People who pass along dire predictions from God.

[JLM]

It is not uncommon to hear peolple say such things as God will smite us or someone is destined to go to Hell. What type of people peddle this malarky? Is it an act of cruelty, or insecurity or a feeling of self importance or what? Why are these people not able to see how ridiculous they are. If God were to select certain people to pass along messages, do you think for a minute he would select trouble makers? Believing in God is one thing, ramming it down people's is something else entirely.

 

[DurkaDurka]

I cannot understand why some people think they speak for god and secondly, if there is a god, that they somehow know his will.

The Phelp family is infamous for the sort of behavior you describe, not that they are a typical Christians though, not by any means.

 

[Cliffy]

It is not only Christians. Let us not forget our very own Muslim Doom Sayer, eanassir. I would have to say insecurity is the main reason. By being a messenger of god they lift themselves out of their mediocrity, at least in their own minds. Negative responses from their audience also helps them feel superior and sleep at night knowing god is on their side.

 

[EagleSmack]

It is not uncommon to hear peolple say such things as God will smite us or someone is destined to go to Hell. What type of people peddle this malarky? Is it an act of cruelty, or insecurity or a feeling of self importance or what? Why are these people not able to see how ridiculous they are. If God were to select certain people to pass along messages, do you think for a minute he would select trouble makers? Believing in God is one thing, ramming it down people's is something else entirely.

Fear... it is the old way to recruit Christians. Born Again Christians do it all the time. Everyone is going to Hell... except them.

A Marine I was stationed with used to preach like this to us. Yet he was the one of the biggest user of women and was a big boozer. One day in the barracks we were all giving him a hard time about his preaching. I said to him...

"You are the craziest boozer in here and every weekend you're on the prowl looking for women to F*** and dump. You don't have any where near the morals of half the guys here. What makes you think you're going to Heaven and we're going to hell?"

"I'm saved... you are not."

My 2 cents

 

[lone wolf]

Saves carrying your own big stick....

 

[Dexter Sinister]

The French essayist Michel de Montaigne noted about 500 years ago that it's the most sanctimonious people who perpetrate the worst sins, what he called the association between supercelestial thought and subterranean behaviour. I think it comes from belief in the divinely sanctioned certainty of being right. People haven't changed much.

 

[MHz]

It is not uncommon to hear peolple say such things as God will smite us or someone is destined to go to Hell. What type of people peddle this malarky?

According to the way the Bible puts it, it isn't malarky at all. It's also quite specific about who qualifies and who doesn't, perhaps that is what you might not fully understand at the moment (you being hostile is my first clue that all is not well) Choices make the difference and in most cases somebody else will be making the choices rather than everybody doing it for themselves. When God smites somebody it is no more serious to their salvation than a parent sending their child to his room for an hour before supper because of his bad behavior. The child is still at the table at supper and the incident is over and done with. If anybody tells you it is not that way they are bulls****ting you and since you don't already know that you might be one of the ones that comes in 2nd. In this two man race you still get the silver ribbon, what were you told to expect, if you don't mind me asking,?

 

[JLM]

According to the way the Bible puts it, it isn't malarky at all. It's also quite specific about who qualifies and who doesn't, perhaps that is what you might not fully understand at the moment (you being hostile is my first clue that all is not well) Choices make the difference and in most cases somebody else will be making the choices rather than everybody doing it for themselves. When God smites somebody it is no more serious to their salvation than a parent sending their child to his room for an hour before supper because of his bad behavior. The child is still at the table at supper and the incident is over and done with. If anybody tells you it is not that way they are bulls****ting you and since you don't already know that you might be one of the ones that comes in 2nd. In this two man race you still get the silver ribbon, what were you told to expect, if you don't mind me asking,?

"The Bible puts it"....................the Bible was written by man, NOT God!

