Sorry If You’re Offended, but Socialism Leads to Misery and Destitution

HarperCons

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Venezuela. And its plight is due to corruption, not necessarily socialism.
Yea, the corruption of the U.S government and its right-wing cronies in Venezuela working together to sabotage the economy.

Guaido's piece of shit ass was almost lynched in Venezuela for being a traitorous scum.
 

Walter

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Yea, the corruption of the U.S government and its right-wing cronies in Venezuela working together to sabotage the economy.
Guaido's piece of shit ass was almost lynched in Venezuela for being a traitorous scum.
Trump appointed Chavez and Maduro.
 

spilledthebeer

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Sorry If You’re Offended, but Socialism Leads to Misery and Destitution


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YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


AND THE PROBLEM WITH CAPITALISM AND DEMOCRACY......................................


IS THAT IT LIMITS THE ABILITY OF LIE-BERALS AND GOVT UNION HOGS.......................


AND OTHER SUCH SPECIAL MEMBERS OF SOCIETY FROM GETTING...................


THE EXTRA SPECIAL TREATMENT THEY FEEL ENTITLED TO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!








Here is one way to make it EASIER to end the Ontari-owe teacher HOG strikes!!

It should simply BE MADE CLEAR that even after the deal is reached - THERE WILL BE NO RETROACTIVE PAY ON OFFER!!!!!!!!!!!

IN OTHER WORDS - the LONGER IT TAKES TO REACH A DEAL - THE LONGER IT WILL BE BEFORE HOGS CAN GET AT THE ONE PERCENT PAY RAISE THEY ARE CURRENTLY SCORNING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

As we have seen in the past - LIE-berals quite often offered a “signing bonus” - to make up for pay that was supposedly lost during slow negotiations!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We know also that Wynne-bag Ontari-owe LIE-berals SCANDALOUSLY PAID teacher union expenses while the HOGS “negotiated” and LIE-berals SOLD US OUT with their great gravy give away`s to HOGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WE all know how this current HOG strike mess is going to end - with LEGISLATION ORDERING HOGS back to work!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ford govt is wrestling with a a MASSIVE LIE-beral created debt and thus there simply IS NO NEW GRAVY FOR HOGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If HOGS DON’T LIKE THAT MAYBE THEY SHOULD LOOK FOR OTHER WORK??????????????

HOGS will of course be OUTRAGED at such a sentiment - but isnt it ODD - that when WE COMPLAIN about their taxes - HOGS tell US - “If you cannot afford to live here- then go some place else that is cheaper”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And yet HOGS CANNOT tell us where that magical CHEAPER PLACE IS LOCATED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

With HOGS - all issues are a ONE WAY STREET - with the gravy delivered to THEIR FRONT DOOR - and ALL THE TRASH SENT OUR WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hypocrisy is going to DOOM the Ontari-owe LIE-beral party - just as HYPOCRITE LIE-beral policy is dooming the federal LIE-beral minority govt!!!!!
 

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It could also be from any number of remote aboriginal reserves where the people are left to their own devices by completely corrupt bands and chiefs who are nothing more than black holes in which all federal funds are dumped in order to be used for the sole benefit of aforesaid amoral chiefs and bands and to hell with their people.
Or it could be in Alabama

New Jersey
Illinois
etcetera
 

spilledthebeer

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Wrong. Politics is irrelevant in corruption.






POOR FOOLISH BURNED OUT EMBER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


You mentioned the squalid lives people lead on native reserves.......................


AND YOU REALLY NEED TO CONSIDER HOW POWERFUL...................


HAS BEEN THE INFLUENCE of SHAMELESS LIE-beral vote buying...................


on Cdn natives!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




Consider:::::


I got this response to my article discussing whether or not natives are actually Cdn citizens and whether or not they are subject to Cdn law - and the native response PROVES - as I have said - that there is NO HOPE of reconciliation with native radicals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Native responded with this:

“Are you forgetting uneducated person
That we are native to this land
Not relocated from another country
This is our homeland
And generations of legal rights to our land
If you so upset with the way that our rights are expressed you can always go back where your family is from
Before you give your uneducated theories
Find the proper facts not your stupid websites”

What native has essentially told me is this: “Buy into native and LIE-beral propaganda and FORGET ABOUT reason, logic and the rule of law”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

As I have said - radical natives intend to BLACKMAIL the rest of us - in perpetuity - thus the LIE-beral idea of reconciliation is a sickening political JOKE!

