#1May 30th, 2011
People who pass along dire predictions from God.
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May 30th, 2011
I cannot understand why some people think they speak for god and secondly, if there is a god, that they somehow know his will.
The Phelp family is infamous for the sort of behavior you describe, not that they are a typical Christians though, not by any means.
The Phelp family is infamous for the sort of behavior you describe, not that they are a typical Christians though, not by any means.
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May 30th, 2011
It is not only Christians. Let us not forget our very own Muslim Doom Sayer, eanassir. I would have to say insecurity is the main reason. By being a messenger of god they lift themselves out of their mediocrity, at least in their own minds. Negative responses from their audience also helps them feel superior and sleep at night knowing god is on their side.
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May 30th, 2011Quote: Originally Posted by JLM
Fear... it is the old way to recruit Christians. Born Again Christians do it all the time. Everyone is going to Hell... except them.It is not uncommon to hear peolple say such things as God will smite us or someone is destined to go to Hell. What type of people peddle this malarky? Is it an act of cruelty, or insecurity or a feeling of self importance or what? Why are these people not able to see how ridiculous they are. If God were to select certain people to pass along messages, do you think for a minute he would select trouble makers? Believing in God is one thing, ramming it down people's is something else entirely.
A Marine I was stationed with used to preach like this to us. Yet he was the one of the biggest user of women and was a big boozer. One day in the barracks we were all giving him a hard time about his preaching. I said to him...
"You are the craziest boozer in here and every weekend you're on the prowl looking for women to F*** and dump. You don't have any where near the morals of half the guys here. What makes you think you're going to Heaven and we're going to hell?"
"I'm saved... you are not."
My 2 cents
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May 30th, 2011
Saves carrying your own big stick....
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#6 Top Rated PostRe: People who pass along dire predictions from God.
May 30th, 2011
The French essayist Michel de Montaigne noted about 500 years ago that it's the most sanctimonious people who perpetrate the worst sins, what he called the association between supercelestial thought and subterranean behaviour. I think it comes from belief in the divinely sanctioned certainty of being right. People haven't changed much.
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May 30th, 2011Quote: Originally Posted by JLM
According to the way the Bible puts it, it isn't malarky at all. It's also quite specific about who qualifies and who doesn't, perhaps that is what you might not fully understand at the moment (you being hostile is my first clue that all is not well) Choices make the difference and in most cases somebody else will be making the choices rather than everybody doing it for themselves. When God smites somebody it is no more serious to their salvation than a parent sending their child to his room for an hour before supper because of his bad behavior. The child is still at the table at supper and the incident is over and done with. If anybody tells you it is not that way they are bulls****ting you and since you don't already know that you might be one of the ones that comes in 2nd. In this two man race you still get the silver ribbon, what were you told to expect, if you don't mind me asking,?It is not uncommon to hear peolple say such things as God will smite us or someone is destined to go to Hell. What type of people peddle this malarky?
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#8Re: People who pass along dire predictions from God.
May 30th, 2011Quote: Originally Posted by MHz
"The Bible puts it"....................the Bible was written by man, NOT God!According to the way the Bible puts it, it isn't malarky at all. It's also quite specific about who qualifies and who doesn't, perhaps that is what you might not fully understand at the moment (you being hostile is my first clue that all is not well) Choices make the difference and in most cases somebody else will be making the choices rather than everybody doing it for themselves. When God smites somebody it is no more serious to their salvation than a parent sending their child to his room for an hour before supper because of his bad behavior. The child is still at the table at supper and the incident is over and done with. If anybody tells you it is not that way they are bulls****ting you and since you don't already know that you might be one of the ones that comes in 2nd. In this two man race you still get the silver ribbon, what were you told to expect, if you don't mind me asking,?
