#1Dec 10th, 2010
Dont mess with a pass rat.
Size means nothing to Rick.
Rick Rypien
Dont mess with a pass rat.
Size means nothing to Rick.
#3
Re: Rick Rypien
Dec 10th, 2010
wondering why you would want to chat about ripien, when he has taken an indefinite leave of absence,
undisclosed personal reasons, the second time he has had to do that.
I wish him well, hope he's back soon, but I'm not thinking of him as a tough guy right now.
undisclosed personal reasons, the second time he has had to do that.
I wish him well, hope he's back soon, but I'm not thinking of him as a tough guy right now.
#5
Re: Rick Rypien
Dec 10th, 2010Quote: Originally Posted by talloola
Well if it's personal then he really doesnt have to disclose why.wondering why you would want to chat about ripien, when he has taken an indefinite leave of absence,
undisclosed personal reasons, the second time he has had to do that.
I wish him well, hope he's back soon, but I'm not thinking of him as a tough guy right now.
Sometimes you have to be tough to do what you have to do.
As he is a local boy I'm sure I could find out but I wont.
Quote: Originally Posted by karrie
Pound for pound he's one of the best fighters in the sport,a real pit bull.His dad was a golden gloves champ so he was taught well and growing up in a mining town gives you some experience.bit of a feisty one. lol.
#6
Re: Rick Rypien
Dec 10th, 2010Quote: Originally Posted by YukonJack
ripien has hockey sklls and skates very well, maybe theProud of a GOON?
Does playing HOCKEY mean anything any more?
discription of a goon contains more these days than just
an air head and the will to fight successfully, players who
have no skills today other than being a fighter, don't makes it
onto the teams, there a few hang overs from a few years ago, but they
are on the way out.
the hockey is better now than 'ever' before. Interesting, as I just
read a interview with gretzky, and he said the same thing.
#7
Re: Rick Rypien
Dec 10th, 2010Quote: Originally Posted by YukonJack
He played in Winnipeg also,thats where he was recognized for his attitude to give 100%.Proud of a GOON?
Does playing HOCKEY mean anything any more?
I think it was Keenan who helped him out.
i'm proud of him for his spirit and standing up to the bigger goons.
#8
Re: Rick Rypien
Dec 10th, 2010Quote: Originally Posted by Kakato
no, I don't want to know his personal business either.Well if it's personal then he really doesnt have to disclose why.
Sometimes you have to be tough to do what you have to do.
As he is a local boy I'm sure I could find out but I wont.
Pound for pound he's one of the best fighters in the sport,a real pit bull.His dad was a golden gloves champ so he was taught well and growing up in a mining town gives you some experience.
#9
Re: Rick Rypien
Dec 10th, 2010
A compilation of some of his fights.
YouTube - Introducing 37 Rick Rypien
#10
Re: Rick Rypien
Dec 10th, 2010
I watched a fight outside the bar one night. No hockey game broke out.
#11
Re: Rick Rypien
Dec 10th, 2010
Goons like this punk caused me to ignore hockey since 1974 when the Philadephia Bullies "WON" the Stanley Cup. Re-inforced by the insanity when they repeated in 1975.
When fighting and goon behaviour becomes acceptable in gymnastics, track and field, archery, skiing, chess and twiddly winks I will be proud of a yahooo like this.
When fighting and goon behaviour becomes acceptable in gymnastics, track and field, archery, skiing, chess and twiddly winks I will be proud of a yahooo like this.
#12
Re: Rick Rypien
Dec 10th, 2010Quote: Originally Posted by YukonJack
Judging by the fans excitement I would say your in a minority then,fighting has and allways will be a part of hockey.People cheer when a fight breaks out for a reason and Rick doesnt throw any cheap shots.I'ts like the fights after school where he grew up,once a guys down the fight's over.He isnt scared to fight anyone regardless of their size.Goons like this punk caused me to ignore hockey since 1974 when the Philadephia Bullies "WON" the Stanley Cup. Re-inforced by the insanity when they repeated in 1975.
When fighting and goon behaviour becomes acceptable in gymnastics, track and field, archery, skiing, chess and twiddly winks I will be proud of a yahooo like this.