The BIGGEST PROBLEM facing us is the TOTAL LACK native political precedent for resolving disputes!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Traditionally natives resolved disputes either by warfare or by segregation - that is if your tribe was taking action you did not like - then you packed your canoe and crossed the lake to start a NEW TRIBE on the far shore!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WE KNOW that the elected chiefs of western tribes SUPPORT the pipelines - and WE KNOW that the majority of natives WANT the jobs and cash that the pipelines will bring!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The OBSTACLE is a minority of hereditary chiefs - meaning self appointed loudmouths who have decided to defy BOTH Cdn govt and their own people by opposing the pipelines and by disrupting the economic life of ALL CDNS!!!!!!!!!

The hereditary chiefs are SPITTING ON DEMOCRACY AND RULE OF LAW!!
Natives have NO PRECEDENT for dealing with such a split decision!!!!!!!!!!!!

And native radicals are being aided by LIE-berals who have sworn to destroy the entire Cdn oil patch - even though our economy CANNOT function without oil!!!!

Radical natives and Soviet Socialist LIE-berals are prepared to make MILLIONS of Cdns miserable and to cause major economic damage as this radical political minority seeks to impose its will on THE MAJORITY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Over 100 years of political and economic STAGNATION on the FAILED RESERVE SYSTEM have ensured natives CANNOT deal effectively with the modern day political issues that face us all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The reserve system is a FAILURE!! Land was set aside for them to own and live on communally - and arrangements were made to allow them to hunt and fish - outside the specific reserve area and this is NO LONGER enough!!!!!!!!!!!!

Treaty 7 - which takes in the largest land area and largest number of natives and covers most of the Cdn Prairies and a chunk of B.C. disposes of hunting and fishing rights in ONE PARAGRAPH - making note that govt CAN pass conservation laws to regulate and maintain animal stocks!! Not that natives will admit this govt RIGHT today!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Treaty 7 also devotes several PAGES to the sort of supplies to be provided to natives - such as iron nails and hinges and assorted steel tools so natives CAN BUILD THEIR OWN HOUSES!! Yes - natives were expected to adopt a Metis lifestyle - living a more settled life - with a cabin as home base from which to go on local hunting and fishing expeditions!!

Natives were also supposed to be supplied with SEED for GROWING FOOD -again in Metis fashion - to supplement their hunting and fishing as it was common knowledge even then that the land could NO LONGER SUPPORT the numbers of people living on it in a traditional hunter gatherer way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

In the year 1491- the anthropologists tell us the native population of Canada and United States was a little over one million people-and now the population is nearly TWELVE MILLION-with about 5 million natives in Canada and the rest in United States - thus if natives wanted to go back to life like their ancestors - they would first HAVE TO KILL OFF 11 out of every 12 natives living today - to make enough room for that hunter-gather lifestyle!! Native attitudes MUST CHANGE - or reserve dwellers will continue to be miserable and angry and drugged and drunk and violence prone and suicidal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HOW PATHETIC that a minority of radicals are prepared to block the majority of reserve dwellers from making an honest effort to join the modern economy in a sensible way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The reserve system HAS FAILED and natives ARE NOT making honest efforts to build their own lives!! Somehow we have been flim-flammed into having white people BUY and BUILD and SHIP pre-fab houses to natives and then TO PAY NATIVES to assemble the houses!! So much for the NAIVE notion that natives would build their own houses or establish independent lives!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And so much for natives being able to supply their own food!! AS the total population of the country - white and native - grew - natives became ever more dependent on white food supplies!! At this point if white food supplies were shut off - tens of thousands of natives would STARVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It IS NOT the fault of natives that the fur trade that sustained them for so many centuries has COLLAPSED!! But we can point to deliberate native refusal to seek out any other alternative employment!! IN a world where over 75 percent of jobs require post secondary education- only 25 percent of natives on reserves bother to finish high school!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That combination of isolation from the main stream economy and that lack of education makes many reserve dwellers UNEMPLOYABLE - especially after factoring in that suicidal addiction to alcohol and drugs!! The reserve system is a TOTAL FAILURE that allows thousands of people to live in squalor and misery - LARGELY OF THEIR OWN MAKING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Consider the native family in the news a year back - a sewage pipe in the unheated crawl space under their govt supplied house had frozen and burst - thus whenever they had a bath or used the toilet - the waste water POOLED under the house- which produced an EYE WATERING STENCH that made meal times UN-ENJOYABLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If such a thing had happened to a white family- the first thing they would have done is STOP FLUSHING THE TOILET- and used a 5 gallon pail instead - and disposed of the contents ELSEWHERE - like way off in the woods!!!!!!!!!!!!

