Tory MP derides jobless as 'no-good bastards'


Avro
#1
OTTAWA–Comments by Conservative MPs deriding homeless people and describing abortion as a procedure that makes women more available to men demonstrate the party's true colours, opposition critics say.
Nova Scotia Conservative MP Gerald Keddy has apologized for describing unemployed Nova Scotians as "those no-good bastards sitting on the sidewalk in Halifax that can't get work."
There has been no such apology from Saskatchewan MP Maurice Vellacott for his unflattering depiction of women seeking abortions, which also applauded Saskatoon doctors for restricting access to abortion services.
"Pro-life feminists have ... come to see abortion as part of a male agenda to have women more sexually available," said the controversial MP in an anti-abortion news release sent out Nov. 20.
Vellacott just this week had to apologize for a flyer wrongly accusing Nova Scotia NDP MP Peter Stoffer of supporting the long-gun registry.
Nova Scotia Liberal MP Scott Brison said Keddy's remarks reflect the kind of mean-spirited attitude that Canadians have come to expect from the Conservative government.
"This is from a Conservative party under Stephen Harper that has referred to Atlantic Canadians as being defeatist," he told reporters.
"This Conservative party has a deep vein of meanness to it. It's a party that kicks people when they are down," he said.
Winnipeg Liberal MP Anita Neville said Vellacott has proven time and again that he has a "very right-wing, somewhat Neanderthal agenda."
"It's an insult to women in this country," Neville said. "It gives me great fear should they ever have a majority government," she told reporters.

Toronto Star
 
Nuggler
#2
Most CRAP members have a real good handle on "no good bastards".
 
AnnaG
#3
Quote:

"It's an insult to women in this country," Neville said. "It gives me great fear should they ever have a majority government," she told reporters.

....and governments in general are an insult to everyone.
 
SirJosephPorter
#4
He is just imitating his Messiah, Avro. Harper claimed a few years ago that Maritimers are lazy. So why shouldn’t one of his MPs also claim it.

There are plenty of hatemongers in the Conservative party. So far Harper has kept a tight muzzle on them. If now they start spouting off at the mouth, it cannot be good for the Conservative Party.

I remember for a long time, these hatemongers (Randy White, Cheryl Gallant, just to name two) kept conservative popularity quite low. After Harper muzzled them, prohibited them from opening their yap, he had some success with Canadian voters. If now he is going to loosen his grip and let them shoot off their mouth, well all I say is that it cannot be good for this party.
 
Nuggler
#5
Quote: Originally Posted by SirJosephPorterView Post

He is just imitating his Messiah, Avro. Harper claimed a few years ago that Maritimers are lazy. So why shouldn’t one of his MPs also claim it.

There are plenty of hatemongers in the Conservative party. So far Harper has kept a tight muzzle on them. If now they start spouting off at the mouth, it cannot be good for the Conservative Party.

I remember for a long time, these hatemongers (Randy White, Cheryl Gallant, just to name two) kept conservative popularity quite low. After Harper muzzled them, prohibited them from opening their yap, he had some success with Canadian voters. If now he is going to loosen his grip and let them shoot off their mouth, well all I say is that it cannot be good for this party.


It will however, be good for Canada.
 
big
#6
Quote: Originally Posted by AvroView Post

Nova Scotia Conservative MP Gerald Keddy has apologized for describing unemployed Nova Scotians as "those no-good bastards sitting on the sidewalk in Halifax that can't get work."

To abuse power, one has to first: keep the mass busy (i.e. make the people look the other way).
Last edited by big; Nov 26th, 2009 at 04:11 PM..
 
AnnaG
#7
Quote: Originally Posted by SirJosephPorterView Post

He is just imitating his Messiah, Avro. Harper claimed a few years ago that Maritimers are lazy. So why shouldn’t one of his MPs also claim it.

There are plenty of hatemongers in the Conservative party. So far Harper has kept a tight muzzle on them. If now they start spouting off at the mouth, it cannot be good for the Conservative Party.

I remember for a long time, these hatemongers (Randy White, Cheryl Gallant, just to name two) kept conservative popularity quite low. After Harper muzzled them, prohibited them from opening their yap, he had some success with Canadian voters. If now he is going to loosen his grip and let them shoot off their mouth, well all I say is that it cannot be good for this party.

And there's a hate-monger right here in CC. He promotes hatred for Cons, Reps, right-wingers, "lifers", the blind, blacks, etc. Guess who it would be.
 
TenPenny
#8
Quote: Originally Posted by SirJosephPorterView Post

He is just imitating his Messiah, Avro. Harper claimed a few years ago that Maritimers are lazy. So why shouldn’t one of his MPs also claim it.

Considering that 6 months ago, when we were hiring for our Dartmouth office, we had a terrible time finding anyone interested in working, I'd tend to agree with Kedy; those who are unemployed are, for the most part, doing so by choice.

