Canada is headed in the wrong direction, majority says

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Good points you bring up.

So I guess the best option is if a person feels guilty about his inheritance, then he's free to use what he needs of it to get a good education, give the rest away to charity, and then go from there I suppose.
 

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WEll not to gain anything from the rich but it does cut into what the average person can leave to their kids since they won't be able to afford to protect themselves.

Of course that is what will happen... This is the ultimate result of policy that sees every solution in a tax or other form of fiscal punishment.

We've seen it time and time again where gvt looks to pick people's pockets, hell, France instituted a 75% marginal tax rate on income over 1 million Euros and the net effect was that those people and business' up and left.... Now, they have 75% of nothing.
 

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Its a Nik Nanos poll hence designed to get the results they wish for .
What is the "wrong direction?" What a fluff piece this is and its totally not relevant to the (any) party in government. It would still be a fluff piece if the NDP or Libs were in power. Its a totally meaningless poll.


JMO
 

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What is the "wrong direction?" What a fluff piece this is and its totally not relevant to the (any) party in government. It would still be a fluff piece if the NDP or Libs were in power. Its a totally meaningless poll.


JMO

Whadda ya mean meaningless. We don't need to know the right direction. Once we know the wrong direction, all we need to do is turn in any other direction and it must be the right direciton from there on in, no?
 

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Not really surprising, Mr. Harper refuses to get rid of the drones and parasites known as the Senate (who are supposed to be the conscience of Parliament). Actually disgusting individuals!


At this point, even God couldn't get rid of the Senate!! Harper, Trudeau or what's his face can't simply wave a magic wand to get rid of the Senate. There's procedures that prevent it from happening. Why do you think Harper has asked the Supreme Court just what exactly it is he can do with the Senate? Unless the majority of the provinces agree with the majority of the population, the Senate can't even be changed to properly represent the country never mind abolishing it completely. Quebec, Ontario and Atlantic Canada would fight to the finish as they would be the big losers!!


Sorry bud, but it's not that easy no matter what any of the party leaders say.

Whadda ya mean meaningless. We don't need to know the right direction. Once we know the wrong direction, all we need to do is turn in any other direction and it must be the right direciton from there on in, no?



What about the left direction? You forgot that one! Gez, some people lol
 

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At this point, even God couldn't get rid of the Senate!! Harper, Trudeau or what's his face can't simply wave a magic wand to get rid of the Senate. There's procedures that prevent it from happening. Why do you think Harper has asked the Supreme Court just what exactly it is he can do with the Senate? Unless the majority of the provinces agree with the majority of the population, the Senate can't even be changed to properly represent the country never mind abolishing it completely. Quebec, Ontario and Atlantic Canada would fight to the finish as they would be the big losers!!


Sorry bud, but it's not that easy no matter what any of the party leaders say.





What about the left direction? You forgot that one! Gez, some people lol

Hey, there are 359 degrees of directions to choose from, assuming we don't get into decimals, besides the wrong one. And if we think in 3D, then we have een more directions to choose from.

Whenever I'm driving and realise I'm going in the wrong direction, I just randomly spin the wheel in any other direction, and that usually solves it.
 

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I work for an individual who is a millionaire (and likely a multi-millionaire). He's worked hard to get where he is and is just now able to relax somewhat and enjoy the fruits of his labour while still keeping his eye on the competition.


Without his business, I and the 20 or so employees wouldn't have a job. He takes the fact that he is responsible for his employees seriously. He knows that if he should fail, he'll likely be okay as he has the extra resources because of his hard work, but his employees, many of whom are single parents, do not.


He lives in a very nice home, collects cars and motorcycles as a hobby and does some traveling with his family. It amazes me that even some of his employees are "envious" of his situation. But who took the risks? Whose money was it that invested into his business? He is successful now because of his hard work and dedication, but when he initially started the company, he could have lost everything. But because he didn't, he should be penalized? How absurd.


He didn't get government assistance. As a previous poster stated earlier, most government assistance are for large companies, that have to invest big bucks anyway and government incentives are used to encourage them to situate in their particular region. I think that it sucks big time and don't agree with it. However, companies are in business for profit and whomever provides the best incentives will reap the benefit in terms of jobs and taxes. Unfortunately, people like my boss don't receive the same consideration and he'd likely turn it down anyway. He doesn't like to be beholden to anyone.


I think capitalism is what makes this country great; crony capitalism does not and there's the difference. Socialism/Marxism have proven to not work. People become lazy when there is no incentive to actually improve their lot in life. There are many capitalists who are also very generous and give back to their communities in various ways to those in need. We also need to care for the individuals who can't care for themselves and, for the most part, we do exactly that each and every day.