A white family would also have taken to hanging out at the local rec centre - using their showers and washing facilities - while they waited for the mess under their house to either DRY UP OR FREEZE SOLID - at which point they would have REPAIRED THE PIPE and eliminated the problem!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sadly the native solution to this stinky problem was PASSIVE DESPAIR!!!!!!!!!!!

The family DID NOT STOP using the toilet - thus PILING UP the filth and making any pipe repair ever more ugly and costly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

In a sort of defence - of this native passivity- it should be noted that they lived on the usual DESTITUTE reserve- and there was NO PLACE to purchase plumbing repair equipment- such stuff would have needed to be FLOWN IN from hundreds of miles away!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The situation is clearly inconvenient - thus natives began SQUEALING for white people to solve THEIR problem - and lo- some white guy DONATED another pre-fab house to the reserve - but OH DEAR- that SOLVED NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The first problem is natives wanted somebody else to pick up the shipping bill!!!!!

And natives also wanted to know WHICH WHITES WOULD PAY for the assembly of the house?????????

The family DID complain to the local council which wrung its hands and appealed for white charity to resolve these issues - the shipping costs for thousands of km from southern Ontari-owe and the building of the foundation and the eventual house assembly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HOW PATHETIC that all of this native angst and STRESS - stems from a BLOCKED PIPE that a white home owner would have fixed for UNDER $20.00 - but which natives have blown up into something that would make representatives from the United Nations WEEP IN DESPAIR over the living conditions of Cdn natives!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The reserve system HAS FAILED!! WE are supplying houses instead of letting natives build their own - and we are also building them hospitals and schools and supplying them with electricity and all the modern comforts - while a radical minority takes our food and welfare and enjoys blocking roads and rail lines even though the majority of THEIR PEOPLE ARE OPPOSED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thank you LIE-berals for assisting a radical minority of people who do not even consider themselves to be Cdn - to create so much costly chaos!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The reserve system had ONE BRIGHT IDEA- to separate whites and natives as much as possible!! In the modern world - overlapping needs prevent that - but some prison time would SLOW DOWN the most extreme radicals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LIE-berals ABHOR such a solution as jail - but THERE IS AMPLE EVIDENCE it will come to that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Radicals must either play the game or stay away from the game - but choosing to BREAK UP THE GAME IS NOT AN OPTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And for the radical native MINORITY - who does not like how life is evolving in Canada - perhaps YOU SHOULD CONSIDER GOING BACK TO SIBERIA - where YOUR ANCESTORS CAME FROM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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Interesting read about Cuba:
Operation miracle
The specific and real challenges Cuban development has faced has generated unique contradictions. In a planned economy, with an extremely tight budget, they have had to prioritise: the infrastructure is crumbling and yet they have first-world human development indicators. Infant mortality rates reveal a lot about the standard of living, being influenced by multiple socioeconomic and medical factors. Cuba’s infant mortality rate is 4.5 per 1,000 live births, which sits it among first-world countries – and above the US on the CIA’s own ranking.
It is not just Cubans who have benefited from these investments. Tens of thousands of Cuban doctors, educators and other development aid workers have served around the world. At present some 37,000 Cuban doctors and nurses work in 77 countries. They generate foreign exchange of some US$8 billion a year – Cuba’s biggest export.
In addition, Cuba provides both free medical treatment and free medical training to thousands of foreigners every year. As a direct initiative of Fidel, in 1999, the Latin American School of Medicine was inaugurated in Havana to provide foreign students from poor countries with six years of training and accommodation completely free. In 2004, Cuba teamed up with Venezuela to provide free eye surgery to people in three dozen countries under Operation Miracle. In the first ten years more than 3m people had their sight restored.
Prohibiting even trade in medicines, the US embargo led Castro to prioritise investments in medical sciences. Cuba now owns around 900 patents and markets pharmaceutical products and vaccines in 40 countries, generating yearly revenues of US$300m, with the potential for massive expansion. The sector produces more than 70% of the medicines consumed by its 11m people. The entire industry is state owned, research programmes respond to the needs of the population, and all surpluses are reinvested into the sector. Without state planning and investment it is unlikely that this could have been achieved in a poor country. - http://theconversation.com/cuba-is-poor-but-who-is-to-blame-castro-or-50-years-of-us-blockade-69528
Kind of makes a rational person think not all socialism is bad and it's what you do with it that matters most.