It's certainly not easy to find anyone to hire.
 
big
#9
Quote: Originally Posted by TenPennyView Post

Considering that 6 months ago, when we were hiring for our Dartmouth office, we had a terrible time finding anyone interested in working, I'd tend to agree with Kedy; those who are unemployed are, for the most part, doing so by choice.

There is a reason why welfare is called welfare!?
 
petros
#10
Quote:

Quoting TenPenny
Considering that 6 months ago, when we were hiring for our Dartmouth office, we had a terrible time finding anyone interested in working, I'd tend to agree with Kedy; those who are unemployed are, for the most part, doing so by choice.

Your absolutely right $500 a month gives you oh so much freedom to do as you please living like a king. You even have enough free time to sit around downtown Halifax which we all know is THEE place to be if you are rich and living the good life.

If I had free time I'd be downtown Halifax just watching the world go by too.
 
karrie
#11
Quote: Originally Posted by TenPennyView Post

...those who are unemployed are, for the most part, doing so by choice.

It's certainly not easy to find anyone to hire.

He wasn't even saying 'the jobless', he was talking about panhandlers. 'People with no jobs sitting on the sidewalk'.
 
TenPenny
#12
I knew a panhandler years ago, who described his trade as 'panhandling'.

"Cornelius is my name, my good man, and I'm a panhandler by trade..." would be a direct quote. He was an interesting guy, if a little mentally unstable. But harmless enough, and well educated; he could recite most of Hamlet or MacBeth at the drop of a hat (but he'd expect you to pay him for it, he was, after all, a panhandler).
 
petros
#13
Quote:

He was an interesting guy, if a little mentally unstable.....

As an employer would you take on that liability?
 
TenPenny
#14
Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

As an employer would you take on that liability?

Sure, it's easier to deal with something you know about. In any given office, you'll find people with mental problems.
 
big
#15
Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

Your absolutely right $500 a month gives you oh so much freedom to do as you please living like a king. You even have enough free time to sit around downtown Halifax which we all know is THEE place to be if you are rich and living the good life.

If I had free time I'd be downtown Halifax just watching the world go by too.

Downtown Halifax is not exactly a tax heaven.
 
petros
#16
Quote: Originally Posted by TenPennyView Post

Sure, it's easier to deal with something you know about. In any given office, you'll find people with mental problems.

Of course, 1 in 10 people have mental health issues but only 1% of that 10% are aware of it and do something about it.

That means 3.2 Million nut jobs live and work freely amongst us and apparently they seem to like downtown Halifax.
 
TenPenny
#17
Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

That means 3.2 Million nut jobs live and work freely amongst us and apparently they seem to like downtown Halifax.

No, the ones who like downtown Halifax aren't the ones who 'work' amongst us; that's what started this whole thing!
 
petros
#18
Quote: Originally Posted by TenPennyView Post

No, the ones who like downtown Halifax aren't the ones who 'work' amongst us; that's what started this whole thing!

But I thought you said panhandling was a job? Back in the day there were massive places with names like "Valley View" for these people to hang out and smoke each other's cigarette butts. Funding was cut and we were convinced that we could integrate these people.

Now that they are integrated and self medicating in downtown Halifax what solutions are there?

Fund the cops and prisons or fund the health care programs? Was integration the answer? It would seem all it has done is enhanced the street crime to new and bizarre levels.
Last edited by petros; Nov 27th, 2009 at 01:38 PM..
 
TenPenny
#19
Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

But I thought you said panhandling was a job?

No, I said "I knew a panhandler years ago, who described his trade as 'panhandling'."
 
petros
#20
Quote: Originally Posted by TenPennyView Post

No, I said "I knew a panhandler years ago, who described his trade as 'panhandling'."

Right. To him it is a job. One he can mentally handle outside of a support system.
 
GreenFish66
#21
A single person needs to make at least 14/hr to secure and sustain the Canadian standard of living . More if your a single parent...Don't believe me ..Create an average Canadian budget and do the math ..Without credit ..

If you loose your job due to unexpected layoff,firing ,illness or any other unforseeable,unpredictable event it can be like falling off a cliff .......

Bad credit ,banckruptcy?

Once you fall through the cracks it is hard to re-establish yourself...Gotta get 1st and last months rent, eat, get transportation, find someone to watch your kids ..Survive..

Many reasons for unemployment and homelessness..

Biggest problem is many government programs and organizations ment to assist these people in their greatest time of need are mostly useless .Most are only good at number games.
Most of the money is recycled back into themselves to keep their own jobs secure..Just to Keep the doors open ..Not enough goes to the people in need..

Having said that ...How many re-sume writing places do we need?..Re- training for what jobs ?..Button pushing..Garbage picking 101 .?...