JMHO
 

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'Buy American' driving a truck through NAFTA’s loopholes


SAME US FIRM THAT EXCLUSIVELY SUPPLIES MONTREAL & HALIFAX
BEHIND "BUY AMERICA" ATTACK ON CANADA








Buy American is back with a vengeance.


And that’s not good for Canada.


The U.S. Congress recently slapped so-called Buy American restrictions on billions of dollars’ worth of water and sewer projects.


Now, the Obama administration is pushing a bill that would require 100-per-cent U.S. content in all federally funded transit projects, including subway cars, buses and high-speed trains.
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“With U.S. elections coming up, Buy American is getting a lot of political traction these days,” acknowledged Martin Lavoie, director of policy at Canadian Manufacturers & Exporters. “It’s very disturbing.”


The unfortunate reality is that the North American free-trade agreement did not create a true free-trade zone. It enshrined existing protectionist barriers, and left some gaping loopholes.





Neither NAFTA nor World Trade Organization rules prohibit restrictions on purchases by provinces, states and municipalities – even if the source of the funds is the federal government, pointed out Birgit Matthiesen, director of Canada-U.S. cross-border business affairs at law firm Arent Fox in Washington. Most of the U.S. federal money for water and transit projects is ultimately spent by local governments, she said.


Readers might recall that in 2010, Ottawa struck a deal with the U.S. government to exempt Canadian suppliers from Buy American rules.


But it was a stopgap. The agreement only covered projects funded by a massive post-recession stimulus bill. No effort was made to strike a broader bilateral deal to open up vast areas of government purchasing – as the Canada-Europe free-trade deal will.


Congress recently passed two new spending bills that mandate the use of “American iron and steel.” The bills – the Consolidated Appropriations Act and the Water Resources Reform and Development Act – cover more than $25-billion (U.S.) worth of spending.


Potentially more devastating is the pending Grow America Act, which would ratchet up U.S. content requirements to 100 per cent by 2019 from the current 60 per cent on billions worth of federal transit projects. The legislation, expected to be introduced shortly in the U.S. Senate, would likely force Canadian companies, such as subway car maker Bombardier Inc. and bus makers Nova Bus and New Flyer Industries, to shift more production – and jobs – to their U.S. plants.


This all comes in spite of protestations from Gary Doer, Canada’s ambassador to Washington, who had pleaded with congressional leaders to respect “Canada, your largest customer.”


Former prime minister Brian Mulroney lamented recently that the United States has “moved away from the spirit of NAFTA” with moves such as Buy American rules and country-labelling requirements for imported beef and pork.


Canada’s government purchasing market is generally more open to foreign suppliers than in the United States. But Canada is hardly a saint. U.S. Trade Representative Michael Froman’s recently posted annual list of trade barriers pointed out that U.S. companies are barred from selling to 33 of 40 Crown corporations in Canada.


Some Canadian industry groups argue the only way to get the attention of Congress and the White House is to make U.S. suppliers feel some pain. Canadian Manufacturers & Exporters has urged Ottawa to impose ***-for-tat “Buy Canadian” restrictions on major federally funded construction projects, starting with the $5-billion (Canadian) reconstruction of Montreal’s Champlain Bridge.


“The more you have reciprocity in the way you treat companies, the more leverage you have [and] the more they want to sign a deal with you,” the CME’s Mr. Lavoie said.


The suggestion has so far fallen on deaf ears in Ottawa. The recently released requests for bids on the Champlain Bridge has no local content requirements.


The painful irony is that U.S. companies that have lobbied hard in favour of Buy American provisions, such as pipe-fitting maker McWane Inc. of Birmingham, Ala., will continue to have unfettered access to Canadian projects.


Canada should push for fixing NAFTA to cover purchases by all levels of government, or pursue a separate procurement deal with the United States.


Do nothing and Buy American language risks becoming an insidious template for future U.S. spending bills and a permanent roadblock for Canadian exports.




'Buy American' driving a truck through NAFTA’s loopholes - The Globe and Mail
 

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'Buy American' driving a truck through NAFTA’s loopholes


SAME US FIRM THAT EXCLUSIVELY SUPPLIES MONTREAL & HALIFAX
BEHIND "BUY AMERICA" ATTACK ON CANADA








Buy American is back with a vengeance.


And that’s not good for Canada.


The U.S. Congress recently slapped so-called Buy American restrictions on billions of dollars’ worth of water and sewer projects.


Now, the Obama administration is pushing a bill that would require 100-per-cent U.S. content in all federally funded transit projects, including subway cars, buses and high-speed trains.
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“With U.S. elections coming up, Buy American is getting a lot of political traction these days,” acknowledged Martin Lavoie, director of policy at Canadian Manufacturers & Exporters. “It’s very disturbing.”