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May 30th, 2011Quote: Originally Posted by MHz
That's the Christianity interpretation, I love how the various religions compete over which is the "true" one. According to the way the Bible puts it, it isn't malarky at all. It's also quite specific about who qualifies and who doesn't, perhaps that is what you might not fully understand at the moment (you being hostile is my first clue that all is not well) Choices make the difference and in most cases somebody else will be making the choices rather than everybody doing it for themselves. When God smites somebody it is no more serious to their salvation than a parent sending their child to his room for an hour before supper because of his bad behavior. The child is still at the table at supper and the incident is over and done with. If anybody tells you it is not that way they are bulls****ting you and since you don't already know that you might be one of the ones that comes in 2nd. In this two man race you still get the silver ribbon, what were you told to expect, if you don't mind me asking,?
I also scoff at the idea that "god" gives two shytes as to what the average person does on earth. If he did, a whole lot of his early supporters would be rotting in hell, considering what they did in his name.
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May 30th, 2011
Whatever, why get upset over something you don't believe in then. If somebody tells me I have a low tire and I 'know' they are all at the right pressure I don't have to have my day ruined. BTW what the **** are you doing in the religious part of the site posting threads for anyway. let alone caring about a place called hell.
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May 30th, 2011Quote: Originally Posted by DurkaDurka
What makes you think false Christians don't get punished more than an Atheist (how would qualify as a 'good neighbor)?That's the Christianity interpretation, I love how the various religions compete over which is the "true" one.
I also scoff at the idea that "god" gives two shytes as to what the average person does on earth. If he did, a whole lot of his early supporters would be rotting in hell, considering what they did in his name.
At some point a fork in the road can make a difference on how the rest of the journey is going to go even though the final destination is the same in both cases. That same pattern is also applied to angelic beings.
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#13Re: People who pass along dire predictions from God.
May 30th, 2011Quote: Originally Posted by MHz
So the Pope and the followers that were involved in the Crusades are false Christians?What makes you think false Christians don't get punished more than an Atheist (how would qualify as a 'good neighbor)?
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May 30th, 2011Quote: Originally Posted by MHz
I wasn't aware that there is some sort of entry requirements for who is and who is not allowed to post in this area.. BTW what the **** are you doing in the religious part of the site posting threads for anyway. let alone caring about a place called hell.
Can you quote the parts of the forum rules that specify such things?
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May 30th, 2011Quote: Originally Posted by MHz
BTW what the **** are you doing in the religious part of the site posting threads for anyway. let alone caring about a place called hell.
If they didn't come in here and post, they wouldn't be able to bitch and complain about having religion "shoved down their throats".
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#16Re: People who pass along dire predictions from God.
May 30th, 2011Quote: Originally Posted by gerryh
I don't see why you are getting worked up about this thread, Gerry, especially considering it wasn't created by one of the righteous one's.If they didn't come in here and post, they wouldn't be able to bitch and complain about having religion "shoved down their throats".
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May 30th, 2011
not getting upset, just having a good chuckle.
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May 30th, 2011Quote: Originally Posted by TenPenny
I can see if it theire was some recent specific event, the concept of hell is rather 'generalized' topic for somebody who has no real use for the Bible, or enough to find out the answers for himself. Is that not a valid question, the answer might help me decide om whether I want to stay on the thread, or not. I doubt he will even tell me where he got his current view of what hell even is. Not a requirement but it is still information I would find helpful at this particular point.I wasn't aware that there is some sort of entry requirements for who is and who is not allowed to post in this area.
Can you quote the parts of the forum rules that specify such things?
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#19Re: People who pass along dire predictions from God.
May 30th, 2011Quote: Originally Posted by gerryh
I thought this was pretty tame compared to some of the other threads involving religionnot getting upset, just having a good chuckle.
Quote: Originally Posted by MHz
Do you 100% know what hell is?I can see if it theire was some recent specific event, the concept of hell is rather 'generalized' topic for somebody who has no real use for the Bible, or enough to find out the answers for himself. Is that not a valid question, the answer might help me decide om whether I want to stay on the thread, or not. I doubt he will even tell me where he got his current view of what hell even is. Not a requirement but it is still information I would find helpful at this particular point.