 

[DurkaDurka]

According to the way the Bible puts it, it isn't malarky at all. It's also quite specific about who qualifies and who doesn't, perhaps that is what you might not fully understand at the moment (you being hostile is my first clue that all is not well) Choices make the difference and in most cases somebody else will be making the choices rather than everybody doing it for themselves. When God smites somebody it is no more serious to their salvation than a parent sending their child to his room for an hour before supper because of his bad behavior. The child is still at the table at supper and the incident is over and done with. If anybody tells you it is not that way they are bulls****ting you and since you don't already know that you might be one of the ones that comes in 2nd. In this two man race you still get the silver ribbon, what were you told to expect, if you don't mind me asking,?

That's the Christianity interpretation, I love how the various religions compete over which is the "true" one.

I also scoff at the idea that "god" gives two shytes as to what the average person does on earth. If he did, a whole lot of his early supporters would be rotting in hell, considering what they did in his name.

 

[MHz]

Whatever, why get upset over something you don't believe in then. If somebody tells me I have a low tire and I 'know' they are all at the right pressure I don't have to have my day ruined. BTW what the **** are you doing in the religious part of the site posting threads for anyway. let alone caring about a place called hell.

 

[gerryh]

it's called trolling.

 

[MHz]

That's the Christianity interpretation, I love how the various religions compete over which is the "true" one.

I also scoff at the idea that "god" gives two shytes as to what the average person does on earth. If he did, a whole lot of his early supporters would be rotting in hell, considering what they did in his name.

What makes you think false Christians don't get punished more than an Atheist (how would qualify as a 'good neighbor)?

At some point a fork in the road can make a difference on how the rest of the journey is going to go even though the final destination is the same in both cases. That same pattern is also applied to angelic beings.

 

[DurkaDurka]

What makes you think false Christians don't get punished more than an Atheist (how would qualify as a 'good neighbor)?

So the Pope and the followers that were involved in the Crusades are false Christians?

 

[TenPenny]

. BTW what the **** are you doing in the religious part of the site posting threads for anyway. let alone caring about a place called hell.

I wasn't aware that there is some sort of entry requirements for who is and who is not allowed to post in this area.

Can you quote the parts of the forum rules that specify such things?

 

[gerryh]

BTW what the **** are you doing in the religious part of the site posting threads for anyway. let alone caring about a place called hell.

If they didn't come in here and post, they wouldn't be able to bitch and complain about having religion "shoved down their throats".

 

[DurkaDurka]

If they didn't come in here and post, they wouldn't be able to bitch and complain about having religion "shoved down their throats".

I don't see why you are getting worked up about this thread, Gerry, especially considering it wasn't created by one of the righteous one's.

 

[gerryh]

not getting upset, just having a good chuckle.

 

[MHz]

I wasn't aware that there is some sort of entry requirements for who is and who is not allowed to post in this area.

Can you quote the parts of the forum rules that specify such things?

I can see if it theire was some recent specific event, the concept of hell is rather 'generalized' topic for somebody who has no real use for the Bible, or enough to find out the answers for himself. Is that not a valid question, the answer might help me decide om whether I want to stay on the thread, or not. I doubt he will even tell me where he got his current view of what hell even is. Not a requirement but it is still information I would find helpful at this particular point.

 

[DurkaDurka]

not getting upset, just having a good chuckle.

I thought this was pretty tame compared to some of the other threads involving religion

I can see if it theire was some recent specific event, the concept of hell is rather 'generalized' topic for somebody who has no real use for the Bible, or enough to find out the answers for himself. Is that not a valid question, the answer might help me decide om whether I want to stay on the thread, or not. I doubt he will even tell me where he got his current view of what hell even is. Not a requirement but it is still information I would find helpful at this particular point.

Do you 100% know what hell is?

 

[MHz]

So the Pope and the followers that were involved in the Crusades are false Christians?

The Pope doesn't qualify as being the one given the sword in Romans 13 and drowning somebody to see if they are a witch or not would seem to be a violation of the 'do unto others as you would have then do to you (given the real opportunity) Law'. Do you see it as being more complicated than that, if you the separation parameters of Matthew 25 is for the Nations, not the church. The Church will be tried according to the guidelines in the 7 letters.

Do you 100% know what hell is?

Just as sure as I am that you don't want to cover every aspect on what I have 'explored' that would allow me to reach that conclusion. That has to be very close to the same number. (if not higher lol)