What purpose do Temp agancies really serve .For the unemployed labourer..How much do temp agency "slave labour" pay? ..Is that really a sustainable standard of living for Canadians?

Bg Biz and Gov. organizations always seem to benefit unfairly off the backs of slave drone Labourers .

Labourers /consumers / the general public/unfortunate always seem to pull the short sticks .It's always Bg Biz /Gov cutting and holding the straws.
 
coldstream
#22
Has anyone taken a look at the pensions that MPs have granted themselves. There is no industry in the country, or the world, except perhaps Wall Street Banking where a short stay will produce life long security.

"Those no-good bastards sitting on the sidewalk in Halifax that can't get work.".. take a look in the mirror you fat lazy slob, pigging out at the public trough.

They no longer even have the courage to vote on their own pensions. They have delegated this to a commission, completely appointed and beholden to their parliamentary masters, to wash their hands of it.

It would be at least a small saving grace if they were actually doing a good job. But the country is in a mess. Look at what the mindless ideology of Free Trade and Economic Liberalism has brought us. Millions are turfed on to dust bin of the new economy as productive economy atrophies. Our stewards are incompetent as well as besotted with greed.

Compare their renumeration and pensions to the soldiers who put themselves in harm's way to defend our freedom. They earn a fraction in benefits of what Parliament has awarded itself. Yet the MPs have not fraction of their courage and integrity.

Keddy is one of the biggest welfare bums in the country. I'd give those down and outers a toonie and bit of sympathy.. Keddy just makes me want to throw up.

Fat, lazy, drunk and stupid.. and rich from pilfering.. is no way to go through life, Gerald, you big LOSER.
Last edited by coldstream; Nov 27th, 2009 at 03:03 PM..
 
big
#23
Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

Right. To him it is a job. One he can mentally handle outside of a support system.

Christianity is the best support system for panhandlers.
 
GreenFish66
#24
Quote: Originally Posted by coldstreamView Post

Has anyone taken a look at the pensions that MPs have granted themselves. There is no industry in the country, or the world, except perhaps Wall Street Banking where a short stay will produce life long security.

"Those no-good bastards sitting on the sidewalk in Halifax that can't get work.".. take a look in the mirror you fat lazy slob, pigging out at the public trough.

They no longer even have the courage to vote on their own pensions. They have delegated this to a commission, completely appointed and beholden to their parliamentary masters, to wash their hands of it.

It would be at least a small saving grace if they were actually doing a good job. But the country is in a mess. Look at what the mindless ideology of Free Trade and Economic Liberalism has brought us. Millions are turfed on to dust bin of the new economy as productive economy atrophies. Our stewards are incompetent as well as besotted with greed.

Compare their renumeration and pensions to the soldiers who put themselves in harm's way to defend our freedom. They earn a fraction in benefits of what Parliament has awarded itself. Yet the MPs have not fraction of their courage and integrity.

.

Here Hear ColdStream - Great post
 
big
#25
Quote: Originally Posted by GreenFish66View Post

Here Hear ColdStream - Great post

I would have written: soldiers who put themselves in harm's way to defend politicians’ greed instead of "soldiers who put themselves in harm's way to defend our freedom".
 
Avro
#26
A column by Monte Solberg

I kind of agree with him about this.
 
FiveParadox
#27
Thanks for the link, Avro.

I also agree with that editorial by The Honourable Monte Solberg P.C.; even at the organisation that I work for, we have several dozens of potential candidates turn down employment offers because the rates of pay aren’t high enough, or because the retail industry isn’t something that interests them.

But then at the same time, they mention during their interviews that they’ve been unemployed for sometimes as many as six months, and they don’t understand why they haven’t gotten a job. I can tell you why — the jobs are there, but some people seem to think that they’re above some types of work or others. Let me tell you, if you’re unemployed, take whatever the Hell you can get. Just because you’re a part-time sales associate for a few months while you look for other work doesn’t make retail your career — it makes you realistic.
 
Avro
#28
Oh don't get me wrong, I think Monte is a dickhead as well as most former reformers, I just happen to think he has somewhat of a point here.

Gee I wonder if Monte is enjoying his pension, you know, the one he opted out of then quitely opted in when no one was looking.
 
Nuggler
#29
Quote: Originally Posted by AvroView Post

Oh don't get me wrong, I think Monte is a dickhead as well as most former reformers, I just happen to think he has somewhat of a point here.

Gee I wonder if Monte is enjoying his pension, you know, the one he opted out of then quitely opted in when no one was looking.


Jess lak the restofem.

That trough is a good game. Wish I was yunger..........and cud spel

Add runfer offic
 
Avro
#30
Quote: Originally Posted by NugglerView Post

Jess lak the restofem.

That trough is a good game. Wish I was yunger..........and cud spel

Add runfer offic

Drink much?
 

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