The unfortunate reality is that the North American free-trade agreement did not create a true free-trade zone. It enshrined existing protectionist barriers, and left some gaping loopholes.





Neither NAFTA nor World Trade Organization rules prohibit restrictions on purchases by provinces, states and municipalities – even if the source of the funds is the federal government, pointed out Birgit Matthiesen, director of Canada-U.S. cross-border business affairs at law firm Arent Fox in Washington. Most of the U.S. federal money for water and transit projects is ultimately spent by local governments, she said.


Readers might recall that in 2010, Ottawa struck a deal with the U.S. government to exempt Canadian suppliers from Buy American rules.


But it was a stopgap. The agreement only covered projects funded by a massive post-recession stimulus bill. No effort was made to strike a broader bilateral deal to open up vast areas of government purchasing – as the Canada-Europe free-trade deal will.


Congress recently passed two new spending bills that mandate the use of “American iron and steel.” The bills – the Consolidated Appropriations Act and the Water Resources Reform and Development Act – cover more than $25-billion (U.S.) worth of spending.


Potentially more devastating is the pending Grow America Act, which would ratchet up U.S. content requirements to 100 per cent by 2019 from the current 60 per cent on billions worth of federal transit projects. The legislation, expected to be introduced shortly in the U.S. Senate, would likely force Canadian companies, such as subway car maker Bombardier Inc. and bus makers Nova Bus and New Flyer Industries, to shift more production – and jobs – to their U.S. plants.


This all comes in spite of protestations from Gary Doer, Canada’s ambassador to Washington, who had pleaded with congressional leaders to respect “Canada, your largest customer.”


Former prime minister Brian Mulroney lamented recently that the United States has “moved away from the spirit of NAFTA” with moves such as Buy American rules and country-labelling requirements for imported beef and pork.


Canada’s government purchasing market is generally more open to foreign suppliers than in the United States. But Canada is hardly a saint. U.S. Trade Representative Michael Froman’s recently posted annual list of trade barriers pointed out that U.S. companies are barred from selling to 33 of 40 Crown corporations in Canada.


Some Canadian industry groups argue the only way to get the attention of Congress and the White House is to make U.S. suppliers feel some pain. Canadian Manufacturers & Exporters has urged Ottawa to impose ***-for-tat “Buy Canadian” restrictions on major federally funded construction projects, starting with the $5-billion (Canadian) reconstruction of Montreal’s Champlain Bridge.


“The more you have reciprocity in the way you treat companies, the more leverage you have [and] the more they want to sign a deal with you,” the CME’s Mr. Lavoie said.


The suggestion has so far fallen on deaf ears in Ottawa. The recently released requests for bids on the Champlain Bridge has no local content requirements.


The painful irony is that U.S. companies that have lobbied hard in favour of Buy American provisions, such as pipe-fitting maker McWane Inc. of Birmingham, Ala., will continue to have unfettered access to Canadian projects.


Canada should push for fixing NAFTA to cover purchases by all levels of government, or pursue a separate procurement deal with the United States.


Do nothing and Buy American language risks becoming an insidious template for future U.S. spending bills and a permanent roadblock for Canadian exports.




'Buy American' driving a truck through NAFTA’s loopholes - The Globe and Mail



Need anymore reasons to build Northern Gateway?
The real invention Canada needs is a way to store and transport electricity by ship.
 

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I work for an individual who is a millionaire (and likely a multi-millionaire). He's worked hard to get where he is and is just now able to relax somewhat and enjoy the fruits of his labour while still keeping his eye on the competition.


Without his business, I and the 20 or so employees wouldn't have a job. He takes the fact that he is responsible for his employees seriously. He knows that if he should fail, he'll likely be okay as he has the extra resources because of his hard work, but his employees, many of whom are single parents, do not.


He lives in a very nice home, collects cars and motorcycles as a hobby and does some traveling with his family. It amazes me that even some of his employees are "envious" of his situation. But who took the risks? Whose money was it that invested into his business? He is successful now because of his hard work and dedication, but when he initially started the company, he could have lost everything. But because he didn't, he should be penalized? How absurd.


He didn't get government assistance. As a previous poster stated earlier, most government assistance are for large companies, that have to invest big bucks anyway and government incentives are used to encourage them to situate in their particular region. I think that it sucks big time and don't agree with it. However, companies are in business for profit and whomever provides the best incentives will reap the benefit in terms of jobs and taxes. Unfortunately, people like my boss don't receive the same consideration and he'd likely turn it down anyway. He doesn't like to be beholden to anyone.


