Theists and atheists( P.S.)

MHz
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lol, there is no soft sell, a lot of very bad stuff will happen before then. You belong to the the Nations so if you happen to be alive you can expect to see or be a part of the dead. His choice, not yours.

Jer.25:32
Thus saith the LORD of hosts,
Behold,
evil shall go forth from nation to nation,
and a great whirlwind shall be raised up from the coasts of the earth.
Jer.25:33
And the slain of the LORD shall be at that day from one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth:
they shall not be lamented,
neither gathered,
nor buried;
they shall be dung upon the ground.

Quote: Originally Posted by CorduroyView Post

God's still a jerk in the NT. It isn't until the NT that we are introduced to a physical Hell of eternal torture or the chaos and destruction of the apocalypse.

Since you have said that debate can strengthen your arguments would you expand on how you arrived at hell being eternal?

The verses I can provide show that somew enter there after they taste death. True it is a place of punishment but it is not eternal punishment, when released from hell for the Great White Throne event they have served their while time. If that is the fate of the ones that actually are prepared for war when He arrives then why would a non-believer suffer a worse fate.

You are right, if you are looking for a kinder gentler God the Christ is not going to impress you at the beginning of the day He arrives, by the end of the day your opinion might have changed.

Zec.13:8
And it shall come to pass,
that in all the land,
saith the LORD,
two parts therein shall be cut off and die;
but the third shall be left therein.
 
darkbeaver
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#32
The conflict between theists and atheists is permanent. It's the interface between energy and matter.
 
Cliffy
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talloola
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#34
I have been on this earth for 72 years, and in all of that time, (along with the ramblings of different
religious beliefs) NOTHING has ever happened to even make me blink and wonder.

I see that many others believe in a spiritual world, good for them, but they don't live where I live
'mentally', they are very different than I. I see nothing in a spiritual way, (religiously speaking), but
I do have strong spiritual feelings toward the earth and its natural abundance of life. There is nothing
invisible about that, I can see it all, live in all of it, be nurtured by it, and live off of it, I have
never gathered anything interesting or positive or helpful from the invisible, so I don't wonder what
is there, that I cannot see, there is nothing, so I'm certainly not going to pray to 'it', and make up
something that isn't.

There is NO god anywhere judging me or anyone else, threatening, demanding, those are all rules
made up by man 'along' the way, and different men have different rules, depending on their own religion.

Its all silly, and I don't care or desire to argue one against the other, as in my
life there is no arguement, I don't argue with concrete, might as well beat your head against it, I have much more meaningful things
to do with my time than try to change their minds, they can believe what they want,
doesn't matter to me, as I stated before, I am thankful and happy to be where I am,
and not where they are, it is scary to think that I 'could' believe what they believe, if I was a different sort,
just as scary as the worst nightmare I have ever experienced.
No, even worse that that, because I can wake up from a nightmare, and realize that
it was all just a dream, and have my life back again.
Last edited by talloola; Aug 28th, 2011 at 01:33 AM..
 
Corduroy
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