190 countries agree to climate change 'contribution' deal

Liberalman

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People will understand that Climate Change is a massive hoax long before 2050.

Harper will have accomplished his mandate

As long as people don't make it into a conspiracy which can last for a longer period of time the hoax can end. Our only cure for climate change is bubble cities
 

IdRatherBeSkiing

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Why's that? Are your ski slopes melting?

I'm of the opinion that 500 years from now people will be looking back to the early 21st Century and look upon us believing that a few "unusual" climatic events were caused by Global Warming in the same way that we now look back to the 17th Century and people's beliefs that the deaths of livestock on the village farm were caused by the witch in the cottage next door. They'd look back on us as primitive simpletons who believe in silly hokum pokum.

Let's say for argument sake that 500 years from now people do think the magic is/was real, they will look back on the world not stopping India & China from continued greenhouse emissions as the cause of the failure.

Also there is absolutely no reason that Canada and the USA should tank our economies more so India and China can continue to rake in profits and do more damage to the environment than we are stopping
 

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Climate change is one issue, breathable air is another............




Under the Copenhagen Accord, which Canada signed, the northern country's greenhouse gas emissions are not supposed to exceed 612 megatonnes of CO2 by 2020, or a reduction of 17% below 2005 levels, which is aligned with the US. But according to a report that was just released, the current trends would bring Canada to 734 megatonnes by 2020, or 122 megatonnes over the limit. And those numbers are conservative, as the report assumes increased regulation of the oil and gas sector.

The glass is not entirely empty, though. The report still sees “significant progress” and says emissions would have "risen to 862 megatonnes if no action had been taken by consumers, businesses and governments since 2005." We can wonder how much of that was caused by the worldwide recession that started in 2008-2009.

Still, the fact that the failure could've been even bigger is a small consolation... The atmosphere doesn't care about relative numbers, all it cares about it the absolute number of tonnes of carbon and other greenhouse gases that are pumped in it.


http://www.treehugger.com/environmental-policy/canadas-forecast-exceed-2020-emission-target-122-million-tonnes-co2.html
 

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That global warming is true or false I'm going to do everything possible to burn as much fossil fuel as I possible can. If anyone's unhappy with it I hope he chokes on it.

/Sticks two middle figures up in the air.
 

tay

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That global warming is true or false I'm going to do everything possible to burn as much fossil fuel as I possible can. If anyone's unhappy with it I hope he chokes on it.

/Sticks two middle figures up in the air.





Just don't pour leftover paint down the sink............








Former Harper adviser blasts Keystone XL support

Economist Marc Jaccard calls Canada a 'rogue state' for its pipeline support




A former Harper government appointee used a keynote speech at a Washington event on Monday to trample Canadian authorities' message on oil pipelines while describing the country as an environmental "rogue state."


Mark Jaccard was one of the first people nominated by the Conservatives to the environmental file, when he was named in 2006 to the federal government's now-defunct National Round Table on the Environment and the Economy.


The environmental economist delivered a lengthy rebuke of Canada's climate-change performance at the event near the White House, as the Obama administration continued to grapple with whether to approve the Alberta-U.S. pipeline.


Jaccard, an adviser to different governments and a professor at Simon Fraser University, said he doesn't want the oilsands shut down — he just doesn't want them to grow.




Former Harper adviser blasts Keystone XL support - Business - CBC News
 

petros

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We already pay and they want more?

In Paragraph 42 of the Monterrey Consensus, world leaders reiterated their commitment, stating that “we urge developed countries that have not done so to make concrete efforts towards the target of 0.7 percent of gross national product (GNP) as ODA to developing countries.”

Ours is the first generation in which the world can halve extreme poverty within the 0.7 envelope. In 1975, when the donor world economy was around half its current size, the Millennium Development Goals would have required much more than 1 percent of GNP from the donors. Today, after two and a half decades of sustained economic growth, the Goals are utterly affordable.

