Are we about to repeat WWI?

darkbeaver

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Canada has never been more threatened than it is right at this moment. Our economic subjugation was completed with the signing of the SPP agreements right now we have no idea who is running our security apparatus and we have no idea what contracts we have entered into. We do know we are not a soverign state, that is for sure, no western nation is, each and everyone belongs to the bankers, lock stock and barrel. The break-up of the united states is unavoidable. We will be striped to the bone of all usefull war materials, including personell.
 
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When Harper got in office the first thing he did was face the Canadian flag put his hand over his heart and said God bless Canada which was a signal to the Amercan government that Canada is ready for statehood

Oh say can you see by the dawns early light
 
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Machjo said:
When we look at it in terms of number of troops, however, I think we'd need at least 100,000 troops before other countries would really start panicking about us. Canada has only about 65,000 troops, well within 'provocative' limits. So I sppose we needn't worry about Canada unduly provoking an arms race abroad. I guess the main concern is with other countries that do have enough active troops to provoke such an arms race, such as the US, the UK, France, etc.
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You can't be serious. Why would they panic about Canada having 100,000 troops?
 
petros

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Liberalman said:
When Harper got in office the first thing he did was face the Canadian flag put his hand over his heart and said God bless Canada which was a signal to the Amercan government that Canada is ready for statehood

Oh say can you see by the dawns early light
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Another HUGE laugh....dawn's early light? More like Rule Britannia. Who do you think all the debt is owed to by both US and Canada?
 
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darkbeaver said:
Stupid Yankee it's because we have the high ground, look at any map, we can roll giant snowballs into the states from any point.:lol:
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Not with Global Warming you can't...did you see that bare patch in Greenland! You guys are all out of snow!
 
petros

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War is the new global economy, here are some of the players just from the USA everyone of them wants the wars they've paid for.

I pulled up all of the reports for first quarter 2009 but over 20,000 items came up (and the report only shows the first 3000). OK, try again - all reports for over $1 million for first quarter 2009. This time a little over 100 came up (including AIG, who spent $1,250,000 on lobbying during that period).