All that free stuff must be why they need armed guards to keep their citizens in.
 

spilledthebeer

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Interesting read about Cuba:
Operation miracle
The specific and real challenges Cuban development has faced has generated unique contradictions. In a planned economy, with an extremely tight budget, they have had to prioritise: the infrastructure is crumbling and yet they have first-world human development indicators. Infant mortality rates reveal a lot about the standard of living, being influenced by multiple socioeconomic and medical factors. Cuba’s infant mortality rate is 4.5 per 1,000 live births, which sits it among first-world countries – and above the US on the CIA’s own ranking.

It is not just Cubans who have benefited from these investments. Tens of thousands of Cuban doctors, educators and other development aid workers have served around the world. At present some 37,000 Cuban doctors and nurses work in 77 countries. They generate foreign exchange of some US$8 billion a year – Cuba’s biggest export.

In addition, Cuba provides both free medical treatment and free medical training to thousands of foreigners every year. As a direct initiative of Fidel, in 1999, the Latin American School of Medicine was inaugurated in Havana to provide foreign students from poor countries with six years of training and accommodation completely free. In 2004, Cuba teamed up with Venezuela to provide free eye surgery to people in three dozen countries under Operation Miracle. In the first ten years more than 3m people had their sight restored.

Prohibiting even trade in medicines, the US embargo led Castro to prioritise investments in medical sciences. Cuba now owns around 900 patents and markets pharmaceutical products and vaccines in 40 countries, generating yearly revenues of US$300m, with the potential for massive expansion. The sector produces more than 70% of the medicines consumed by its 11m people. The entire industry is state owned, research programmes respond to the needs of the population, and all surpluses are reinvested into the sector. Without state planning and investment it is unlikely that this could have been achieved in a poor country. - http://theconversation.com/cuba-is-poor-but-who-is-to-blame-castro-or-50-years-of-us-blockade-69528

Kind of makes a rational person think not all socialism is bad and it's what you do with it that matters most.






AND IN OTHER NEWS - FROM THE REAL WORLD..............................


the first year of Communist Rule in Cuba was known as...........


THE YEAR OF THE FIRING SQUAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


As Castro persuaded Cubans to FIT IN OR FCUK OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Here is an article asking a vital question.- especially since so many of our LIE-beral politicians have displayed quite open admiration for socialist and communist type values. With some comments of my own in brackets):

OPINION: Why whitewash communism's crimes?

Washington Post. Published: November 11, 2017. Updated: November 11, 2017 6:00 PM EST

Filed Under: Toronto SUN Opinion.

By Marc A. Thiessen, Washington Post

The Trump administration marked this week’s 100th anniversary of the Bolshevik Revolution by declaring a National Day for the Victims of Communism. The New York Times marked the same anniversary in a different way: by running a series of articles extolling the virtues of communism.