You cant compare a sport like hockey to tiddlywinks or chess allthough there has been a few fights involved in every sport you mentioned.
I played right wing for many years and I know that it's hard to keep things under control when someone runs you into the boards with the sole intention of putting you out of the game.
If your tough then you will be singled out,it's like the fastest gunslinger in the old west,beating him gives you instant status.
Lots of folks think Marty Mcsorley was a goon also but I met him and he did more for the sport of hockey then most will ever know just with his support for the farm teams and getting kids into it instead of drugs.
I met all the oilers on a flight to LA once and got pics of Anderson ,mcsorley and even Gretzky in the cockpit of the 747.
They are there to play hockey and if a fight breaks out it's secondary,not one of them said they wanted to play just to fight.
Tom conners said it best in his song the good ol hockey game.
#13
Re: Rick Rypien
Dec 10th, 2010
Kakato, as the old saying goes, to each his own.
I stated my case when I said that hockey lost me forever because of goons like the Philadelphia Bullies then and the Rick Rypiens of today.
The crowd reaction to a fight is not any vindication of the merit of fighting in hockey but more like reflection of the mentality of the crowd. That crowd would nicely fit in with the crowd in ancient Rome who would like to see nothing better than the demise of a losing gladiator.
And remember that hockey was played without fights in Europe and Russia before it was contaminated by the disease of Canadian/North American violence. And lest you forget it, it was quite entertaining and internationally successful.
I stated my case when I said that hockey lost me forever because of goons like the Philadelphia Bullies then and the Rick Rypiens of today.
The crowd reaction to a fight is not any vindication of the merit of fighting in hockey but more like reflection of the mentality of the crowd. That crowd would nicely fit in with the crowd in ancient Rome who would like to see nothing better than the demise of a losing gladiator.
And remember that hockey was played without fights in Europe and Russia before it was contaminated by the disease of Canadian/North American violence. And lest you forget it, it was quite entertaining and internationally successful.
#14
Re: Rick Rypien
Dec 10th, 2010Quote: Originally Posted by YukonJack
I guess you missed the big fight during Canada and Russian juniors.Kakato, as the old saying goes, to each his own.
I stated my case when I said that hockey lost me forever because of goons like the Philadelphia Bullies then and the Rick Rypiens of today.
The crowd reaction to a fight is not any vindication of the merit of fighting in hockey but more like reflection of the mentality of the crowd. That crowd would nicely fit in with the crowd in ancient Rome who would like to see nothing better than the demise of a losing gladiator.
And remember that hockey was played without fights in Europe and Russia before it was contaminated by the disease of Canadian/North American violence. And lest you forget it, it was quite entertaining and internationally successful.
They have allways fought,as far back as Russian games have been televised they fought.
Pretty hard to blame Canadian and Americans for fighting when lots of the fighters here came from Europe and Russia.
You cant blame Canadians and Americans for this,russias been doing it just as long as anyone.
httpwwwyoutubecomwatchvMlf4C0qNm0w
#15
Re: Rick Rypien
Dec 10th, 2010
Yeah, Kakato, I missed it, because like I said I lost interest in hockey of all kinds in 1974. Or 1975 to be more charitable.
If you want to prove that fighting is necessary in hockey please refer to the 1972 series between Canada and the Soviet Union.
Which was the BEST hockey the world had ever seen at that point in history and the best it will ever see, in spite of some great individual talents since then, like Wayne Gretzky or that guy in Pittsburgh.
Or even Rick Rypien.
If you want to prove that fighting is necessary in hockey please refer to the 1972 series between Canada and the Soviet Union.
Which was the BEST hockey the world had ever seen at that point in history and the best it will ever see, in spite of some great individual talents since then, like Wayne Gretzky or that guy in Pittsburgh.
Or even Rick Rypien.
#16
Re: Rick Rypien
Dec 10th, 2010
Who can ever forget this huge hockey brawl?
YouTube - kids hockey fight
#17
Re: Rick Rypien
Dec 10th, 2010
Those kids must be real proud.
But not any prouder than the "parents"(?) who taught them be be thugs at the earliest age possible.
But not any prouder than the "parents"(?) who taught them be be thugs at the earliest age possible.
