B.C. Premier Campbell looks to run for 4th term in 2013

[Liberalman]

You really have no idea what is going on, do you?

Harmonized sales tax is a tax that people pay anyways which is the PST and the GST combined.

The BC revenue people that take care of the PST will be transferred to the federal government so the province is saving money in saved salaries.

Ontario is bringing in a tax reduction to offset the PST portion of the HST.

This is the BC government web site for HST http://www.gov.bc.ca/hst/faq.html

Campbell has nothing to worry about because by the time the election happens HST would be in for a couple of years.

 

[Kreskin]

Problem with the NDP is, aside from everything, they usually have some blowhard leader who makes up policy positions based on what the headlines are in yesterday's Province newspaper.

 

[Cliffy]

With the HST we will be paying PST on items that were exempt before. Campbell has made major cuts in health care and education to pay for the Olympics and has brutalized the poor and elderly. He is a corporate shill who doesn't give a damn about people.

 

[Liberalman]

With the HST we will be paying PST on items that were exempt before. Campbell has made major cuts in health care and education to pay for the Olympics and has brutalized the poor and elderly. He is a corporate shill who doesn't give a damn about people.

And the province can bring in tax reductions

 

[Dexter Sinister]

"Term" has a specific meaning in electoral politics and it doesn't apply here. There are no term limits in Canadian politics except at the municipal level, it is simply not correct to refer to Campbell's tenure as premier as three or potentially four terms. He's the premier as long as he's the leader of the party that keeps getting elected, his term of office is continuous from his first success. If you must use that word, understand that it's just a colloquial usage, not formally a term of office, he's in his first term as premier and will remain so until his party is defeated and he's compelled to resign as premier. Pedantry, some will no doubt say, but it *does* matter. To refer to his electoral victories as resulting in terms of office is to completely misunderstand how the system works.

 

[VanIsle]

Harmonized sales tax is a tax that people pay anyways which is the PST and the GST combined.
Do you actually think we did not know that?

The BC revenue people that take care of the PST will be transferred to the federal government so the province is saving money in saved salaries.
What is saved in salaries is also saved in calories. More people without jobs again because there is no way most of them will be transferred. The province won't save anything in the long run.
Ontario is bringing in a tax reduction to offset the PST portion of the HST.
Well - that 's not BC is it?

This is the BC government web site for HST http://www.gov.bc.ca/hst/faq.html

Campbell has nothing to worry about because by the time the election happens HST would be in for a couple of years.

It certainly will be in, and many restaurants will be closed in a couple of years putting lots more people out of work. There will be new taxes added to the costs of a meal and no one is going to pay out the 15% that is currently the accepted tip and I doubt many will even go so far as to add on the old 10%. Owners will have to pay out more money to get good servers so their profit margin will go down and some will go down enough to close their doors. Many students work as wait staff during the summer because of the tips. Now that won't be an option. Travel will have extra taxes again so that too will drop off. Campbell brags on TV about us being the lowest taxes province. He won't be airing that anymore. Surely you get the picture.

 

[VanIsle]

With the HST we will be paying PST on items that were exempt before. Campbell has made major cuts in health care and education to pay for the Olympics and has brutalized the poor and elderly. He is a corporate shill who doesn't give a damn about people.

Exactly!

 

[Nuggler]

With the HST we will be paying PST on items that were exempt before. Campbell has made major cuts in health care and education to pay for the Olympics and has brutalized the poor and elderly. He is a corporate shill who doesn't give a damn about people.

Sounds like a Mike Harris in Campbell clothing. Maybe they're related.:angry3:

 

[Cliffy]

Sounds like a Mike Harris in Campbell clothing. Maybe they're related.:angry3:

Well, he is assured of his big fat pension at our expense, so going for a forth term proves to me that he is one mean SOB. But I'm sure that his corporate masters will pay him handsomely. I bet his Swiss or Cayman Island bank accounts are fairly bloated already.

 

[JLM]

B.C. Premier Gordon Campbell is mm mm good

Yep, people either love him or hate him. Personally I'm not impressed with him, but we have to be very careful before we jump out of the frying pan into the fire. I don't like this H.S.T. but still it's too early to get excited as I'm pretty sure there is going to be some fine tuning and if not we can always survive by NOT going to restaurants. The acid test is going to be if the 2010 Charade takes money out of our pockets or puts money in.

 

[JLM]

And the province can bring in tax reductions

His political life will no doubt depend on it. The provincial real estate tax is nothing short of criminal at 1-2%- Another 5% will never fly and will kill the real estate industry in B.C.................but having said that, he'll never impose it.

 

[JLM]

It certainly will be in, and many restaurants will be closed in a couple of years putting lots more people out of work. There will be new taxes added to the costs of a meal and no one is going to pay out the 15% that is currently the accepted tip and I doubt many will even go so far as to add on the old 10%. Owners will have to pay out more money to get good servers so their profit margin will go down and some will go down enough to close their doors. Many students work as wait staff during the summer because of the tips. Now that won't be an option. Travel will have extra taxes again so that too will drop off. Campbell brags on TV about us being the lowest taxes province. He won't be airing that anymore. Surely you get the picture.

VanIsle- That might just be a blessing in disguise- most of the crap these restaurants are putting out is killing us, especially our young people. Best case scenario would be that all the worst ones bite the dust (goodbye Mickey) and a few like Subway survive. Anyway it will be interesting to see how it all goes down. One thing for certain in politics- one a$$hole goes down, another a$$hole will be jumping in to fill his spot.