(How sad that Soviet leaders in Russia and China alone have produced MORE dead victims of Soviet “Progress” than all the combined victims of both world wars! Over 55 million Communist Chinese dead and 20-30 million Russians for a communist execution toll of 85 million dead compared to the 70 million total for BOTH world wars! People speak in horror of the Nazi Holocaust in which 6 million Jews, 4 million Russians and a million people of other nationalities were murdered and yet socialists ignore the 8 million Ukrainians deliberately starved to dead by Stalin and the 3 million Cambodians murdered by Khymer Rouge Soviets- to name several of the major Soviet excesses- with many other murders by Soviets around the world that are lost or deliberately forgotten. Not only were Soviets working to massacre their own people, they were working hard to push us- by fear or open war- into their prisons as well!)

The irony of the series’ title, Red Century, seems lost on the Times’s editors. The 20th century was “red” indeed – red with the blood of communism’s victims. The death toll of communism, cited in The Black Book of Communism, is simply staggering: In the U.S.S.R., nearly 20 million dead; China, 65 million; Vietnam, 1 million; Cambodia, 2 million; Eastern Europe, 1 million; Africa, 1.7 million; Afghanistan, 1.5 million; North Korea: 2 million (and counting). In all, Communist regimes killed some 100 million people — roughly four times the number killed by the Nazis — making communism the most murderous ideology in human history.

Never mind all that. University of Pennsylvania professor Kristen Ghodsee writes that Communists had better sex: “Eastern women had twice as many orgasms as Western women . . . (who) had less sex, and less satisfying sex, than women who had to line up for toilet paper.”

(Good God! HOW could anybody really measure this orgasm stuff in any real way? We know how much cheating Soviets engaged in just to make their athletes LOOK superior! No doubt that same “ours are bigger and better” propaganda is a work here- to catch the credulous!)

She has tough words for Joseph Stalin because he “reversed much of the Soviet Union’s early progress in women’s rights – outlawing abortion and promoting the nuclear family.” Yes, that was Stalin’s crime. Not the purges, not the gulag, but promoting the nuclear family.

In How Did Women Fare in China’s Communist Revolution?, Helen Gao recalls her grandmother “talking with joyous peasants from the newly collectivized countryside” and writes that “for all its flaws, the Communist revolution taught Chinese women to dream big.” Mao’s revolution killed tens of millions of Chinese — not counting the millions killed under China’s brutal “One Child” policy, which led to widespread female infanticide. Those Chinese girls never got a chance to dream at all.

(Compared to what had come before- the early days of the Red Army and its revolution must have looked pretty good- one of the first acts Chinese Soviet acts was to teach ALL people to read- this was by many as a brave social advance! Its harder to cheat a person who can read the paperwork! Of course teaching them to read made it easier to disseminate Soviet propaganda and it meant Chinese soldiers could learn to operate heavy artillery- read maps and range finders and such to increase their fighting power against Japanese invaders and Kuomintang forces of Chiang Kai Shek.)

In Lenin’s Eco-Warriors, Yale lecturer Fred Strebeigh writes that Lenin was “a longtime enthusiast for hiking and camping” who turned Russia into “a global pioneer in conservation.” He fails to mention that Lenin was also a mass murderer who executed more of his political opponents in the first four months of his rule than the czars had in the entire previous century. In one telegram, reproduced in The Black Book of Communism, Lenin orders the Cheka (a predecessor of the KGB) to “Hang (I mean hang publicly, so that people see it) at least 100 kulaks, rich bastards, and known bloodsuckers.” (The telegram concludes with an eerie “P.S. Find tougher people.”) Maybe he was camping when he wrote it.

Berkeley professor Yuri Slezkine explains How to Parent Like a Bolshevik, noting that “At home, the children of the Bolsheviks read what they called the ‘treasures of world literature,’ with an emphasis on the Golden Ages analogous to their own” and that “Soviet readers were expected to learn from Dante, Shakespeare and Cervantes.” He does not say whether they were also expected to learn from Orwell. In another piece, Love Lives of Bolsheviks, he notes that for Russia’s Communists, “revolution was inseparable from love.” Except, of course, when the KGB arrived in the middle of the night to separate them from their loves by hauling them off to the gulag.

While all of the articles are not this bad, the series goes on. Vivian Gornick writes about When Communism Inspired Americans. Palash Krishna Mehrotra writes how “arrival of a Soviet Book Exhibition” made his Indian town “come alive.” John Sidel mourns the lost “promise of Muslim Communism.”

