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Reasons Not To Live In Canada
May 6th, 2005Top Eight Reasons NOT to immigrate to Canada
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Top Eight Reasons NOT to immigrate to Canada (Reasons Not To Live In Canada)
Top Eight Reasons NOT to immigrate to Canada
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#2
Reasons To Live In Canada
May 6th, 2005Quote:
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No Culture.
Unlike almost every other country in the world, Canada has no culture. Actually American culture is what dominates Canada. When was the last time you had some 'Canadian' food? There are no Canadian traditions and there is no national identity. What does it even mean to call yourself a 'Canadian'. . .nothing really. People living in Canada, still identify themselves as to where they 'originally' came from.
I wonder where this was actually thought up. Wherever it was, there wasn't much grey matter to put into it. Anyone who's even researched the people of canada should know that Canadian culture is a culture of people that consists of elements of every culture. Assimilation as in most cases when cultures clash usually happens, but the canadians at least try to govern their society to be culturally diverse...-er, Multicultral would be the apt name.We have canadian food, it's any kind of food availabe around the world. You can eat any culture in Canada. Societies grow over time Canada's only been around for roughly over a century, the US around 4. Other countries have been around to develop much longer than that. Canadian culture is in it's infancy and with the mix of the worlds entire populace, I wonder how we'll turn out by the end of of the new millenium?
#3
Don't Immigrate To Canada
May 6th, 2005
That a hole said he moved here with his parents 
I suppose he got a good education then sold out to the highest bidder .Then he goes out and slams the country that he got his education from we don't need assholes like him in Canada good riddance 
I suppose he got a good education then sold out to the highest bidder .Then he goes out and slams the country that he got his education from we don't need assholes like him in Canada good riddance #4
Reasons To Immigrate To Canada
May 6th, 2005
Blah! it just one of those wacko personalities of girandi. the dude has a really lame act. :P
#5
May 6th, 2005
Canadian Food
Canadian Bacon
Canadian Maple syrup
Smarties.
Canadian Culture:
Hockey
Beer
Kitchen parties (NS)
Boony Bashes (BC)
RCMP-Can't find that anywhere else
Theres a lot more, but someone gets the point I'm sure.
C
Canadian Bacon
Canadian Maple syrup
Smarties.
Canadian Culture:
Hockey
Beer
Kitchen parties (NS)
Boony Bashes (BC)
RCMP-Can't find that anywhere else
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Cause we never hear the term Afro American used to describe a certain ethnic group. People living in Canada, still identify themselves as to where they 'originally' came from.
Theres a lot more, but someone gets the point I'm sure.
C
#6
May 6th, 2005
Your responses are based on patriotic emotions (well expected), you should listen more and defend less that which escapes the obvious.
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#7
May 6th, 2005
Hey, wasn't there a post on this board somewhere that expressed a bit of horror at the thought of robots taking over from humans? Has it happened already?^^^^^^^^^^
#8
May 6th, 2005
A reasoned and rational response, Mom. But to be a bit more specific, I'd like to reply to each of his eight points.
1)Discriminatory & Dishonest Immigration System: No argument here. We complain about having too few Doctors, Nurses, Teachers, etc. and then permit the professional associations of these groups keep them from becoming qualified by forcing them to start all over again. Score one for Asad.
2)Cost of Living: Try living England, sonny. That will give you a real taste of "out of control". Canada is dirt cheap compared to any other developed nation. The score is tied!
3) Health Care Disaster: Try the US for a disaster. We aren't perfect, but the shortage you claim is exaggerated. Another point for us, Asad.
4) Very High Taxes: Old news, sonny! Try Scandanavia or Germany or England. Again, compare the total cost in constant dollars, Euros or whatever before you make silly statements like this. You're down two, Asad.
5) Money Hungry Government: This is getting tiresome. What makes you think they are going to let you immigrate to the U.S. With their current state of paranoia, you might not feel very comfortable in Texas or Ohio. Try California and see what a "money hungry government" really looks like. You're falling even further behind, Asad.
6) No Culture: Whaddayamean no Kulchur! We got hockey. Aint that kulchur enough for yuh? We also got Poutine and Back Bacon and Pea Soup and Roll Mops and Solomon Gundy and Salmon Burgers. So there. You're on a losing streak, Asad.