#18
Re: Rick Rypien
Dec 10th, 2010Quote: Originally Posted by YukonJack
I see your point Y.J. hockey skills require a lot more talent than fighting skills. BUT you and I ain't going to change anything, so why not take what enjoyment you can get where you can? I was watching a boxing match years ago when all of a sudden a hockey game broke out..........Kakato, as the old saying goes, to each his own.
I stated my case when I said that hockey lost me forever because of goons like the Philadelphia Bullies then and the Rick Rypiens of today.
The crowd reaction to a fight is not any vindication of the merit of fighting in hockey but more like reflection of the mentality of the crowd. That crowd would nicely fit in with the crowd in ancient Rome who would like to see nothing better than the demise of a losing gladiator.
And remember that hockey was played without fights in Europe and Russia before it was contaminated by the disease of Canadian/North American violence. And lest you forget it, it was quite entertaining and internationally successful.
+1
#19 Top Rated PostRe: Rick Rypien
Dec 10th, 2010Quote: Originally Posted by YukonJack
even if there was no fighting at all, the northamerican game is much more exciting than any european hockey.Kakato, as the old saying goes, to each his own.
I stated my case when I said that hockey lost me forever because of goons like the Philadelphia Bullies then and the Rick Rypiens of today.
The crowd reaction to a fight is not any vindication of the merit of fighting in hockey but more like reflection of the mentality of the crowd. That crowd would nicely fit in with the crowd in ancient Rome who would like to see nothing better than the demise of a losing gladiator.
And remember that hockey was played without fights in Europe and Russia before it was contaminated by the disease of Canadian/North American violence. And lest you forget it, it was quite entertaining and internationally successful.
just ask players, as they would much rather play on the small ice, faster game, more contact, no
time to skate very far with the puck, must pass it, no comparison
europelan hockey is very vanilla.
the olympics was very exciting, 'but' played on the small ice surface, big difference.
Quote: Originally Posted by YukonJack
Idon't mind the odd fight in a game, sometimes games are a little too mechanical, teams are feeling eachYeah, Kakato, I missed it, because like I said I lost interest in hockey of all kinds in 1974. Or 1975 to be more charitable.
If you want to prove that fighting is necessary in hockey please refer to the 1972 series between Canada and the Soviet Union.
Which was the BEST hockey the world had ever seen at that point in history and the best it will ever see, in spite of some great individual talents since then, like Wayne Gretzky or that guy in Pittsburgh.
Or even Rick Rypien.
other out, or the usual spark just isn't there, all of a sudden two guys 'who sense this', have a fight,
the crowd comes to their feet, and the benches are all on their feet, and the game immediately changes,
the spark arrives, and the game continues without any more fights, at a much more passionate level, and
more enjoyable for players and fans.
The game now, is nothing at all like back in the seventies and eighties, totally different, and if you
gave up the game then, you know nothing about todays hockey, because you don't watch it.
+1
#20Re: Rick Rypien
Dec 10th, 2010Quote: Originally Posted by talloola
The European game is superior. The only problem with it is that money brings all the big names to North America so the product is even more diluted than the NHL. Cut the number of NHL teams in half and play with European rules and rinks.....dare to dream.even if there was no fighting at all, the northamerican game is much more exciting than any european hockey.
just ask players, as they would much rather play on the small ice, faster game, more contact, no
time to skate very far with the puck, must pass it, no comparison
europelan hockey is very vanilla.
#21
Re: Rick Rypien
Dec 10th, 2010Quote: Originally Posted by Kakato
Thats the problem - bread and circuses - watch European hockey a hell of a ,ot better than fight noghts - the game is to skate, pass and shoot, maybe score - If you want boxing go to a fight. Not cheap hits that end players careers or send them off for the rest of the season.Judging by the fans excitement I would say your in a minority then,fighting has and allways will be a part of hockey.People cheer when a fight breaks out for a reason and Rick doesnt throw any cheap shots.I'ts like the fights after school where he grew up,once a guys down the fight's over.He isnt scared to fight anyone regardless of their size.
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You cant compare a sport like hockey to tiddlywinks or chess allthough there has been a few fights involved in every sport you mentioned.
