Agnostics and Athiests...is there a more believeable religion in the world?

Dexter Sinister

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Why would they need writing to express what can be easily known with geometry?
And how did they do geometry and leave a record of it without making marks on something? You got petroglyphs with the dimensions of the solar system on them? Your reluctance to identify your source makes me suspect you've been reading some bad archaeology in the style of von Daniken, Stitchin, Velikovsky, Hancock, et al.
 

Dexter Sinister

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As an agnostic, the problem I have with religions (and atheism as well) is there is no real supporting evidence.
What possible evidence could there be to support atheism? Atheism's a refusal to believe a certain claim based on the *absence* of evidence for it.

Look up the origins of the word geometry.
I know what it means and what its origins are. Quit pussyfooting around this, give me the source for your claim that people 10,000 years ago knew the dimensions of the earth-sun-moon system.
 

petros

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Annnnncient Chinese secret. Just like Calgon. Do your own research. If you weren't so damn pissy I'd have told you flat out.
 

petros

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Try this....360,000 (circle broken into the 1000/ths) x 365.242 (length of the year) divided by 5280 (feet in a mile) and see how close it comes to circumference of the earth at the equator in miles. About 99.99% accurate or not?

Who figured that out and when?

Ahhhhhh they were off by a mile.....not bad for monolithic.

Try this....360,000 (circle broken into the 1000/ths) x 365.242 (length of the year) divided by 5280 (feet in a mile) and see how close it comes to circumference of the earth at the equator in miles. About 99.99% accurate or not?

Who figured that out and when?

Ahhhhhh they were off by a mile.....not bad for monolithic.
OOOOPS my bad. 99.994% off.

That would mean the circumfrence of the earth was known before the foot was invented.

The first known standard foot measure was from Sumer, where a definition is given in a statue of Gudea of Lagash from around 2575 BC

That also means they had the equator peged dead center. Not bad for dumb assed cavemen..


Should I go on to the moon and sun or does that still kind of **** with your noggin?
 

gerryh

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Like I said, I can find ancient geometry going back to 3000 BCE, Egyptian and Babylonian mathematics. That still only 5000 years ago, not 10,000.
 

petros

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Like I said, I can find ancient geometry going back to 3000 BCE, Egyptian and Babylonian mathematics. That still only 5000 years ago, not 10,000.
Try the math and see how precise those ancient jackasses were.

Who did the Egytptians learn it from? They were really damn good for being new.
 

gerryh

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Try the math and see how precise those ancient jackasses were.

Who did the Egytptians learn it from? They were really damn good for being new.


It comes down to this petros. You made the 10,000 year ago claim. I can only find verification back 5,000 years. If you have verification beyond that, post the link.
 

petros

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I told ya. It's a secret but I gave you OODLES to start you off with and you still gotta ask me for more? Yup you found 5000 years but like i asked. Who did they learn it from? Who was the first to figure out 365.242 out of 360 degrees dead smack on the equator?
 

petros

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Egyptians knew it long before he did.

Maybe somewhere on this planet the neolithics left a some rocks laying around and you'll find them someday and find how accurate their geometry is and how they knew what the Egyptians knew several thousands of years later. Egpytians knew pi and phi. They picked it up from where? Their Pharoah human gods?
 
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gerryh

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Egyptians knew it long before he did.

Maybe somewhere on this planet the neolithics left a some rocks laying around and you'll find them someday and find how accurate their geometry is and how they knew what the Egyptians knew several thousands of years later. Egpytians knew pi and phi. They picked it up from where? Their Pharoah human gods?


Ok, guess I'm just too damn stupid to figure it out.
 

petros

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You're not stupid gerryh, hell no. It's a noggin scratcher to accept that geometry (earth measurment) is far far older than you thought.





Why did it take Phidias, Plato, Euclid, Pythagoras 2000 years to figure this **** out?

Who or what was holding out on them?
 

gerryh

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You're not stupid gerryh, hell no. It's a noggin scratcher to accept that geometry (earth measurment) is far far older than you thought.





Why did it take Phidias, Plato, Euclid, Pythagoras 2000 years to figure this **** out?

Who or what was holding out on them?



Ummmm...I already mentioned the Egyptians and Babylonians. That would be 3000 BCE. Great Pyramid was built around 2750 BCE. That is still 5000 years newer than your 10,000 year ago time line.