7) Worst Weather: I wouldn't know. Compared to New Delhi in the rainy season? Compared to Northern Chile or Eastern Russia or anywhere in the Carribean in Hurricane Season or Tornado Alley?
8) No Jobs: Looks like the same whining and sniveling in two or three of the earlier points. Poor little immigrant can't get the job he wants. It all boils down to the same complaint. No argument from me that the Immigration System stinks, but it's been that way for a long time.
In summary, Asad, you won't be missed. Spend a little time travelling around before you make blanket statements like you have. You might find Canada isn't quite the basket case you seem to think.
Sincerely, Coaster
1)Discriminatory & Dishonest Immigration System: No argument here. We complain about having too few Doctors, Nurses, Teachers, etc. and then permit the professional associations of these groups keep them from becoming qualified by forcing them to start all over again. Score one for Asad.
2)Cost of Living: Try living England, sonny. That will give you a real taste of "out of control". Canada is dirt cheap compared to any other developed nation. The score is tied!
3) Health Care Disaster: Try the US for a disaster. We aren't perfect, but the shortage you claim is exaggerated. Another point for us, Asad.
4) Very High Taxes: Old news, sonny! Try Scandanavia or Germany or England. Again, compare the total cost in constant dollars, Euros or whatever before you make silly statements like this. You're down two, Asad.
5) Money Hungry Government: This is getting tiresome. What makes you think they are going to let you immigrate to the U.S. With their current state of paranoia, you might not feel very comfortable in Texas or Ohio. Try California and see what a "money hungry government" really looks like. You're falling even further behind, Asad.
6) No Culture: Whaddayamean no Kulchur! We got hockey. Aint that kulchur enough for yuh? We also got Poutine and Back Bacon and Pea Soup and Roll Mops and Solomon Gundy and Salmon Burgers. So there. You're on a losing streak, Asad.
7) Worst Weather: I wouldn't know. Compared to New Delhi in the rainy season? Compared to Northern Chile or Eastern Russia or anywhere in the Carribean in Hurricane Season or Tornado Alley?
8) No Jobs: Looks like the same whining and sniveling in two or three of the earlier points. Poor little immigrant can't get the job he wants. It all boils down to the same complaint. No argument from me that the Immigration System stinks, but it's been that way for a long time.
In summary, Asad, you won't be missed. Spend a little time travelling around before you make blanket statements like you have. You might find Canada isn't quite the basket case you seem to think.
Sincerely, Coaster
#9
May 6th, 2005
Really think, its getting kind of boring, you seem a little fixiated. Why don't you just forget about it and pull a chair up to the fishing hole and drop your line in and chew the fat. Bring kokanee tho.
#10
May 6th, 2005
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Your responses are based on patriotic emotions (well expected), you should listen more and defend less that which escapes the obvious.
Of course they're natural responses. Any culture would defend itself when confronted with something threatening or hateful directed to them. 
Don't tell me that Americans would get any less defensive If I posed such claptrap on one of their websites. Here on this site, the responses have something to say besides F*** *** ****, ****** *** *** **** *******!! Which is what you get when most Americans respond to any critisism. #11
May 6th, 2005
Quote: Originally Posted by peapod
The only thing I'm fixiated on is expressing my opinion, and on occassion when it contradicts your perceptions, you all jump. You can keep an open mind and appreciate the fact that people perceive the world in a different way. There is an immigrant movement in Canada pea, that is bringing up a class action suit against the Canadian government. At the very least, you owe it to yourselves to listen to what they say and not shun them.Really think, its getting kind of boring, you seem a little fixiated. Why don't you just forget about it and pull a chair up to the fishing hole and drop your line in and chew the fat. Bring kokanee tho.
#12
May 6th, 2005
Quote: Originally Posted by Jo Canadian
Doesn't comparison ever tire you Jo? Maybe you should play the Molson Beer Commercial, it might make you feel better.Quote:Your responses are based on patriotic emotions (well expected), you should listen more and defend less that which escapes the obvious.