I played right wing for many years and I know that it's hard to keep things under control when someone runs you into the boards with the sole intention of putting you out of the game.
If your tough then you will be singled out,it's like the fastest gunslinger in the old west,beating him gives you instant status.
Lots of folks think Marty Mcsorley was a goon also but I met him and he did more for the sport of hockey then most will ever know just with his support for the farm teams and getting kids into it instead of drugs.
I met all the oilers on a flight to LA once and got pics of Anderson ,mcsorley and even Gretzky in the cockpit of the 747.
They are there to play hockey and if a fight breaks out it's secondary,not one of them said they wanted to play just to fight.
Tom conners said it best in his song the good ol hockey game.
I watch hockey to see them playing not for stupid ass fighting and cheap shots.
+1
#22Re: Rick Rypien
Dec 11th, 2010
you guys who 'don't watch the game, and haven't for a long time, don't have a clue, and if I didn't
watch wrestling for 20 years I wouldn't be telling others how the game is, only was.
to begin with, the game is fun, fast, rough, tough, a contact sport, they are suppose to hit each other,
there are some fights, but the game is not a game of goonish play and fighting, that is the smallest
part of the game.
it is fun to play, and fun to watch, exciting to watch, exciting to play.
no, the european game is not better, only more mechanical and much less exciting.
if you like non contact play, slower game, and bigger ice, so that players 'can stay away'
from each other more, then it is the european game you should watch.
not near as much hitting, (body checking), and not near as fast. BUT you will see more
cheap shots when play is in close, just watch the sticks, the europeans, and especially the
russians, use those sticks as weapons when playing in close, if you've missed that, then your
not watching.
In the NHL, you are immediately penalied if you start using the stick as a weapon.
In the new NHL you must keep your stick off of the opponant, and if you touch yor
stick, (with it in a horizontal position), on or around the upper body of the opponant, it is immediately a hooking penalty,one cannot hold or pin a player to
the boards for more than a nano second, or he will be penalized, hence the game
keeps moving at a fast pace, it is very exciting and fast.
The players are more talented than
ever before, and goons cannot make the teams now, they must be players first and
foremost, and if a few of them fight once in a while, so be it, that is not dirty
play, it is an agreement between two players, and immediately stopped by linesmen
at a point of good judgement.
I mentioned once before, that I saw naslund interviewed about the comparison of european games
to north american games, he said there was no comparison, he loves the north american game, it
is much more fun to play with the smaller ice surface and more contact and faster.
watch wrestling for 20 years I wouldn't be telling others how the game is, only was.
to begin with, the game is fun, fast, rough, tough, a contact sport, they are suppose to hit each other,
there are some fights, but the game is not a game of goonish play and fighting, that is the smallest
part of the game.
it is fun to play, and fun to watch, exciting to watch, exciting to play.
no, the european game is not better, only more mechanical and much less exciting.
if you like non contact play, slower game, and bigger ice, so that players 'can stay away'
from each other more, then it is the european game you should watch.
not near as much hitting, (body checking), and not near as fast. BUT you will see more
cheap shots when play is in close, just watch the sticks, the europeans, and especially the
russians, use those sticks as weapons when playing in close, if you've missed that, then your
not watching.
In the NHL, you are immediately penalied if you start using the stick as a weapon.
In the new NHL you must keep your stick off of the opponant, and if you touch yor
stick, (with it in a horizontal position), on or around the upper body of the opponant, it is immediately a hooking penalty,one cannot hold or pin a player to
the boards for more than a nano second, or he will be penalized, hence the game
keeps moving at a fast pace, it is very exciting and fast.
The players are more talented than
ever before, and goons cannot make the teams now, they must be players first and
foremost, and if a few of them fight once in a while, so be it, that is not dirty
play, it is an agreement between two players, and immediately stopped by linesmen
at a point of good judgement.
I mentioned once before, that I saw naslund interviewed about the comparison of european games
to north american games, he said there was no comparison, he loves the north american game, it
is much more fun to play with the smaller ice surface and more contact and faster.
Last edited by talloola; Dec 11th, 2010 at 12:30 AM..
