Canada Bashers Double Standard
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Re: RE: CANADA BASHERS DOUBLE STANDARD
Goodday Haggis, I was about to make a personal attack but thought better of it. I could not endure torture at your hands, I would tell you everything.
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Haggis McBagpipe said:
Goodday Haggis, I was about to make a personal attack but thought better of it. I could not endure torture at your hands, I would tell you everything.
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Why, hello zoofer and darkbeaver. Have you signed the agreement yet? Hmm, let me go check. . . .
Re: RE: CANADA BASHERS DOUBLE STANDARD
Well you sure implied it with the comments you have directed at me.
And I wasn't at the meeting.
If I was I would have raised my hand and said prove it. Prove to me how free speech is of a lesser quality than the other "ideas" tell me how high taxes and nanny states are in any competition with low taxes and Free states. People who accumulate capital aren’t under some guise of ideology. It is the ideologists who want to think so they gave it the name it carries.
the caracal kid said:
Well you sure implied it with the comments you have directed at me.
the caracal kid said:
And I wasn't at the meeting.
If I was I would have raised my hand and said prove it. Prove to me how free speech is of a lesser quality than the other "ideas" tell me how high taxes and nanny states are in any competition with low taxes and Free states. People who accumulate capital aren’t under some guise of ideology. It is the ideologists who want to think so they gave it the name it carries.
In my opinion, a modern society should not attempt to purge itself of socialism entirely. Certain socialist aspects of Canada, such as the public health care system, are something worth preserving — one's health should not depend on one's material worth. In what is also perhaps a socialist concept, are rulings by the Supreme Court of Canada based on group rights, often rather than those of the individual — which is, in my opinion, necessary to defend society from oppression.
No, I think not, I meant what I said; where groups are protected, individuals, too, are protected. By way of example, if each and every same-sex couple who wished to marry had to go through the entire justice process to reach inevitably the same conclusion in order to marry, rather than have one result take sweeping effect over the jurisdiction, is a socialist aspect of Canada.
"are something worth preserving — one's health should not depend on one's material worth"
Right, and to do this you have to have the federal government usurp provincial powers and have everyone under the same plan? There just is no other way than to step on people's rights and tell them they can’t buy their own health insurance?
Right, and to do this you have to have the federal government usurp provincial powers and have everyone under the same plan? There just is no other way than to step on people's rights and tell them they can’t buy their own health insurance?
And when individuals are not afforded rights that groups have, isn't that discriminatory? Isn't that injustice?
As far as my understanding of the situation would lead me to believe, the right to purchase insurance is not defined in the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms, nor in any constitution manifestations before then, and not from the unwritten constitution inherited from Great Britain.
The Government is not required to facilitate the purchase of private health insurance, possibly at the expense of the integrity of the public system. Obviously if for-profit facilities are constructed and advocated, then doctors are not going to stay in the public system where profit is non-existant. They are going to transfer to the private system, leaving deadly wait times and dangers for citizens who can't afford to purchase private insurance.
The Government is not required to facilitate the purchase of private health insurance, possibly at the expense of the integrity of the public system. Obviously if for-profit facilities are constructed and advocated, then doctors are not going to stay in the public system where profit is non-existant. They are going to transfer to the private system, leaving deadly wait times and dangers for citizens who can't afford to purchase private insurance.
It doesn't say anywhere in the Charter that citizens cannot purchase privat ehealth insurance either, but it is against the law to do so.
The Canada Health Act, unless contravened by the Constitution Act, 1982, is no less valid than the Charter.
Re: RE: Canada Bashers Double Standard
Well, if one sues the Canadian Government, I would imagine they can make the case it is unconstituional to prohibit someone from purchasing private health care.
FiveParadox said:
Well, if one sues the Canadian Government, I would imagine they can make the case it is unconstituional to prohibit someone from purchasing private health care.
Top court strikes down Quebec private health-care ban
http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/2005/06/09/newscoc-health050609.html
There you go.
http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/2005/06/09/newscoc-health050609.html
There you go.