#13
May 6th, 2005
I was not really thinking about it that way think, I was speaking more of the fixation between americans verus canadians. For every unhappy immigrate, I can bring 10 to this board that are grateful and happy to be here. We are different from you, we have choosen to move our society toward a european attitude, at least that is what I think. Americans on the other hand has chosen to go backwards, to a religious society. Someone like Jerry fawell, would never have access to the office of the prime minister of our country, Jerry fawell has one to your president. This is just my opinion of course, I don't speak for anyone else. The yellow road signs here say "caution" road narrows...in your country at least for now the signs say *caution* minds narrow. I am sorry if this offends you, but it is honestly how I feel.
#15
May 6th, 2005
Quote:
I think not said
Doesn't comparison ever tire you Jo? Maybe you should play the Molson Beer Commercial, it might make you feel better.
Can't. Don't drink anymore.
Besides if you're complaining me comparing, I'm just pointing out the obvious. What I wasn't comparing was that being defesnsive would be ANY nations response to something like that.
We would whine about it just as loud as you guys, we just use fewer F words #16
May 6th, 2005
You will find pea that very few things offend me, and I assure you never from a forum. Perceptions matter. And everyone has different perceptions. I have no doubt for every 1 immigrant there are 10 that have a different opinion, but that does not mean you shun the minority. And in my perception your interpretation of diversity (by immigrants having there own neighborhoods and such) can be easily misinterpreted as seggregation.
The issues immigrants are bringing up are valid points, and if you continue to disregard them you are not moving forward. Dont you agree?
The issues immigrants are bringing up are valid points, and if you continue to disregard them you are not moving forward. Dont you agree?
#18
May 6th, 2005
I don't really know, I will read it when I have time. But if they have a case, the courts will decide. No one has ever said we do not have problems in this country, we have never assumed we are perfect, its the american arrogance that assumes that. Now Mr. dibbs has the right attitude for becoming a canadian. Although highly qualified in his field, his creditials may have problems here. Mr. dibbs would be more than happy to pump gas in order to live in canada. So maybe the old saying expectations, are resentments under construction means something.
#20
May 6th, 2005
But you are lumping in all americans with that statement, and that is not true. There are many that know alot about canada. Thats why they are buying alot of land right here on my island. Quite a few of from where you live, they seems to love cortez island, new yorkers. So they found out about lotusland somehow 
#21
May 6th, 2005
Pea, one thing I have to say. BC is one of the greatest places I've been to in Canada, it's absolutely beautiful. I cant wait till my next visit this October
#22
May 6th, 2005
Quote: Originally Posted by Jo Canadian
Quebec has been around for over 400 years, btw.Quote:
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No Culture.
Unlike almost every other country in the world, Canada has no culture. Actually American culture is what dominates Canada. When was the last time you had some 'Canadian' food? There are no Canadian traditions and there is no national identity. What does it even mean to call yourself a 'Canadian'. . .nothing really. People living in Canada, still identify themselves as to where they 'originally' came from.
We have canadian food, it's any kind of food availabe around the world. You can eat any culture in Canada. Societies grow over time Canada's only been around for roughly over a century, the US around 4. Other countries have been around to develop much longer than that. Canadian culture...
#23
May 6th, 2005
Quote:
Quebec has been around for over 400 years, btw.
I was referring to Canada as an official country, not when it was discovered. Otherwise you're correct in that respect. 
If you want to see it that way though Quebec has had at least that amount of time to culture it's culture. Otherwise they'd be no different than the European french #25
May 11th, 2005
leaving on a jet plane...taking my whining and complaining with me. 
I never met to cause you trouble, oh no I never met to do you harm, tinkle, tinkle, tinkle (piano) ....still listening to coldplay.
I never met to cause you trouble, oh no I never met to do you harm, tinkle, tinkle, tinkle (piano) ....still listening to coldplay.
#26
May 11th, 2005
I think many immigrants come here with wrong information, and unrealistic goals and timelines. Then when they realize the truth, they play the racism card and bring up the weather. One of the rights we have in Canada is the right of mobility, if you want to leave, go ahead.
