10 Signs That ISIS is a Scripted Psyop

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If Europe lets China have Russian NG then it will be China that develops Africa to come into line with what is being planned for them. If that includes heavy industry to maximize the venture then NG is a better alternative than heavy oil and it would be stupid to run two lines. Petro is on the way out and NG burns quite nicely in turbines. Vapors off Iran's wells would fuel NG lines to China for decades as well as what comes in that general direction from Russia in the near future.

The US could tap the Gulf Stream for power that would last forever and each new generation would do it better and cheaper. The heavier oils keep the bearings greased so it doesn't matter how much engine fuel you have, in the long run.
 

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The war on ISIS already has a winner: The defense industry


The war on ISIS already has a winner: The defense industry - Fortune


Makers of munitions and unmanned aircraft top the list of private-sector beneficiaries.

It’s far too soon to tell how the American escalation in the sprawling, complex mess unfolding in Iraq and Syria will play out. But this much is clear: As our military machine hums into a higher gear, it will produce some winners in the defense industry.

New fights mean new stuff, after all. And following the U.S. withdrawal from Iraq and Afghanistan—and the belt-tightening at the Pentagon imposed by steep budget cuts—military suppliers are lining up to meet a suddenly restored need for their wares. Presenting his vision for expanding the confrontation with the terrorist group ISIS in a speech to the nation on Wednesday night, President Obama outlined a program of intensified airstrikes designed to keep American troops away from the danger on the ground. So defense analysts are pointing to a pair of sure-bet paydays from the new campaign: for those making and maintaining the aircraft, manned and unmanned, that will swarm the skies over the region, and for those producing the missiles and munitions that will arm them.

“The drone builders are going to have a field day,” says Dov Zakheim, who served as Pentagon Comptroller during the George W. Bush administration. That could mean a tidy profit for privately held General Atomics, maker of the Predator drone, the granddaddy in the category and still widely in use, as well as the second-generation Reaper, designed to carry 3,000 pounds worth of bombs. And to help survey vast expanses of desert, the military will rely on the Global Hawk, made by Northrop Grumman NOC 0.45% to hover at altitudes as high as 50,000 feet for up to four days at a time. Those vehicles will likely be making use of the Gorgon Stare. This sensor, developed by privately held Sierra Nevada, is capable of scoping a 4-kilometer diameter by filming with nine cameras.

Indeed, the widening conflict could even reverse the trend of tapering investments in the technology, says Mark Gunzinger, a retired Air Force colonel and former deputy assistant secretary of defense now at the Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessments. “One of the things that can help a new capability break through is an operational stressor, like a major air campaign,” he says.

Smaller players in the space will also get in on the action: Zakheim called out AeroVironment AVAV 1.60% , which manufactures unmanned aerial vehicles small enough to be launched by hand—including the Nano Hummingbird, made to look like its namesake and similarly diminutive, weighing less than a couple of double A batteries. And Jason Gursky, an analyst who covers the industry for Citigroup, identified DigitalGlobe DGI 1.25% , a satellite company whose biggest business is selling non-classified digital imagery to federal agencies. The military will use that range of surveillance capability to pinpoint targets as it broadens its mission.

It is the munitions makers, however, who stand to reap the biggest windfall, especially in the short term. Topping that list is Lockheed Martin LMT 0.67% , producer of the Hellfire missile, a precision weapon that can be launched from multiple platforms, including Predator drones. Raytheon RTN 0.73% , which makes the Tomahawk, a long-range missile launched from the sea, and General Dynamics GD 0.36% , which also has a munitions business, are also well-positioned, analysts say.

“The most obvious cases are what I would call the boots, beans, and bullets trade,” says Ronald Epstein, a Bank of America analyst, pointing to “the guys with shorter backlogs.” That is, shipbuilders can’t expect much work from this conflict, but those supplying the ordnance American forces are already churning through should see new orders. Gunzinger notes that “small diameter bombs could be a huge winner, since aircraft can carry more of them in a single sortie—and they have very accurate seekers, so they can strike targets with less potential for collateral damage.” Tally up another advantage for Raytheon’s product line, among others.

American military operations targeting ISIS have cost some $600 million since mid-June, with the U.S. now spending more than $7.5 million a day on the conflict by the Pentagon’s own accounting. Zakheim estimates that this figure could conceivably double as the operations intensify and the theater widens to Syria, with a significant chunk of the expenditures going to munitions.