I think capitalism is what makes this country great; crony capitalism does not and there's the difference. Socialism/Marxism have proven to not work. People become lazy when there is no incentive to actually improve their lot in life. There are many capitalists who are also very generous and give back to their communities in various ways to those in need. We also need to care for the individuals who can't care for themselves and, for the most part, we do exactly that each and every day.


JMHO

Canadas money supply late ninetys 200 billion now over 1 trillion. That's how CAPITALISM has worked to steal chunks of your paycheque in ever increasing increments.
Yes capitalism works on paper but human greed always trumps paper, in the end. And speaking of the end, this latest round of hyper destructive usury is about to culminate in a spectacular wealth and blood sacrifice of those same acolytes such as you who have lauded a system they in fact know nothing about. I don't expect to see you posting here about the beauty of the carnage about to be unleashed by the miracle of capitalism. It only works when it is muzzled and on a thick chain leash. Free trade and other insane con games has allowed a mad foaming mad dog to run among us.
 

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Ontario as an example of what faces Canada, has to pick from a trio of losers with one having no platform, no plan, and seemingly no ability to develop one.


A corrupt leader inheriting the leadership of a party of buffoons who, among the many retarded decisions taken during his tenure and worse than a mafia don, who you could at least understand his malfeasance to line his pockets, signed agreements to create a failed E-health data exchange program, pushed through wind farms by cutting sweetheart deals with farmers forcing the rest of us to pay exorbitant electric rates while they get rebates and committed to build gas fired generation plants then cancelled them for no other pupose but to satisfy a nimby coalition of idiots and now claims she knew nothing of those deals while a sitting member of his cabinet; now that's really stupid politics!


Then your third choice is a Mike Harris accolyte who claims he's gonna transmogrify 100 thousand public service jobs (by eliminating them) into a million private sector jobs through nothing more than his say-so and a wave of the conservative wand.


He yaps about actual job numbers when his figures are all about man years and this guy is supposedly an accountant! GADS!


Never in the history of Ontario politics has the freak'n cupboard been so bare of even the crumbs of a semblance of an intelligent, reasoned and ethical candidate.


Wake me up when it's over.
 
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News of Flint Energy trying to hire 600 temporary foreign workers while turning Canadians away is creating anger among Canadian workers.


Court records released last month show that the Calgary-based provider of construction services in the oil and gas industry now owned by the US corporation URS attempted to hire 601 TFWs involved in the trades with the help of recruitment company SK Personnel based in Edmonton, Alberta.


The court case started after Citizenship and Immigration Canada rejected the vast majority of work permit applications and SK Personnel, who also have an office in India, sued Flint Energy over a contract dispute.


Qualified Canadian workers accuse Flint Energy of laying them off and ignoring the resumes of Canadian candidates while trying to bring in TFWs.


Landon Harvey from Forestburg, Alberta is one such experienced journeyman electrician who has been applying for jobs with Flint Energy for years without even receiving a call back from the company.


“I feel that I have been passed over for posted jobs because I have an opinion, and can speak English well enough to tell it,” Harvey said. “Why hire a journeyman electrician that got his ticket in this country and spent the last 18 years busting my *** learning and perfecting the trade, when they can hire a TFW ?”


“I believe as an electrician we have rights and have to stick to a code of conduct,” he added. “We need to keep the work in Canada and done by Canadians.”

Journeyman pipefitter and CWB certified welder Jeff Freed from Saskatchewan accused Flint Energy of replacing him with TFWs.


“It makes me angry that we have Canadians out of work we can train because most TFWS have no knowledge and have to be trained,” Freed said. “And I sit at home broke while unskilled TFWs send billions of dollars back to their home countries.”


Freed had a message for Federal Employment Minister Jason Kenney who is in charge of overseeing the TFW program.


“I am not even sure how the majority of TFWs get to Canada because once they get here we have to train them or most of time redo their work as it is not up to code.,” Freed said.


“Let’s train Canadians, teach youth trade skills instead of building training centres in the Philippines.”




Flint Energy attempts to hire 600 TFWs draw workers’ ire | NTFW
 

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News of Flint Energy trying to hire 600 temporary foreign workers while turning Canadians away is creating anger among Canadian workers.


Court records released last month show that the Calgary-based provider of construction services in the oil and gas industry now owned by the US corporation URS attempted to hire 601 TFWs involved in the trades with the help of recruitment company SK Personnel based in Edmonton, Alberta.



Flint Energy attempts to hire 600 TFWs draw workers’ ire | NTFW


Where the workmanship is the same the jobs should go to Canadians first, otherwise to the one who can best do the job! -:)
 

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Same direction as hitler took. When a government wants to revoke a person's citizenship just because they protest against the government is proof