#27
May 11th, 2005
Quote: Originally Posted by canuck3000
Thanks for the link, I signed up to the CanadianDesi one since I'm of East Indian background, I figure I'll cause some raucaus there and set a few people straight.PLEASE READ:
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#28
May 11th, 2005
Quote: Originally Posted by canuck3000
8. Discriminatory and Dishonest Immigration System.for those interested in Immigrating to Canada read this:
Top Eight Reasons NOT to immigrate to Canada
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- I can't comment, I didn't immigrate here. If you ask me, the system is too lenient. We should screen immigrants more strictly.
7. Out Of Control Cost Of Living.
- I've only lived in Canada, but have traveled throughout the world and know that Europe is far more expensive as a place to live. Japan too is very expensive. In terms of the US, it too can be very expensive depending on where, same goes for Canada. Toronto may be expensive, but Regina is quite affordable.
6. Health Care Disaster.
- Disaster is the wrong word. Crisis is better. I have a family doctor; I can make an appointment usually for the same day. I've waited around in hospital ERs, it sucks but it isn't the government’s entire fault. I say our problems are different, but overall I say we are no worse off than other 1st world countries.
5. Very High Taxes.
- You get what you pay for. They could cut takes down to the bone, but then you would get nothing from the government. A good plan if you are rich, not if you are poor. I think the cost of living is more or less in line with our taxation level. If there were no sales tax, the prices would just go up cause they know people could afford it.
4. Money Hungry Government.
- Name a government that isn't. Besides, we elected them so it is our fault.
3. No Culture.
- Define culture. We are a mosaic; we have a culture of multiculturalism. Besides we do have several things distinct and inherent only with Canada.
2. Worst Weather.
- According to whom? This is so subjective. This guy was from India, in terms of temperature, Canada is colder. Perhaps he viewed this as worse, but not everyone does. My dad loves the weather here; he hated the stifling heat in India when it would be 40+ Celsius for weeks, that's one of the reasons he left. The weather sucked (in his opinion).
1. No Jobs.
- Really, I got one. Perhaps, I'm an exception, but that doesn't really explain why there are so many cars on the road at 7AM and then again at 3:30PM, could it be all those millions of people are going to and from their jobs? Couldn't be, I thought there were none.
Hey just because you don't get a job doesn't mean there are no jobs.
This all being said, coming to Canada is tough, the streets are not paved with gold or any other precious metal.[/list]
#29
May 18th, 2005
Hello
To live with and come to terms with reason 2 to 8 you must have reason # 1 resolved.
In this screwed up world sufficient income is one of the few things humans must have to survive or sink into depresssion or worst.
Canadas Immigration policies und applied practices are based on deception and outright trickery.
In a recent workfair in BONN and DRESDEN (Germany)
the Alberta Gov AIT Dept. was actively promoting
the immigration of skilled tradespeoples.
With flashy pomp and circumstance interviews and infomercial mingleing took place.
To be chosen, lengthy application needed to be submitted and of course hefty fees not only for application but for translation and certification services
for each document and little workstint these guys went through.
Of course there is still Can Immigration to deal with; any one familiar knows that can set you back in exccess of many many thousands. Add all the other moving expenses etc.
Lets assume he or she is "lucky" and is admitted to work in Alberta and lands a job entry level at less or close to 20.00/h. Not bad for many in the maritimes ; but taxation cost of living will eat up with little left to plan ahead and enjoy life.
Now add the fact of being fired first, no formal recognition and accreditation of even trades not mentioning higher learning.
If this immigrant also bring his lifesaving and has to eat it up the circumstance grows desperate quickly.
The poverty trap has set for this individual and his kin.
This situation is not hypthethical but well documented.
In this situation all these other reasons become magnified by factor `10 or more.
Well if Canada or Provinces need skilled population they should invest either by helping own workforce to be, or grasp that immigrants are not just cash cows (min of 10 000$ GDP / person).
Support and goodwill in skill accreditation is a must; the current situation stinks and is designed to buy time to prolong the exploitation.
Dont attract Immis if fair treatment is not part of the deal!
For the ones who disagree check your environ and see who is doing the dirty work and are at the bottom of the ladder with the lower rungs missing!
Cheers nelk
To live with and come to terms with reason 2 to 8 you must have reason # 1 resolved.
In this screwed up world sufficient income is one of the few things humans must have to survive or sink into depresssion or worst.
