Quote: Originally Posted by Colpy
Clear, absolute, unadulterated bull****.
Hamas never stopped missiles from being fired at Israel.
Hamas never stopped firing missiles at Israel.
Hamas was caught in a tunneling operation into Israel.
Hamas escalated the situation.
The Israelis responded with the purpose of stopping attacks.
The Israelis were successful:
NOTICE! No attacks from Gaza into Israel means no attacks from Israel into Gaza!!!!!
Simple as that: your propagandizing for Islamic fascist terrorists is disgusting in the extreme.
Hamas would have an easier time enforcing the law and arresting people who fire missiles at Israel IF ISRAEL HADN'T KILLED MOST OF THEIR POLICE OFFICERS!!!!!! Read my previous post. Also
...Ms. AbuZayd stressed that, in such a densely packed area as Gaza, it was almost impossible to avoid civilian casualties as “collateral damage”. There were always civilian or United Nations structures around targets. Eight students had died and 12 were still in the hospital. Because targets had included Hamas institutions and police stations, as well as individual houses, people had been warned to leave their houses. As people did not know where to go, 200 had taken refuge in UNRWA schools, which did not function anymore....Quote has been trimmed
(eao: Israel later bombed UNRWA schools)
.... Many of the people who had been killed, including police cadets during their graduation ceremony, had joined the police only recently, because they were unemployed, not because they had any connection to Hamas....
...On Friday, 26 December, the Israelis had said they would wait 48 hours, until Sunday morning, after which they would evaluate. On Friday, only one rocket had been fired. It had been obvious that Hamas had been trying, again, to observe the truce and get it back under control. On Saturday morning, at 11:30 a.m., everything “broke loose”, to everybody’s surprise. After that, the rockets were fired....
PRESS CONFERENCE ON SITUATION IN GAZA
Please spare me your hypocritical holier than thou attitude. I'm correcting previously posted misinformation and bold faced lies. I'm stating the facts as I honestly know them.
For example, you claim: "Hamas was caught in a tunneling operation into Israel."
Like that's a fact. BS! That's what Israel claims. Israel makes a lot of claims, and frequently its misinformation. I find this claim highly doubtful.
If the tunnel was a defensive fortification inside Gaza, then Israel has no business attacking it. If that tunnel crossed into Israel, then where is the evidence? If Israel has evidence to support their claim, why haven't they produced it? Likely they are lying.
On the whole, I'll tend to believe an objective third party over unsubstantiated allegations of one of the belligerents:
Former US President and Nobel Peace Prize Laureate Jimmy Carter:
...After about a month, the Egyptians and Hamas informed us that all military action by both sides and all rocket firing would stop on June 19, for a period of six months, and that humanitarian supplies would be restored to the normal level that had existed before Israel's withdrawal in 2005 (about 700 trucks daily).
We were unable to confirm this in Jerusalem because of Israel's unwillingness to admit to any negotiations with Hamas, but rocket firing was soon stopped and there was an increase in supplies of food, water, medicine and fuel. Yet the increase was to an average of about 20 percent of normal levels. And this fragile truce was partially broken on Nov. 4, when Israel launched an attack in Gaza to destroy a defensive tunnel being dug by Hamas inside the wall that encloses Gaza...
Jimmy Carter - An Unnecessary War - washingtonpost.com (external - login to view)
In others words a legal defensive fortification which probably would have came in handy about 2 months later.
Repeating the same lie over and over, doesn't make it the truth.
A major difference between us is: I don't attempt to justify one sides war crimes and crimes against humanity over the other's. From my viewpoint point, both sides qualify as terrorists. Unlike you, I have never advocated violence. I denounce all war crimes and crimes against humanity.
I find your propagandizing in favor of Israel's war crimes and crimes against humanity... repugnant.
How can someone support Israel's use of chemical weapons on civilians? Didn't you support taking out Saddam Hussein in 2003 because he used CW against civilians back in 1988? I find your support of Israel's CW attacks against civilians shocking, disgusting and more than just a little hypocritical.
How can anyone support Israel's inhumane collective punishment of 1.4 million civilians? Israel's two year blockade of international humanitarian relief has caused tens of thousands of Gaza children to suffer malnourishment, stunted growth and disease. What kind of a person supports CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY?
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