The Times series is in the tradition set by former Times Moscow bureau chief Walter Duranty, who wrote glowing reports on Stalin’s rule that included repeated denials of the mass starvation from Stalin’s engineered famine in Ukraine. “Any report of a famine in Russia is today an exaggeration or malignant propaganda,” he wrote, while millions starved to death. And besides, “You can’t make an omelet without breaking eggs.”

(IN his memoirs, Winston Churchill wrote aboput shipments of lumber- cut by slave labourers in Soviet gulags- the lumber being sold to Britain and containing fingers and toes that prisoners had lost through frostbite or accidents in the rotten working conditions designed to maim or kill. I have personally spoken to a Polish man who was about 8 years old in 1939- Nazis had invaded Poland and Soviets waited till the east side of Poland was empty of Polish solders- and grabbed the eastern half of the country. Red Army then rounded up many Polish citizens and shipped them off to Siberia- dumped them off in wilderness with some tools and seed and ordered them to build a town and plant crops- if they froze or starved along the way it did not matter. Once the town and fields were up and running Red Army came back and moved the Poles to start again- for 10 years- after which Soviets were bribed to release the surviving Poles into western hands. Many came to Canada- to get as far away from Soviets as they could.)

(And any socialist reading this stuff will immediately scorn it because a socialist is NOT a communist- so THEY SAY! A communist is simply a socialist in a hurry! The communist takes anti revolutionaries out and shoots or hangs them. The socialist simply leaves political opponents to starve to death in a handy ditch! One has only to look at the corruption in Venezuela to see the truth of this! Oil rich Venezuela is a charter member of the OPEC Oil cartel and yet staunchly socialist Venezuela is STARVING! Things got so bad that the govt gave up its own food rationing program run by socialist govt workers and cops and handed the job to the military. The half starved military began selling most of the food on the black market in order to make up for wages they would never be paid! Wide spread riots were the result and even Our idiot Boy Justin- that hard line socialist moron found himself in an argument with the Venezuelan govt!)

(Our idiot Boy is so hard line socialist that he sees no reason to repudiate the vile compliments heaped on Chinese Chairman Mao by papa Pierre Trudope! Pierre Trudeau fawned over hard line Soviet Mao and praised his “genius in rushing 30 million Chinese to the gallows” merely to cement his hold on power! Both Our idiot Justin and brother Sacha claim former bloody handed Cuban dictator Castro as a very close family friend! With idiot Sacha going so far as say that “Castro was the greatest of South American leaders in the 20th century and head and shoulders above any merely elected leader” This is NOT a family to look to for a defence of democracy or civil rights!)

Now, after a century of slaughter, the Times is back at it, portraying communism as a noble cause, the murders carried out in its name simply aberrations. Never mind that there is not a single example of a country where communism was tried and it did not result in terror, purges, massacres, starvation and totalitarian misery. Yet take any of the opinion pieces above and replace the word “Communist” with “Nazi,” and then try to imagine that anyone would publish them, other than perhaps the Daily Stormer.

(Socialists ALWAYS INSIST that Communism suffers at the hands of outsiders and betrayers! The Revolution is attacked on all sides- so they whine and it must take tough measure to protect itself! Socialists have a persecution complex of very serious and disturbing nature! When NDP knucklehead Bob Rae got elected premier of Ontri-owe- he attempted to “spend” Us rich! Rae tried to borrow enough money so we would all be happy, healthy and prosperous. Socialists seem not understand about things like “interest” that is compounded and amortized! The socialist can tell you in a second what money is owed to the socialist but cannot say with any accuracy what money might be owed by that socialist to others- the double standard is staggering! But since socialists think that bankers- and others who do not toe the socialist line- are illegitimate spawn of Satan, they seem to think bankers can be persuaded to buy back their souls by giving socialist govt a break on the bills!)

Sadly, this twisted view of communism is being passed on to the next generation. A recent poll by the Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation found that just 36% of American millennials have a “very unfavorable” view of communism — the only American generation where this number is less than a majority. Worse still, 32% believe that more people were killed under George W. Bush than under Joseph Stalin. The ignorance is stunning. The first post-Cold War generation has been raised almost completely unaware of the evils of communism.