Canadas Immigration policies und applied practices are based on deception and outright trickery.
In a recent workfair in BONN and DRESDEN (Germany)
the Alberta Gov AIT Dept. was actively promoting
the immigration of skilled tradespeoples.
With flashy pomp and circumstance interviews and infomercial mingleing took place.
To be chosen, lengthy application needed to be submitted and of course hefty fees not only for application but for translation and certification services
for each document and little workstint these guys went through.
Of course there is still Can Immigration to deal with; any one familiar knows that can set you back in exccess of many many thousands. Add all the other moving expenses etc.
Lets assume he or she is "lucky" and is admitted to work in Alberta and lands a job entry level at less or close to 20.00/h. Not bad for many in the maritimes ; but taxation cost of living will eat up with little left to plan ahead and enjoy life.
Now add the fact of being fired first, no formal recognition and accreditation of even trades not mentioning higher learning.
If this immigrant also bring his lifesaving and has to eat it up the circumstance grows desperate quickly.
The poverty trap has set for this individual and his kin.
This situation is not hypthethical but well documented.
In this situation all these other reasons become magnified by factor `10 or more.
Well if Canada or Provinces need skilled population they should invest either by helping own workforce to be, or grasp that immigrants are not just cash cows (min of 10 000$ GDP / person).
Support and goodwill in skill accreditation is a must; the current situation stinks and is designed to buy time to prolong the exploitation.
Dont attract Immis if fair treatment is not part of the deal!
For the ones who disagree check your environ and see who is doing the dirty work and are at the bottom of the ladder with the lower rungs missing!
Cheers nelk
#30
May 20th, 2005
"1. No Jobs.
Yes, coast to coast, there are no jobs. Immigrants are highly qualified (MD's, PhD's, Lawyers, Engineers etc.) but they are driving taxi cabs, delivering pizza's or working in factories. Even people with bachelors degrees from Canadian Universities cannot find jobs after graduation. This is the tragedy associated with immigration to Canada. I feel sorry for those immigrants who are stuck in Canada for the rest of their lives. It is indeed a very sad and hopeless future."
Where I live every place in town is at a shortage of workers, help wanted signs are all over.
"5. Very High Taxes.
Yes, you have the GST, the PST, totaling 15%, on practically everything you purchase and many other taxes taken out of our weekly paycheck. You have to pay a whopping amount to the government, out of your hard earned salary, so that the government can turn around and give it to beer drinking, hockey watching welfare bums. Fair? It does not matter, it's Canada."
I've got only a 7% GST rate, plus hidden fees I'm told
" 2. Worst Weather.
Yes, Canada has the worst weather conditions of any country in the world. Freezing cold temperatures, snow, ice, hail, winds, storms etc. From the Prairie provinces to the Maritimes, from the Territories to southern Ontario, the weather is so horrific and disgusting that many Canadians leave Canada simply because of this reason alone. "
Some people like snow..
Yes, coast to coast, there are no jobs. Immigrants are highly qualified (MD's, PhD's, Lawyers, Engineers etc.) but they are driving taxi cabs, delivering pizza's or working in factories. Even people with bachelors degrees from Canadian Universities cannot find jobs after graduation. This is the tragedy associated with immigration to Canada. I feel sorry for those immigrants who are stuck in Canada for the rest of their lives. It is indeed a very sad and hopeless future."
Where I live every place in town is at a shortage of workers, help wanted signs are all over.
"5. Very High Taxes.
Yes, you have the GST, the PST, totaling 15%, on practically everything you purchase and many other taxes taken out of our weekly paycheck. You have to pay a whopping amount to the government, out of your hard earned salary, so that the government can turn around and give it to beer drinking, hockey watching welfare bums. Fair? It does not matter, it's Canada."
I've got only a 7% GST rate, plus hidden fees I'm told
" 2. Worst Weather.
Yes, Canada has the worst weather conditions of any country in the world. Freezing cold temperatures, snow, ice, hail, winds, storms etc. From the Prairie provinces to the Maritimes, from the Territories to southern Ontario, the weather is so horrific and disgusting that many Canadians leave Canada simply because of this reason alone. "
Some people like snow..
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