Do Not Take A Swine Flu Vaccine!

[darkbeaver]

Do Not Take A Swine Flu Vaccine!

By Dr. Patricia A. Doyle

Global Research, April 26, 2009
Jeff Rense Program

I am making a plea to everyone who reads this, please, please DO NOT TAKE ANY VACCINE THAT IS PURPORTED TO 'PREVENT' THIS FLU.
Remember 1976 and the so called Swine Flu outbreak that was purported to be a coming pandemic? It only infected recruits at Ft. Dix. Why? Because I believe that the so called Swine Flu virus infected the recruits due to the vaccines they were given. Whether the government developed the Swine Flu 1976 virus and infected the recruits as a means to test the public to see if people would comply with a call to take vaccination against Swine Flu, or the recruits became infected via contaminated vaccine they were given as part of the recruit regimen, that outbreak was as phony as they come. I was one of the people duped into taking a Swine Flu shot and it made me so sick. I was sick in bed for three months after taking the vaccine.

Do not take seasonal flu vaccine if you are told that it could help prevent this brand new Swine Flu variant. It won't do a thing to prevent this flu. What it will do is serve up new genetic material to the Swine Flu virus that I have dubbed Spanish Flu 2, the Sequel. The Spanish Flu variant will use the gene sequences in the vaccine in humans

 

[TenPenny]

Everyone's entitled to an opinion.

"I believe" factors very strongly in that article. Many people believe in all kinds of things.

 

[MHz]

By all means if you want the shot go for it, they don't usually target the right flu but hey, maybe this year will be different and the odds of you getting the vaccines that were accidentally shipped are quite high. It will be your children who will most likely be the ones affected if it is the wrong batch.

 

[gerryh]

First, this woman is NOT a medical doctor.

Second, to put it bluntly, she is either a pathological lier or has some pretty stupd doctors.

The following is from an interview with Jeff Rense in 2003.

"From Patricia Doyle, PhD

I went to the doctor yesterday and found out what the excruciating pain was in my feet and legs during the second week of my illness. Clots. I am diagnosed with Thrombosis, i.e. Deep Vein Thrombosis. I notice that each time I go to the doctor, SARS or SARS like is not used in the diagnosis on my payment receipt. I am being treated with Betablockers and diuretic for bp and the bp hasn't lowered much. Yesterday it was 140/102. At the height of the illness is spiked to 170/120. In some patients SARS must cause clots. I was darned lucky that the long clots coughed up from my lungs with the bright red blood did not cut off my lungs or heart. I will never forget the past 10 weeks, EVER."


First off, DVT has nothing to do with your lungs. Normal course of treatment for DVT's normally a blood thinner like aspirin. When a clot hits your lungs the course of treatment, at least in Canada, is a 5 day course of heperin IV.

You CAN'T "couph up" blood clots from your lungs. Blood clots are in the veins and must be disolved through blood thinners. Since she was NOT on blood thinners at all and is still alive, I call BS.

Her rants make it very obvious she doesn't have a clue what she is talking about.

 

[earth_as_one]

A flu vaccine is very specific. This flu is new so it has no vaccine yet. It will take the vaccine makers a few weeks to develop one. So there is no point to get a vaccine yet. However the anti-viral drugs Tamiflu or Relenza are believed to be effective if taken within 72 hours of the onset of symptoms...

 

[darkbeaver]

A few weeks! Not a chance EAO.

 

[SirJosephPorter]

There are always a few nuts who will try to frighten the masses with some kind of scary story, be it about vaccine, about food, or about anything else.

During the swine flu outbreak of 1976 we were living in USA. President Ford (wisely in my opinion) decided that everybody in USA would get a free flu vaccine. I remember he himself took the vaccine very publicly, on television. Both I and my wife got the swine flu vaccine (I understand it is not any good any more, we took that just too long ago).

As it happened there was no widespread breakout of Swine flu and the vaccine probably was not necessary. But better to be safe than sorry. If necessity arises, I would have no problem taking swine flu vaccination.

 

[VanIsle]

There are always a few nuts who will try to frighten the masses with some kind of scary story, be it about vaccine, about food, or about anything else.

During the swine flu outbreak of 1976 we were living in USA. President Ford (wisely in my opinion) decided that everybody in USA would get a free flu vaccine. I remember he himself took the vaccine very publicly, on television. Both I and my wife got the swine flu vaccine (I understand it is not any good any more, we took that just too long ago).

As it happened there was no widespread breakout of Swine flu and the vaccine probably was not necessary. But better to be safe than sorry. If necessity arises, I would have no problem taking swine flu vaccination.

I'm with you on this Sir Joe. I would rather be safe then sorry. I want all my grandkids to have it too should it be necessary. Hand washing also is extremely important. The kids around here have all been told to wash, wash, wash. The minute they come through the door from school - into the washroom to wash hands. Everyone needs to remember - wash your hands frequently.

