Carbon taxes and high energy are.

 

[Machjo]

no jobs no money
then all your logic sort of collapses
no?

No money no imports. Nooney, cheap labour. Cheap labour, export boom.

Then who would pay carbon taxes?

Carbon taxes are not protectionist if they apply to domestic carbon too.