The total price tag for the open-ended conflict, expected to be measured in years rather than months, is anybody’s guess. In the immediate term, however, the White House is pressing Congress to approve $500 million to fund the training and equipping of pro-Western rebel groups in Syria. That alone could mean extra work for a wide array of prime defense contractors, according to Gursky. In the longer run, one defense appropriations lobbyist predicts—a hopeful note in his voice: “we’re going to have to bust through the budget caps” imposed on the military by the sequester cuts. “We can’t fight this on the cheap,” he says.

That should mean widely shared benefits for an industry that operates on a “co-opetition” model, in which most big systems include components from several manufacturers—amidst a demand furnished by a rising tide of unrest around the world.

“Let’s paint a picture of the world right now,” Epstein says. “You’ve got the Europeans worried about what the Russians are doing in their backyard; we’ve got our hands full right now in Iraq; you’ve got the Israelis with their hands full in their region; and then you have the Chinese and Japanese in the South China Sea. As an investor, with this much regional conflict in the world, at least from a sentiment point of view, that can’t be bad.”





There's nothing like the profit motive as incentive for creating more war.
 

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You guys all want to know the truth and whether or not this IS thing is some CIA conspiracy or the real deal?


Simple solution:


How about a handful of these crock pots who think it's all fake prove it to us, fly to Iraq, get the nearest transport to the "IS Occupied Areas" go look for some of these IS guys, ask them, then safely travel back, get on a plane, head home and post their findings with video interviews on YouTube for all to see.


That's right, rather than being internet conspiracy wiz kids who seem to know better than everybody else, how about they put their money where their mouth is and prove it.


"Professional Video Editing?"


I can do the same stuff, I have the post secondary education and experience.... I also know how to operate various firearms and alternative weapons, plus hand to hand combat.


If I was young and stupid.... And believed in an extreme interpretation of a religion.... And had a little blood lust, I could probably produce the same things.
 

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Has the ISIS psyop calmed down a bit? Before it dies out let's examine some incredible ironies and oddities surrounding CIA's ISIS. After all, the ISIS psyop deserves a thorough analysis from every angle, so I thought it appropriate to outline for the sake of humanity. Hopefully, humanity can use the ISIS psyop as a tool for the final or further awakening. It may be wishful thinking, but it is worth exposing every crack and corner of this psyop and let government know that we are not going for it this time.

I declare humanity too intuitive to buy into this psychological operation and hopefully I'm right. So while the core TV-watching, mainstream media-believing community drinks the government Kool Aid, let us get started by pointing out several glaring observations regarding the ISIS psyop.

Glancing ahead, the ISIS kids have knowledge of things that require you to have education, modern technical skills, a little bit of decency, structure, conformity to societal norms and somewhat transparent connection to the outside world. What are these things and what are some of the surreal oddities surrounding ISIS? Let's examine:

1. Professional Camera, Editing Software and Skills
2. Professional Image Editing Software and Skills.
3. Internet Connection, Video Uploading Capabilities, and Social Media Accounts.
4. ISIS Intelligence Operation Apparently Far Superior to CIA/Mossad
5. Super Secret Database Holding the Secret Names and Identities of Their Members
6. Anti Surveillance Technology- Able to Avoid All Existing Surveillance
7. Endless Secret Water, Food, Farming and Meals Supply
8. All American Timing! - Common Enemies, Lucky Gift
9. Complete Ongoing Immunity and Hidden Identities
10. Untraceable Money and Endless Spending

analysis here:

Activist Post: 10 Signs That ISIS is a Scripted Psyop


ISIS vs Obama... not hard for ISIS to look better there..



LOL back to blaming Bush.. really has this guy have no pride.

 

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~ ISIS threat grows in Iraq ~



Evidently, Iraq's president doesn't see it that way.




Iraqi President: No Need for Arab Nations to Strike ISIS -- News from Antiwar.com


Iraqi President: No Need for Arab Nations to Strike ISIS
Iraq Not Happy With US Coalition Partnership




by Jason Ditz, September 14, 2014

The Obama Administration’s efforts to cobble together a coalition of nations for the new war on ISIS has netted a handful of Sunni Arab nations willing to conduct airstrikes inside Iraq, including Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, and by some accounts Egypt.