The developing world are 1%ers
 

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It's as clear as day - China needs its own Clean Air Act






Visibility in some eastern cities was reduced to less than 50 metres and to less than five metres in the worst hit places, where PM2.5 concentrations hit 500 micrograms per cubic metre. The World Health Organisation's recommended level for the pollutant is 25mcg per cubic metre.


To be sure, air quality in China typically plummets in winter months as the heating systems in cities north of the Yangtze River depend on coal. But the scale and severity of the smog last week was the worst in recent memory as it covered not only the northern cities like Beijing but also a large number of cities south of the Yangtze which do not burn coal for heating, including Shanghai, Nanjing , and other parts of the Yangtze River delta.


According to the national observatory, 104 cities in more than 20 provinces last Friday reported PM2.5 readings at more than 300, classified as severe, the highest in the six-level rating system.


The smog is getting worse daily and reaching almost all corners of the country. Earlier this year, even Hainan , well known for its blue skies and sandy beaches, was covered in heavy smog.


More than 70 per cent of the country's rivers and lakes are heavily polluted and deemed unfit even for animals to drink and much of the country's underground water was also equally polluted.


Media are regularly reporting on diseases linked directly to pollution. Last month it emerged that an eight-year-old girl who lived beside a busy road in Jiangsu had become the mainland's youngest lung cancer patient. Her doctor was quoted as saying her illness was the result of her breathing in pollutants from car exhaust fumes.


Many more mainlanders now say that they want to migrate to other countries and foreign businessmen refuse to relocate to the mainland partly because of the pollution.


The new leadership under President Xi Jinping has shown more willingness to tackle pollution as it tries to slow the breakneck economic growth.


But the efforts have been half-hearted at best. Last month, the Communist Party held its landmark meeting and unveiled its blueprint which was supposed to bring the country's development to a new level.


It indeed contained some exciting grand goals and slogans including allowing the market forces to play "the decisive" role in the economy and boosting mainlanders' living standards. But it contains little on how to tackle environmental degradation.


Last week, photos comparing today's masked mainlanders wallowing in thick smog to the Londoners facing the similar situation in the 1950s and 1960s went viral on the internet. The smog killed thousands of people in Britain before the authorities there took decisive steps to introduce the Clean Air Act to bring pollution under control.




http://www.scmp.com/sites/default/f...2013/12/09/_sha108_39686989.jpg?itok=DnGhUpBC








 

damngrumpy

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Anyone taken a ride through the Rockies from Banff to Jasper? The ice field has been
melting back for over a hundred years so the climate change thing is nothing new.
Climate change has happened for millions of years and continues that is all it is a change.
Are we suggesting we can change it good luck maybe we should stop the tides at the
same time
 

B00Mer

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Anyone taken a ride through the Rockies from Banff to Jasper? The ice field has been
melting back for over a hundred years so the climate change thing is nothing new.
Climate change has happened for millions of years and continues that is all it is a change.
Are we suggesting we can change it good luck maybe we should stop the tides at the
same time

After this winter the Ice Field should be replenished.. you see Dallas today??

We are going into an Ice Age... :lol:

Extreme Winter Weather: Ice Storm Causes Power Outage in Dallas | Video - ABC News

Dallas-Fort Worth cancels flights | Watch the video - Yahoo Finance

Libtard "Global Warming" Alert: Huge Ice Storm Freezes Dallas; 300,000 Lose Power - YouTube



The Day After Tomorrow trailer - YouTube
 

coldstream

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A huge waste of time and money. I didn't see the word 'carbon credits' in the article.. the most rancid and scandalous of all the proposed 'solutions' to the AGW Fraud.. but even accepting the existence of carbon related global warming, in face of overwhelming evidence of its purely fabricated and political origins, is damaging in itself.
 

taxslave

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That's just weather. Don't you know that it is only climate change when it gets a degree or two warmer than last year.