By Jill Richardson


June 23, 2009 "La Vida Locavore"Health Care, Health Insurance, & Pharma
3. Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America: $6,910,000
6. Pfizer, Inc: $6,140,000
12. American Medical Association: $4,240,000
18. American Hospital Association: $3,580,000
19. Eli Lilly and Company: $3,440,000
37. America's Health Insurance Plans, Inc: $2,030,000
39. CVS Caremark Inc: $2,005,000
47. Blue Cross and Blue Shield Association: $1,800,000
49. GlaxoSmithKline: $1,780,000
63. Merck & Co: $1,500,000
65. United Health Group, Inc: $1,500,000
69. Sanofi-Aventis U.S. Inc: $1,460,000
76. Novartis: $1,347,134
87. Abbott Laboratories: $1,260,000
89. Astrazeneca Pharmaceuticals, LP: $1,250,000
92. Medtronic, Inc: $1,238,000
Oil
2. Exxon Mobil: $9,320,000
4. Chevron U.S.A. Inc: $6,800,000
7. Conoco Phillips: $5,980,935
16. BP America, Inc: $3,610,000
20. Marathon Oil Corporation: $3,380,000
45. American Petroleum Institute: $1,810,000
Defense
5. Lockheed Martin Corporation: $6,380,000
11. General Electric Company: $4,540,000
28. Northrop Grumman Corporation: $2,570,000
30. Boeing Company: $2,410,00
51. Honeywell International: $1,760,000
73. Raytheon Company: $1,360,000
Telecoms
10. AT&T Services, Inc: $5,134,873
14. Verizon (excluding Verizon Wireless): $3,760,000
21. National Cable and Telecommunications Association: $3,370,000
23. Comcast Corporation: $2,760,000
68. Motorola, Inc: $1,470,000
Automotive
22. General Motors: $2,800,000
27. United Services Automobile Association: $2,590,244
52. Ford Motor Company: $1,750,000
84. Toyota Motor North America: $1,290,000
86. Alliance of Automobile Manufacturers: $1,264,400
Financial
32. Financial Services Roundtable: $2,260,000
33. Prudential Financial, Inc: $2,180,000
41. American Bankers Association: $1,890,000
61. Visa, Inc: $1,540,000
74. Investment Company Institute: $1,359,917
75. Securities Industry and Financial Markets Association: $1,350,000
82. J.P. Morgan Chase Bank, N.A.: $1,310,000
90. Citigroup Management Corp: $1,250,000
90. Credit Union National Association: $1,250,000
Biotech
36. Monsanto: $2,094,000
40. Biotechnology Industry Organization (BIO): $1,920,000
44. Bayer Corporation: $1,843,672
Railroads
24. Association of American Railroads: $2,759,545
54. Union Pacific Corporation: $1,717,108
71. BNSF Railway: $1,400,000
Life Insurance
42. American Council of Life Insurers: $1,867,075
44. New York Life Insurance Company: $1,840,000
64. State Farm Insurance: $1,500,000
93. The Northwestern Mutual Life Insurance Company: $1,237,000
Other
1. Chamber of Commerce of the U.S.A.: $9,996,000
8. National Association of Realtors: $5,727,000
9. U.S. Chamber Institute for Legal Reform: $5,480,000
13. AARP: $4,090,000
15. Southern Company: $3,650,000
17. Altria Client Services Inc: $3,580,000
25. Amgen, Inc: $2,750,000
26. National Association of Broadcasters: $2,600,000
29. Edison Electric Institute: $2,550,000
31. Fedex Corporation: $2,370,000
34. Textron, Inc.: $2,140,000
35. General Dynamics Corp: $2,101,945
38. International Business Machines (IBM): $2,030,000
43. United Technologies Corporation: $1,860,000
46. Recording Industry Association of America: $1,810,000
48. CTIA-The Wireless Association: $1,790,000
50. Time Warner Inc. $1,780,000
53. The Dow Chemical Company: $1,735,000
55. American Electric Power Company: $1,716,913
56. Microsoft Corporation: $1,650,000
57. Qualcomm, Incorporated: $1,620,000
58. Wal-Mart Stores, Inc: $1,600,000
59. L-3 Communications: $1,580,000
60. Exelon Business Services, LLC: $1,540,000
62. Johnson & Johnson Services, Inc: $1,530,000
66. Norfolk Southern Corporation: $1,485,026
67. Koch Companies Public Sector LLC: $1,480,000
70. American Airlines: $1,450,000
72. Oracle Corporation: $1,390,000
77. Air Transport Association of America, Inc.: $1,340,000
78. Disney Worldwide Services, Inc.: $1,330,000
79. Sepracor, Inc: $1,324,157
80. National Association of Home Builders: $1,320,000
81. UPS: $1,316,426
83. Siemens Corporation: $1,300,000
85. Duke Energy Corporation: $1,282,770
94. Distilled Spirits Council of the U.S., Inc: $1,230,000
95. Business Roundtable: $1,220,000
96. Wellpoint, Inc: $1,220,000
97. American Wind Energy Association: $1,212,504
98. F. Hoffmann-La Roche Ltd: $1,206,427
99. National Rural Electric Cooperative Association: $1,200,000
99. CBS Corporation: $1,200,000
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Why no unions on the list? I thought unions were the bane of humanity and economic success and harass govt every minute of the day? You would think at least one of the world killing unions would be on the list. Go figure.
 
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petros said:
Why no unions on the list? I thought unions were the bane of humanity and economic success and harass govt every minute of the day? You would think at least one of the world killing unions would be on the list. Go figure.
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The companies that you listed include multiple public corporations that are required to disclose their financial postions (incl significant expenditures) and to my knowledge, political contributions and lobbying expenditures are recorded as well.

Want the Union financials, you must get access to the info re: their trust accounts (the actual Union is not a for-profit organization), however, considering that both auto unions in N. America were able to write cheques in the billions in order to buy their position(s), I think it's reasonable to assume that they are as big (if not bigger) than many of the companies on your list.

... And yes, considering the amount of cash they have in reserve and don't distribute to their bretheren regardless of the current economic conditions, they are the bane of humanity.
 
petros

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captain morgan said:
The companies that you listed include multiple public corporations that are required to disclose their financial postions (incl significant expenditures) and to my knowledge, political contributions and lobbying expenditures are recorded as well.

Want the Union financials, you must get access to the info re: their trust accounts (the actual Union is not a for-profit organization), however, considering that both auto unions in N. America were able to write cheques in the billions in order to buy their position(s), I think it's reasonable to assume that they are as big (if not bigger) than many of the companies on your list.

... And yes, considering the amount of cash they have in reserve and don't distribute to their bretheren regardless of the current economic conditions, they are the bane of humanity.
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BINGO!!! You just stumbled into the elite's little secret.NPOs...the biggest tax scam on the planet. Find one massively rich like Turner, Gates, Rockefeller who do not have their money in NPOs. When Buffet took taxable money and slid it into an NPO the boneheads of media politics cheered to help create an illusion of giving it away. It merely a way to invest, spend what you want, how you want tax free.
 
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