The big problem is that no one asked the Iraqis if they were okay with this, and President Fuad Massoum today made clear that the Iraqi government considers such nations “unnecessary,” which is a polite way of saying extremely unwelcome.

It’s not hard to imagine why, as the Shi’ite dominated Iraqi government, allied with Iran, is not on the best of terms with the Sunni Arab world, and having those nations’ warplanes looming overhead is going to be problematic for Shi’ite leaders.

President Massoum is a Kurd, however, so it is rather surprising that he would be the one vocalizing government disquiet about the US moves to include such nations in the strikes, without consulting the Iraqi government.

Massoum’s comments came in an exclusive interview with the Associated Press, in which he also expressed “regret” that the US was not allowing Iran, the primary nation currently involved in the fight against ISIS in Iraq, to even attend the coalition meeting in Paris.

France had similarly said they wanted to invite Iran to the coalition meeting, though the US insisted it was “not appropriate” to include them. It was seen at the time as a concession to the Sunni Arab nations which the US has been so desperate to include, but seems to be putting the coalition on a rather sectarian-looking footing to the Iraqis, and an unwelcome one at that.

Ever since putting itself on the path to a new war in Iraq, the US has been eager to put on the show of a broad “coalition,” even if it meant many of those coalition members weren’t doing anything. Keeping the Iraqi government more or less on board seems to have fallen by the wayside in favor of getting more members, which is making the US intervention far less comfortable for all involved.
 

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Obama is finding few friends in his quest to fight ISIS:


The Obama Administration's Member-less Coalition Against The Islamic State: What Good Are Allies Anyway? - Forbes



The Obama Administration's Member-less Coalition Against The Islamic State: What Good Are Allies Anyway?

President Barack Obama launched a war which he won’t call a war. He is fighting the Islamic State with a coalition without members. What, one wonders, are allies for?

Washington collects allies like most people collect Facebook friends. The more the merrier. It doesn’t matter if the new “friends” enhance America’s security. It doesn’t even matter if they increase the risk of conflict for the U.S. Washington wants more allies.

The strongest fans of “more is better” believe the U.S. can never do enough for its helpless dependents around the globe. Earlier this year former Sen. Joseph Lieberman complained that the U.S. hadn’t “supported our natural allies,” had “sent a message of uncertainty” making some of them “more anxious” and “infuriating” others. Indeed, these nations “no longer have confidence that we will protect them.” Uh, so what? Why aren’t they defending themselves?

Columnist Michael Barone argued that “The U.S. is abandoning friends.” Foreign Policy’s Kori Schake claimed that the administration is “making America’s allies homesick for the administration of George W. Bush.” The U.S. “is always frustrating to deal with,” but “the president’s supreme indifference” makes the problem worse, she added. Not, however, bad enough for these countries to put in a bit more effort and take over their own defense.

Most striking is how little America’s allies do for the U.S. In the main, their view is that Washington’s job is to defend them. Their job is to be defended by Washington. The idea that America might expect something else in return is considered to be, well, churlish.

For seven decades Washington faced down a nuclear-armed power—the Soviet Union and then Russia—to protect the Europeans. Until 2001 the Europeans did essentially nothing for the U.S. They routinely refused to increase their military outlays; they built a natural gas pipeline to their presumed enemy, the U.S.S.R. The Europeans also interfered with other American objectives, such as ousting communist governments in Cuba and Nicaragua, and refused to allow overflight for U.S. planes to strike Libya, for instance. The Europeans were not necessarily wrong in the positions that they took, but they weren’t very good allies—for the U.S., at least.

To their credit, several of the European states contributed to America’s efforts in Afghanistan and Iraq. Neither invading the latter nor attempting to build a democratic central government in the former made policy sense, but some Europeans actually sacrificed on behalf of a professed U.S. interest.

However, Washington quickly repaid the favor, underwriting Britain’s and France’s war in Libya. This conflict made no sense for America. With the Europeans even running out of missiles (to take on Moammar Qaddafy’s military!) the U.S. became the essential partner in another war that yielded another disastrous failed state.