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May 30th, 2011Quote: Originally Posted by DurkaDurka
The Pope doesn't qualify as being the one given the sword in Romans 13 and drowning somebody to see if they are a witch or not would seem to be a violation of the 'do unto others as you would have then do to you (given the real opportunity) Law'. Do you see it as being more complicated than that, if you the separation parameters of Matthew 25 is for the Nations, not the church. The Church will be tried according to the guidelines in the 7 letters.So the Pope and the followers that were involved in the Crusades are false Christians?
Quote: Originally Posted by DurkaDurka
Just as sure as I am that you don't want to cover every aspect on what I have 'explored' that would allow me to reach that conclusion. That has to be very close to the same number. (if not higher lol)Do you 100% know what hell is?
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May 30th, 2011
Clearly, a better solution was needed. At the next meeting of the Philosophy Club, the Webmaster asked his fellow members about the aforementioned duty of his office. Pete suggested a service provided by a philosophy website. That site sends daily e-mails of philosophy quotes. The Webmaster thought about this solution. It would save him the time of finding a philosophical quote, but he would still be required to post it everyday
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#22Re: People who pass along dire predictions from God.
May 30th, 2011Quote: Originally Posted by gerryh
Really, it isn't "religion" per say ... it's all the religions that proclaim themselves as absolute Truth and Damn anyone else who dares to believe outside the box - their own little boxes. One can have Christ without Church and peace of mind without being controlled.If they didn't come in here and post, they wouldn't be able to bitch and complain about having religion "shoved down their throats".
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Re: People who pass along dire predictions from God.
May 30th, 2011Quote: Originally Posted by JLM
They're sadists.It is not uncommon to hear peolple say such things as God will smite us or someone is destined to go to Hell. What type of people peddle this malarky? Is it an act of cruelty, or insecurity or a feeling of self importance or what?
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May 30th, 2011Quote: Originally Posted by lone wolf
One can have Christ without Church and peace of mind without being controlled.
Yup, that's right.
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May 30th, 2011
Jesus Saves....
Moses Invests...
Moses Invests...
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May 30th, 2011Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmack
Yeah my old supervisor back in Canada was a "Born Again Christian" and was a tad bit out there with his beliefs and a couple of times tried to pull the recruiting thing on me.... yet while myself and others at work would offer a box of doughnuts or coffee to everybody around, or there was a lunch bbq or tossing around cards for birthdays etc.... he was right there to suck it all up, eat as much as he could, complain when he didn't get a card or didn't get his coffee or his 2 doughnuts, or the pizza he liked the most was eaten before he came down 30 minutes after everybody was already there...... and if you came into work from lunch carrying some chinese food, etc..... he'd pressure you to give him your egg roll or something else you paid for because he simply loved them and tried to make up a "rule" that anybody who came in with chinese food had to give him an egg roll..... Fear... it is the old way to recruit Christians. Born Again Christians do it all the time. Everyone is going to Hell... except them.
A Marine I was stationed with used to preach like this to us. Yet he was the one of the biggest user of women and was a big boozer. One day in the barracks we were all giving him a hard time about his preaching. I said to him...
"You are the craziest boozer in here and every weekend you're on the prowl looking for women to F*** and dump. You don't have any where near the morals of half the guys here. What makes you think you're going to Heaven and we're going to hell?"
"I'm saved... you are not."
My 2 cents
but the moment you asked him for anything, or the moment you asked if he'd offer something of his..... it'd never happen.
He'd have an opinion about what everybody else did in their own personal lives and get on his high horse about what others should do, but then turn around and try & flirt badly with the girls at work or try to hit on them..... checked them out all the time...... someone married with a kid mind you..... and one of the girls I worked with mentioned his made a bit of an "Indencent Proposal" once..... which wasn't too hard to believe.
Born Again Christian indeed.
Many of these people who call themselves Christians, are Christians in name only and use it as a backup for all the crap they do in their lives, as they think they'll still have a free ticket into heaven so long as they "Believe" and go to church every Sunday.
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May 30th, 2011
This just in from God:
"Piss off I'm watching Telly!"