(Other articles on this site have documented the utter failure of various ethnic groups to learn ANYTHING useful during their time in school systems dominated by socialist union radicals! The profound ignorance of so many provides rich fertilizer for poisoned ideas to take root!)

Czech writer Milan Kundera once described the struggle against communism as “the struggle of memory against forgetting.” Communist regimes did more than kill their victims; they sought to erase their memory and humanity. Shamefully, communism’s crimes against memory and humanity are still being whitewashed by The New York Times.

(Communism also writes the history- the ONLY history- that is allowed to Soviets and socialists! Since there is NO free press, there can be NO dissenting voice to correct the self serving lies told by the overlords! It should be chilling for Cdns to recall Our idiot Boy telling reporters “he likes the way that Chinese Communist govt gets things done”! Especially in light of papa Pierre extolling the genius of mass murderer Mao!)
 

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Interesting read about Cuba:
Operation miracle
The specific and real challenges Cuban development has faced has generated unique contradictions. In a planned economy, with an extremely tight budget, they have had to prioritise: the infrastructure is crumbling and yet they have first-world human development indicators. Infant mortality rates reveal a lot about the standard of living, being influenced by multiple socioeconomic and medical factors. Cuba’s infant mortality rate is 4.5 per 1,000 live births, which sits it among first-world countries – and above the US on the CIA’s own ranking.

It is not just Cubans who have benefited from these investments. Tens of thousands of Cuban doctors, educators and other development aid workers have served around the world. At present some 37,000 Cuban doctors and nurses work in 77 countries. They generate foreign exchange of some US$8 billion a year – Cuba’s biggest export.

In addition, Cuba provides both free medical treatment and free medical training to thousands of foreigners every year. As a direct initiative of Fidel, in 1999, the Latin American School of Medicine was inaugurated in Havana to provide foreign students from poor countries with six years of training and accommodation completely free. In 2004, Cuba teamed up with Venezuela to provide free eye surgery to people in three dozen countries under Operation Miracle. In the first ten years more than 3m people had their sight restored.

Prohibiting even trade in medicines, the US embargo led Castro to prioritise investments in medical sciences. Cuba now owns around 900 patents and markets pharmaceutical products and vaccines in 40 countries, generating yearly revenues of US$300m, with the potential for massive expansion. The sector produces more than 70% of the medicines consumed by its 11m people. The entire industry is state owned, research programmes respond to the needs of the population, and all surpluses are reinvested into the sector. Without state planning and investment it is unlikely that this could have been achieved in a poor country. - http://theconversation.com/cuba-is-poor-but-who-is-to-blame-castro-or-50-years-of-us-blockade-69528

Kind of makes a rational person think not all socialism is bad and it's what you do with it that matters most.



And if you think that the above makes Cuba a worthy place to live, they have certainly got you fooled. The Cuban government also emphasized "literacy" but that certainly doesn't help the majority of Cuban citizens - they don't have free speech, they can't write what they really feel about things, and they don't have freedom to go anywhere unless approved by the government.


Of course if there are those in the U.S. & Canada that want "socialism" they'll soon discover it's not all it's cut out to be. If one wants the government to make all your decisions, then certainly, move to Cuba or N. Korea, Iran or Russia - cuz apparently their socialism works really well - NOT!! I wonder why there are those who think socialism is a utopia when, over the decades it's proven to be the opposite. What is the saying - keep trying to do the same thing over and over again with the same negative result - what's it called? oh yeah, insanity.


Unfortunately, man has a reputation for being greedy; socialism simply brings out the sociopaths who like to control every aspect of other peoples lives, determine who does what and where etc. They are power hungry (aka Democrats & Liberals have already proven this big time) and have only their own interests at heart.


Socialism is evil in and of itself and is just a small step away from Communism. One offers very few choices while the other no choice at all. That is not a world that I personally would want to live in.