Now the Europeans want Washington to save Ukraine and “reassure” countries to the east. Exactly why that is necessary when the European Union has a larger GDP and population than America and roughly eight times the economic strength and three times the population as Russia is unclear. However, the U.S. is supposed to accept the possibility of a nuclear exchange to protect countries that are not vital to American security and whose neighbors could defend them.

With the U.S. now calling for assistance against ISIL, the continent has turned more frigid. No one seems interested in joining Washington’s air war, even Great Britain. London offered only logistical assistance. Germany might help arm the Kurds. But when it comes to bombing America’s new enemies America’s old allies apparently “have other priorities,” rather like Richard Cheney during the Vietnam War.



Washington’s Asian friends are even less helpful. For decades Japan wouldn’t aid U.S. forces, even if they were defending Japan. Tokyo certainly would do nothing to promote other U.S. priorities in Asia. And obviously not elsewhere in the world. That changed a little with Iraq, to which Japan send some personnel, though, bizarrely, they weren’t allowed to defend themselves: the Australians and Dutch had to handle that duty. Such a deployment was hardly adequate recompense to America for protecting what long was the world’s second-ranking economic power. Now Washington is expected to stare down the People’s Republic of China to secure Tokyo’s disputed claim to the Senkaku Islands. However, the administration apparently has not asked for any assistance in its “counter-terrorism” operation against the Islamic State. Presumably the answer would be no.

Similar is the case of South Korea. The U.S. defended the Republic of Korea during the Korean War and since then has maintained a “mutual” defense treaty and military garrison. Even as the South swept past North Korea economically America kept the ROK as a defense dependent. Seoul contributed detachments to America’s Afghanistan and Iraq operations, a nice gesture, but little return for decades of protection from Pyongyang, an unpredictable regime steeped in brinkmanship which would not threaten America absent the latter’s alliance with (meaning defense of) the South. The administration also doesn’t appear to have suggested that Seoul add its weight to the anti-ISIL “coalition.”

In contrast, Australia volunteered 600 troops and ten planes. That doesn’t offer much reason for Washington to defend a wealthy nation which could do much more for itself and its region. However, at least Canberra is acting like a real ally.

What about allies in the Middle East? Turkey is a member of NATO, but apparently said no to participation in the new grand coalition and even to American use of Incirlik Air Base. This is the country which allowed Islamic State fighters free access to Syria and has far more at stake in ISIL’s defeat than does America. Indeed, the Islamic State already has many Turks under arms and continues to recruit more; it has kidnapped Turkish diplomats and family members in Iraq and included Turkish territory on its target list. However, Ankara, too, “has other priorities” than assisting the U.S. in cleaning up this mess on Turkey’s border.

What other ally will, well, act like an ally? Iraq’s last prime minister, Nouri al-Maliki, is more responsible for the rise of ISIL than anyone else, except, perhaps, George W. Bush, who ordered the counterproductive invasion of that nation. Baghdad also has the most at stake in overthrowing the Islamic State. The bilateral relationship is entirely one-sided, with the U.S. protecting a government which did much to destroy itself and harm its neighbors.




Saudi Arabia and the Gulf States are little better. The Saudis long have subsidized virulent Wahhabi Islamist teaching around the world. Riyadh has underwritten radical insurgents in Syria. Almost certainly Saudi money has reached the Islamic State. Saudi Arabia’s neighbors, most notably Qatar and the United Arab Emirates, also have played active, though not always positive, roles. Yet there are few nations more at risk from the Islamic State. However limited the group’s military reach, its theological appeal is particularly threatening for what many see as licentious and rapacious apostate regimes. The Arab monarchies look to Washington for their defense—like in the first Gulf War, for instance—but so far have committed little to the battle against ISIL.

The administration claims that Arab states are lining up to join Washington in “taking more aggressive kinetic action,” apparently including bombing the Islamic State. However, the administration won’t give any names or detail any plans. Doing so would be premature, said a State Department official. Let’s see what happens.

The U.S. gets little from its many alliances. Washington is expected to confront Russia, China, Iran, North Korea, the Islamic State, Syria, and anyone else who might misbehave to defend a host of Asian, European, and Middle Eastern nations. Few, if any, can be described as vital to U.S. security. America’s traditional objective of preventing a hostile power from dominating Eurasia remains as important as ever, but today no one threatens to do so.