"Piss off I'm watching Telly!"
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May 30th, 2011Quote: Originally Posted by MHz
I think you're the one doing the Bullsh*tting here, since you don't know anymore or any less then anybody else in here what God does or doesn't do.According to the way the Bible puts it, it isn't malarky at all. It's also quite specific about who qualifies and who doesn't, perhaps that is what you might not fully understand at the moment (you being hostile is my first clue that all is not well) Choices make the difference and in most cases somebody else will be making the choices rather than everybody doing it for themselves. When God smites somebody it is no more serious to their salvation than a parent sending their child to his room for an hour before supper because of his bad behavior. The child is still at the table at supper and the incident is over and done with. If anybody tells you it is not that way they are bulls****ting you and since you don't already know that you might be one of the ones that comes in 2nd. In this two man race you still get the silver ribbon, what were you told to expect, if you don't mind me asking,?
You talk as if you know exactly how God Smites someone, when you don't even know if he smites anybody in the first place..... let alone if he exists.
And none of what you just said justifies others shoving their finger in someone else's face and telling them they're going to hell..... and if they think they're doing someone else a favor by doing this, then they're more deluded then I originally thought.
Quote: Originally Posted by MHz
People aren't upset over something they don't believe in, they're upset over people like you wagging your holier-than-thou finger in their face and preaching like you know anything at all.Whatever, why get upset over something you don't believe in then.
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You might have hit a nail or have a leak in a tire and thus, they'd be right & it wouldn't hurt to check, you know? It's not just for your safety, but those around you.If somebody tells me I have a low tire and I 'know' they are all at the right pressure I don't have to have my day ruined.
..... which has no relation to the topic at hand and a pointless tangent.
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Quit your bitching.... last I checked, people can come in here and talk about their beliefs or lack there of.... of religion & spirituality..... it all belongs in here, your most Righteous & Holy Owner of the Forums.BTW what the **** are you doing in the religious part of the site posting threads for anyway. let alone caring about a place called hell.
Great debating skills you have there...... if you can't refute or debate an argument, you try and make others leave or say they're not allowed to come in.
Boys only!!
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May 30th, 2011Quote: Originally Posted by Praxius
You have that right, giving some reason why my view isn't supported by the Bible would have been more helpful that the hinge point being the validity of your own 'knowledge', please include the below references in your rebuttal.I think you're the one doing the Bullsh*tting here, since you don't know anymore or any less then anybody else in here what God does or doesn't do.
You talk as if you know exactly how God Smites someone, when you don't even know if he smites anybody in the first place..... let alone if he exists.
And none of what you just said justifies others shoving their finger in someone else's face and telling them they're going to hell..... and if they think they're doing someone else a favor by doing this, then they're more deluded then I originally thought.
Re.19:21
And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse,
which sword proceeded out of his mouth:
and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.
Isa.65:12
Therefore will I number you to the sword,
and ye shall all bow down to the slaughter:
because when I called, ye did not answer;
when I spake,
ye did not hear;
but did evil before mine eyes,
and did choose that wherein I delighted not.
Jer.25:32:
Thus saith the LORD of hosts,
Behold,
evil shall go forth from nation to nation,
and a great whirlwind shall be raised up from the coasts of the earth.
Jer.25:33
And the slain of the LORD shall be at that day from one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth:
they shall not be lamented,
neither gathered,
nor buried;
they shall be dung upon the ground.
Zec.13:8
And it shall come to pass,
that in all the land,
saith the LORD,
two parts therein shall be cut off and die;
but the third shall be left therein.
Zec.13:9
And I will bring the third part through the fire,
and will refine them as silver is refined,
and will try them as gold is tried:
they shall call on my name,
and I will hear them:
I will say,
It is my people:
and they shall say,
The LORD is my God.
There are also just as many references to show that the 'punishment' is a cleansing step it also has a set time limit. If you or others don't know that part, or reject it out of hand as being what the Bible promotes that is your concern, not mine.,
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