Capitalism may not be perfect but it's the best we have at present and has lifted millions of lives out of poverty. We can make our own choices, determine what and how we live our lives. We all have "free will" and we need to take responsibility over our decisions. Some people don't make the right decision and that's on them. Do you really think that "government" can make better choices for us? Seriously? That is the bottom line.
 

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All that free stuff must be why they need armed guards to keep their citizens in.
... that would be difficult. a country of 11 million people that have millions of tourists a year going to be held back by some armed guards,lmao. it's like a Cuban cab driver said to me, Cuba's poverty is related to america's foreign policy against it.
 

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meaning the embargo, sanctions, threats to other countries not to trade with Cuba, etc.
 

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And if you think that the above makes Cuba a worthy place to live, they have certainly got you fooled. The Cuban government also emphasized "literacy" but that certainly doesn't help the majority of Cuban citizens - they don't have free speech, they can't write what they really feel about things, and they don't have freedom to go anywhere unless approved by the government.


Of course if there are those in the U.S. & Canada that want "socialism" they'll soon discover it's not all it's cut out to be. If one wants the government to make all your decisions, then certainly, move to Cuba or N. Korea, Iran or Russia - cuz apparently their socialism works really well - NOT!! I wonder why there are those who think socialism is a utopia when, over the decades it's proven to be the opposite. What is the saying - keep trying to do the same thing over and over again with the same negative result - what's it called? oh yeah, insanity.


Unfortunately, man has a reputation for being greedy; socialism simply brings out the sociopaths who like to control every aspect of other peoples lives, determine who does what and where etc. They are power hungry (aka Democrats & Liberals have already proven this big time) and have only their own interests at heart.


Socialism is evil in and of itself and is just a small step away from Communism. One offers very few choices while the other no choice at all. That is not a world that I personally would want to live in.


Capitalism may not be perfect but it's the best we have at present and has lifted millions of lives out of poverty. We can make our own choices, determine what and how we live our lives. We all have "free will" and we need to take responsibility over our decisions. Some people don't make the right decision and that's on them. Do you really think that "government" can make better choices for us? Seriously? That is the bottom line.
And we can bitch and whine to our hearts content on the internet without worry of th3 midnight knock on the front door .
 

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In 60 years, Cuba has achieved:

—79.74 years life expectancy (US: 78.69)
—99.75% literacy rate (US: 99%)
—0% homelessness (US: .17%)
—1.7% unemployment (US: 3.6%)
All this, despite decades of the cruelest embargo in history.

Defending Cuba shouldn't even be a question.

Oh enough Mr. HarperCons, that is such a simplistic way of putting things! If things are so wonderful in Cuba, why are there many who want to flee? Why don't the millions of Cubans who fled to the US, Canada or wherever go back to Cuba? And if these communist countries you speak of are so wonderful, why aren't you living in them?
 

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Nothing sadder than the downtrodden working class railing against their own interests. Bourgeois propaganda is hell of a drug.

Nothing is sadder than pig-headed fools like you, still clinging to an ideology that FAILS every time because your ego cannot accept it! Heck, even your precious China, Russia and Vietnam realized this!
 

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the u.s embargo cost Cuba $30 billion. not including the threats the u.s makes to other countries who may attempt to trade with Cuba.

also **** the wealthy gusanos moving to miami. you want to talk about corrupt? miami's entire city is built on drug money and organized crime.

Mr. HarperCons, I have question that really suits you: if the USA is so... evil... why hasn't the world united against them? You know, like what the heroic ruskies did to the evil Germans? Why hasn't your country fought against them? Oh that's right because you can't.

If your country had to choose between you, a nobody, and the USA, definitely, they'll pick the USA.
 

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Oh enough Mr. HarperCons, that is such a simplistic way of putting things! If things are so wonderful in Cuba, why are there many who want to flee? Why don't the millions of Cubans who fled to the US, Canada or wherever go back to Cuba? And if these communist countries you speak of are so wonderful, why aren't you living in them?
it still has poverty and a vicious propaganda campaign waged against it.
 

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Nothing is sadder than pig-headed fools like you, still clinging to an ideology that FAILS every time because your ego cannot accept it! Heck, even your precious China, Russia and Vietnam realized this!
it worked every time, read Michael Parenti.