 

[MHz]

I'm with you on this Sir Joe. I would rather be safe then sorry. I want all my grandkids to have it too should it be necessary. Hand washing also is extremely important. The kids around here have all been told to wash, wash, wash. The minute they come through the door from school - into the washroom to wash hands. Everyone needs to remember - wash your hands frequently.

Well I certainly have no issues with you taking as many shots as you like, however, what gives you the right to make your grandkids get shots should they not like the odds of the side-effects hurting them permanently. I assume you do give them the info on what could go wrong.

(in part)
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]When these vaccine ingredients enter the child's bloodstream (either through injection or taken orally), the child's body will take immediate action to eliminate these poisons either through the normal organs of elimination or through acute reactions such as fever, swelling or skin rashes. As long as these latter reactions are not suppressed through drugs, it is possible for the child's body to successfully eliminate these vaccine poisons thereby ensuring that no long term damage will occur.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]However, should the child have insufficient vitality to mount an eliminative reaction, or should the eliminative reaction (fever, swelling, skin rash) be suppressed with drugs, then the vaccine poisons will be retained within the body's tissues. It is the retention of these vaccine poisons, which in susceptible infants, can trigger or at least contribute to the development of illnesses such as juvenile diabetes, autism, asthma, neurological disorders, leukaemia and even cot deaths.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]In many children, the retention of vaccine poisons within the body may not cause any acute or noticeable symptoms, but it will cause a lowering of the child's vitality, which in turn, weakens and impairs it's intellectual, creative and imaginative powers, it's physical energy and strength, and all of its internal metabolic functions and immune activities. What this means is that the child will operate at a level well below its true potential.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]The toxic build-up within the child's body and the subsequent depletion of its vitality through vaccines, drugs, fluoridated water, food additives, pesticide residues, atmospheric pollutants, electromagnetic radiation and other adverse factors in the lifestyle makes the child more susceptible to chronic disease at an earlier age, and it's worth noting that the dramatic rise in childhood cancer, autism, juvenile diabetes, asthma and neurological disorders over the past fifty years, has directly coincided with the era of drugs, vaccines and chemical poisons in our food, water and environment.[/FONT]


Vaccination Debate

 

[Cannuck]

Gotta love Rense.

 

[#juan]

Over a four year period I got the Flu vaccine from my doctor once, and that year I got the Flu.(not Swine Flu) My doctor told me that having had the vaccine, my Flu was less severe than it would have been if I hadn't had the vaccine, couldn't prove it by me. Of the other three years I got the Flu once. It was miserable like it usually is. I remain not quite convinced that the vaccine is a great Idea

 

[Risus]

I was going to get a flu shot at work a few years ago, but when then asked me to sign a release that I wouldn't go after the nurse or company if I got sick from the shot, I said no. Hadn't had one before and will never have one since.

 

[Risus]

There are always a few nuts who will try to frighten the masses with some kind of scary story, be it about vaccine, about food, or about anything else.

During the swine flu outbreak of 1976 we were living in USA. President Ford (wisely in my opinion) decided that everybody in USA would get a free flu vaccine. I remember he himself took the vaccine very publicly, on television. Both I and my wife got the swine flu vaccine (I understand it is not any good any more, we took that just too long ago).

As it happened there was no widespread breakout of Swine flu and the vaccine probably was not necessary. But better to be safe than sorry. If necessity arises, I would have no problem taking swine flu vaccination.

All you did was give the drug manufacturer an unnecessary boost to their income...

 

[darkbeaver]

• Flashback: Baxter Sent Bird Flu Virus to European Labs by Error
• Flashback: The Tamiflu Myth: What Big Pharma and the CDC Forgot to Tell the Doctors
  
• How Big Pharma Distorts Science to Get FDA Approval for Dangerous Drug
• Flashback: FDA, Roche Warn Doctors on Tamiflu Dangers
• Flashback: Tamiflu Vaccine Linked With Convulsions, Delirium and Bizarre Deaths

 

[darkbeaver]

First, this woman is NOT a medical doctor.

Second, to put it bluntly, she is either a pathological lier or has some pretty stupd doctors.

Patricia A. Doyle DVM, PhD Bus Admin, Tropical Agricultural Economics Univ of West Indies.

DVM the EM stands for medicine the D stands for doctor so does the PHD. I suppose you believe humans aren't animals. In any case she appears to have more brains than you do and possibly me too. It's liar not lier. lemmy see that's a point for me and zip for you as usual Your caution is correct of course and one should find as much information from different sources as pssible.:smile:

 

[gerryh]

DVM stands for "doctor of veterinary medicine" and she has a PHD in business.... again.... she's not a "doctor"...she's a vet.... and she obviously doesn't have a CLUE when it comes to medicine for humans. IF she did, she would have known what the proper medical procedures that were required for DVT AND she would have known that there is a difference between DVT and Pulmonary embolism.