#24
Re: Rick Rypien
Dec 11th, 2010
I've been watching a bunch of old games on (I think) yahoo. Today's game is leaps and bounds tougher than anything in the 70's. Watch the Flyers vs Red Army game (January 1976). It looks like touch hockey compared to how it's played now, even though it was the poster child for thuggery. That Flyers team wouldn't last a period in the NHL right now.
As Talloola said, the NHL game today is faster, tougher, better etc than any hockey played anytime and anywhere.
Rypien's Uncle is ex-Washington Redskin QB Mark Rypien.
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As Talloola said, the NHL game today is faster, tougher, better etc than any hockey played anytime and anywhere.
Rypien's Uncle is ex-Washington Redskin QB Mark Rypien.
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#25
Re: Rick Rypien
Dec 11th, 2010Quote: Originally Posted by Kreskin
yeah, I just watched edmonton play tampa bay and calgary play anaheim, none of those teams are the eliteI've been watching a bunch of old games on (I think) yahoo. Today's game is leaps and bounds tougher than anything in the 70's. Watch the Flyers vs Red Army game (January 1976). It looks like touch hockey compared to how it's played now, even though it was the poster child for thuggery. That Flyers team wouldn't last a period in the NHL right now.
As Talloola said, the NHL game today is faster, tougher, better etc than any hockey played anytime and anywhere.
of the NHL this year, but both games were fun to watch, fast and furious, the players worked so hard,
skated so hard, end to end, much better games than anything in the 70's.
No clutching and grabbing, no stick on bodies, I think there was one fight between the two games, but I
am not absolutely sure of that, only remember one.
Goalies are the best they have ever been, it is so hard to score now, a goal is the result of very hard
work, good passing, or just puck luck, none of them come easy at any time.
Our game has come a long way, it is in good shape, now if the commissioner could just get his act together
and put teams where they belong in the two countries, all would be well.
#26
Re: Rick Rypien
Dec 11th, 2010
I don't know why anybody would be comparing NHL hockey today to the 70's NHL. Anybody that knows anything about hockey knows that when the NHL followed the Winnipeg Jets lead and moved towards the European game, the result was the wide open, high offense game experienced in the 1980's. The 80's gave us the 87 Canada Cup, the Oilers dynasty, the Penguins, the Isles and goals galore.
Anybody that has played the game loves to score. It's laughable to suggest the players enjoy playing in today's low scoring games compared to the 80's European, high flying style.
Anybody that has played the game loves to score. It's laughable to suggest the players enjoy playing in today's low scoring games compared to the 80's European, high flying style.
#27
Re: Rick Rypien
Dec 11th, 2010Quote: Originally Posted by Cannuck
Anyone who watches the 80's games will see defensive holes all over the ice. Todays teams would blow out anyone playing like that today.I don't know why anybody would be comparing NHL hockey today to the 70's NHL. Anybody that knows anything about hockey knows that when the NHL followed the Winnipeg Jets lead and moved towards the European game, the result was the wide open, high offense game experienced in the 1980's. The 80's gave us the 87 Canada Cup, the Oilers dynasty, the Penguins, the Isles and goals galore.
Anybody that has played the game loves to score. It's laughable to suggest the players enjoy playing in today's low scoring games compared to the 80's European, high flying style.
#28
Re: Rick Rypien
Dec 11th, 2010Quote: Originally Posted by Kreskin
Probably. Your point?Anyone who watches the 80's games will see defensive holes all over the ice. Todays teams would blow out anyone playing like that today.
#29
Re: Rick Rypien
Dec 11th, 2010Quote: Originally Posted by Cannuck
To butt in, that may have something to do with the high scores you speak of in the 80s. Probably. Your point?
Remember offense is only half the game. #30
Re: Rick Rypien
Dec 11th, 2010Quote: Originally Posted by JLM
To butt in, that may have something to do with the high scores you speak of in the 80s.
Ummm...I understand what he said....just not sure how it relates to what I said (given that he quoted me). If his post suggest that defensive holes = worse hockey, then I disagree. Hockey is entertainment and 80's hockey full of defensive holes was far more entertaining than the current NHL product. Hell, major junior hockey is better than the current professional product. That is why the NHL is changing rules, trying to increase the amount of scoring chances.
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