 

[Mowich]

the voters of BC picked Campbell for three terms because he puts the people first

Oh, puh...lease! Put the people first! That is way too funny, Liberalman. I knew we were done when he called the BC Interior, The Heartland. He gave it that moniker then promplty forgot that we even existed.

I don't believe Campbell at all. So, no - I don't believe he means to stick around and if he does, I may well vote for the Rhino party!

 

[Mowich]

VanIsle- That might just be a blessing in disguise- most of the crap these restaurants are putting out is killing us, especially our young people. Best case scenario would be that all the worst ones bite the dust (goodbye Mickey) and a few like Subway survive. Anyway it will be interesting to see how it all goes down. One thing for certain in politics- one a$$hole goes down, another a$$hole will be jumping in to fill his spot.

Gotta agree with you about Mickey D's et al, JLM. The sooner they bite the dust, the better - unless they have some corporate epiphany and finally get on the healthy food band wagon.

I tend to get a bit jaded about politicos too, JLM. I once truly believed that someone running for office could make a difference. Now, well now I just hope that they don't end up getting completley corrupted by the system.

I still think there are people who run for office for the best of intentions, but they usually don't have a clue what an uphill grind it will be to stay true to their beliefs. Lambs to the slaughter.

 

[Francis2004]

the voters of BC picked Campbell for three terms because he puts the people first

No BC picked Campbell because no one else put the people first.. He basically amounts to the least of all evils and hence why he gets elected..

 

[Mowich]

No BC picked Campbell because no one else put the people first.. He basically amounts to the least of all evils and hence why he gets elected..

Well you got the 'least of all evils' part right, Francis. :lol::lol:

 

[Francis2004]

It certainly will be in, and many restaurants will be closed in a couple of years putting lots more people out of work. There will be new taxes added to the costs of a meal and no one is going to pay out the 15% that is currently the accepted tip and I doubt many will even go so far as to add on the old 10%. Owners will have to pay out more money to get good servers so their profit margin will go down and some will go down enough to close their doors. Many students work as wait staff during the summer because of the tips. Now that won't be an option. Travel will have extra taxes again so that too will drop off. Campbell brags on TV about us being the lowest taxes province. He won't be airing that anymore. Surely you get the picture.

I'm not quite sure VanIsle..

I think your overreacting to this.. I have been to places where the HST is already in place and people seem to accept it and restaurants / fast food just keeps thriving..

I remember when BC decided that pubs and restaurants no longer would allow smoking.. The industry said it would all go bankrupt but that didn't happen.. In fact the industry has never been so alive now.

Peoples old habits die hard especially when it comes to food..

 

[VanIsle]

I'm not quite sure VanIsle..

I think your overreacting to this.. I have been to places where the HST is already in place and people seem to accept it and restaurants / fast food just keeps thriving..

I remember when BC decided that pubs and restaurants no longer would allow smoking.. The industry said it would all go bankrupt but that didn't happen.. In fact the industry has never been so alive now.

Peoples old habits die hard especially when it comes to food..

No - I'm not over-reacting Francis. It's even been all over the papers that restaurants are scared and they are talking to Campbell, pleading with him not to do this. Campbell has already backed off on the amount of HST that will be charged on housing (on the big very expensive homes). We have always had to pay the PST in BC anyway on any house purchase. Some restaurants will close but I don't believe it will be the fast food places at all. They don't pay staff well and their staff doesn't depend on tips. In the better restaurants, they don't pay their staff well so their staff does depend on tips. It's not going to happen right away because it's not like there are a lot of jobs out there for every server to move on to. They were coveted jobs for students who needed the money. I work with kids who wanted to work in restaurants but couldn't find a job in one that would give them more than a few hours in the summer. I don't know about other jobs but even in my own, I ask for 32 hours per week which they are totally rude about and they stretch that out over a 5 day period. This coming week, they expect it to be slower (I don't know why because we have been sooo busy it's hard to believe that anyone could be out of work) so I am only scheduled for 28 hours, and 30 the next. We sat with one till closed yesterday because they didn't have enough staff on. Cheap! Just like restaurant owners. People lined up everywhere and no one to help them.
What you have to remember about "smoke-less" bars Francis is there were a lot of people who simply would not go a bar because of the smoke. Now, without smoking, people go because they don't have to sit there and breath in the smoke or go home smelling like a cigarette. In BC (at least up to a couple of years ago) there are less smokers than any other province so it's natural that the Bars would do better by banning smoking.

 

[VanIsle]

VanIsle- That might just be a blessing in disguise- most of the crap these restaurants are putting out is killing us, especially our young people. Best case scenario would be that all the worst ones bite the dust (goodbye Mickey) and a few like Subway survive. Anyway it will be interesting to see how it all goes down. One thing for certain in politics- one a$$hole goes down, another a$$hole will be jumping in to fill his spot.

JLM I don't think there is a restaurant that truly serves healthy food. Higher end restaurants serve all the fancy sauces that are not healthy and full of butter, flour and cheese. Subway healthy? If you ask for the good bread and throw out everything but the lettuce, onion and tomatoes etc. you'll get healthy. There is nothing healthy about processed meat. It's chalk full of salt for one thing.

 

[JLM]

JLM I don't think there is a restaurant that truly serves healthy food. Higher end restaurants serve all the fancy sauces that are not healthy and full of butter, flour and cheese. Subway healthy? If you ask for the good bread and throw out everything but the lettuce, onion and tomatoes etc. you'll get healthy. There is nothing healthy about processed meat. It's chalk full of salt for one thing.

I think Subway is healthy in that they have all the ingredients for a healthy meal, which the patron has complete freedom to choose. Deny the patron the right to choose the garbage, then you may be in deep doo doo with the Charter of Rights (our saviour).