She's an idiot and should stick to sticking thermometers up cat and dogs asses.



and BTW....before you start criticizing others for their spelling...maybe run a spell checker through your own posts.

 

[VanIsle]

MHz
Well I certainly have no issues with you taking as many shots as you like, however, what gives you the right to make your grandkids get shots should they not like the odds of the side-effects hurting them permanently. I assume you do give them the info on what could go wrong.
You have no issue with me having the shots and in reality while I have no problem with you posting the dangers you have searched out, what shots my grandchildren receive are not up to you or me. They have parents who will make that decision. Just because I would like them to have the shot does not mean it will happen. Right now the swine flu is mild even though the media has done so much of their usual fear mongering that other countries are putting out warnings against coming to Canada of all things. Truly weird. I can see warnings against going to Mexico.
Back to shots. Everyone has to weigh the odds. If the swine flu becomes bad enough and lots of people start dying then the shot has to be a better answer.

 

[VanIsle]

I was going to get a flu shot at work a few years ago, but when then asked me to sign a release that I wouldn't go after the nurse or company if I got sick from the shot, I said no. Hadn't had one before and will never have one since.

I have never been asked to sign a release of any kind in the over 10 years that I have been having the shot. So far, I have only had the flu once since I started getting it. We had one nearly whole family bout of flu about 5 yrs. ago. All the kids got sick first and they were really sick. None of them had shots. My husband and myself never got sick but we were greatly concerned that we would. All the kids parents also got sick and none of them had shots either. Now I have a daughter-in-law that has asthma so her whole family has to have the shots to aid in preventing her from getting the flu.

 

[Francis2004]

(in part)
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]When these vaccine ingredients enter the child's bloodstream (either through injection or taken orally), the child's body will take immediate action to eliminate these poisons either through the normal organs of elimination or through acute reactions such as fever, swelling or skin rashes. As long as these latter reactions are not suppressed through drugs, it is possible for the child's body to successfully eliminate these vaccine poisons thereby ensuring that no long term damage will occur.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]However, should the child have insufficient vitality to mount an eliminative reaction, or should the eliminative reaction (fever, swelling, skin rash) be suppressed with drugs, then the vaccine poisons will be retained within the body's tissues. It is the retention of these vaccine poisons, which in susceptible infants, can trigger or at least contribute to the development of illnesses such as juvenile diabetes, autism, asthma, neurological disorders, leukaemia and even cot deaths.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]In many children, the retention of vaccine poisons within the body may not cause any acute or noticeable symptoms, but it will cause a lowering of the child's vitality, which in turn, weakens and impairs it's intellectual, creative and imaginative powers, it's physical energy and strength, and all of its internal metabolic functions and immune activities. What this means is that the child will operate at a level well below its true potential.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]The toxic build-up within the child's body and the subsequent depletion of its vitality through vaccines, drugs, fluoridated water, food additives, pesticide residues, atmospheric pollutants, electromagnetic radiation and other adverse factors in the lifestyle makes the child more susceptible to chronic disease at an earlier age, and it's worth noting that the dramatic rise in childhood cancer, autism, juvenile diabetes, asthma and neurological disorders over the past fifty years, has directly coincided with the era of drugs, vaccines and chemical poisons in our food, water and environment.[/FONT]


Vaccination Debate

Yup, totally wrong they are.. I guess these vaccines are useless and this statement is false ?

Following the widespread use of poliovirus vaccine in the mid-1950s, the incidence of poliomyelitis declined dramatically in many industrialized countries. A global effort to eradicate polio began in 1988, led by the World Health Organization, UNICEF, and The Rotary Foundation.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polio#cite_note-Watch-67 These efforts have reduced the number of annual diagnosed cases by 99%; from an estimated 350,000 cases in 1988 to 1,310 cases in 2007.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polio#cite_note-morbidity-69 Should eradication be successful it will represent only the second time mankind has ever completely eliminated a disease. The first such disease was smallpox, which was officially eradicated in 1979. A number of eradication milestones have already been reached, and several regions of the world have been certified polio-free. The Americas were declared polio-free in 1994. In 2000 polio was officially eradicated in 36 Western Pacific countries, including China and Australia. Europe was declared polio-free in 2002.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polio#cite_note-WHO_Europe_2002-74 As of 2006, polio remains endemic in only four countries: Nigeria, India, Pakistan, and Afghanistan.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poliohttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polio#cite_note-eradication-68

 

[Dexter Sinister]

Well, whatever kind of fool Dr. Doyle might be--and if she thinks she can cough up a deep vein thrombosis I have to wonder about her medical knowledge--at least this much is true:

Do not take seasonal flu vaccine if you are told that it could help prevent this brand new Swine Flu variant. It won't do a thing to prevent this flu.

It usually takes about 4-6 months to develop a flu vaccine and get it into distribution, there's no shot that'll help against this H1N1 strain yet.