Equally important, most of these nations are capable of defending themselves. Yet America discourages them from doing more for themselves by promiscuously issuing security guarantees. Why spend money on the military when Washington will do it for you?

Even worse, setting tripwires risks having some of them go off. History is filled with cases where deterrence failed: consider a century ago when an assassination in Sarajevo, Bosnia set off a war that consumed Europe and ensnared Asia and North America. Multiple alliances acted as transmission belts for rather than firebreaks to war. The same could easily happen today. Alas, the U.S. would find conflict with China or Russia far different than war with Serbia or Iraq.

Instead of adding allies, Washington should drop them. Instead of taking on broad, permanent defense obligations to other states, the U.S. should cooperate with other nations on issues of mutual interest. Instead of promiscuously intervening overseas, thereby creating new enemies and encouraging new terrorist attacks, American officials should treat bombing, invading, and occupying other countries as a last resort. Equally important, the U.S. should stop doing for other states what they can and should do for themselves.

These principles apply to the defense of Asia and Europe. They apply even more to Middle Eastern countries versus the Islamic State.

ISIL is evil, but until now, at least, has not been much interested in the U.S. The Islamic State wants to become a traditional government, ruling over a specific territory and population. America is not on its target list. Iraq, Syria, Jordan, and Turkey are. The Sunni group despises Shia majority Iran. ISIL also views the Sunni Gulf States as enemies. Indeed, virtually no one in the region is not targeted by the Islamic State.

So far these countries have fallen short as allies in joining America to challenge ISIL. They are more likely to act for themselves, but only if they must, that is, they cannot rely on Washington to take on their problems as its own. In terms of the Islamic State the U.S. does not need allies. The U.S. needs self-interested nations determined to act on their own behalf.

The administration’s new Middle Eastern war has all the makings of a disaster. The president is launching another attack by Christian America against Arab Muslims. He doesn’t want to call the war a war. He gave the Islamic State advance notice of U.S. bombing, allowing the group to prepare. He put the U.S. in the middle of another bitter sectarian conflict. He is stepping up aid to Syrian rebels, which will weaken the Damascus government and increase the likelihood that ISIL will emerge victorious. He promised to eradicate a new Islamist force after failing to eliminate al-Qaeda, the target of American arms for 13 years. He is relieving a host of “allies” of their responsibility to act on their own behalf.

What could possible go wrong with this approach?

There is much to criticize in the Obama administration’s foreign policy. The non-war war against the Islamic State would be bad enough in the best circumstances. But relying on empty alliances for international assistance exacerbates the potential for failure. Washington should leave responsibility for dealing with the Islamist group to a coalition of the threatened. If those most at risk can’t be bothered to use their abundant power, influence, and resources to protect themselves, they shouldn’t expect Washington to help.







Superbly written and 100% true.
 

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Iraq PM: US Ground Troops Not Welcome Here -- News from Antiwar.com




Iraq PM: US Ground Troops Not Welcome Here
'We Don't Want Them. We Won't Allow Them'





by Jason Ditz, September 17, 2014

In a new interview with the Associated Press, Iraqi Prime Minister Hayder Abadi ruled out any move to send ground troops to Iraq to engage in combat, insisting they would be unwelcome.

“We don’t want them. We won’t allow them,” declared Abadi, who said he was fine with the ongoing US airstrikes against ISIS but found it “puzzling” that the US had excluded Iran from the Paris summit on ISIS Monday.

Abadi’s comments come just days after Iraqi President Massoum had commented that the US recruitment of Saudi Arabia and the UAE to join the air war were likewise unwelcome.

That suggests a growing disconnect between the partnership the Iraqi government is envisioning in the ISIS war, and what the Obama Administration intends to do.

Internally the US appears divided on the ground operation, with President Obama continuing to rule out any ground combat, despite sending 1,600 ground troops, and more and more Pentagon officials saying they believe such a shift is likely or, according to Army Chief Gen. Ray Odierno, inevitable.

That Iraq might not want the US to resume its ground operations in the country doesn’t appear to have entered into the calculation so far, as officials have seemed to take Iraqi acquiescence to whatever they choose to do for granted, thus far without very good results.






Looks like Obama is going to have to depend on the forum's arm chair warriors to do his fighting for him.

Any volunteers out there ???