Dion hints at allowing back Liberals ousted in sponsorship scandal

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Liberal Leader Stéphane Dion comes under fire after suggesting the party might let back at least one person who was banned for life over the sponsorship scandal.

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jjaycee98

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Says of Mr Cote` "he has learned his lesson"

And will the stupid electorite think the Liberals have "learned their lesson" and re-elect them?

Dion is a weasle IMO and this just cements that opinion.:pukeright:
 

BitWhys

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After 12 years of Harper majority rule it'll be time to vote in the Democrats.
 

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True, true.....

And after 12 years of Conservative majority rule, it will probably be time to re-elect the Liberals.

Nah....After Mulroney's debt is paid off we can have another Conservative majority government. That would be in about the year, 2040..:?
 

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Nah....After Mulroney's debt is paid off we can have another Conservative majority government. That would be in about the year, 2040..:?

That's what I like about you Juan, you're such an optimist..........

Personally, I think Mulroney was a deep mole planted in the PC Party by the Liberals, and activated on the political demise of Pierre Trudeau...........
 

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first of all the conservative elected this time have far less association with Mulroney years then the liberals have with the Cretien years...many of the same players are there within the liberal party right now. Whereas msot members of the old Mulroney years are long gone from the party....

The Liberals believe they are God's gift to Canada whereas really they are God's gift to Ontario..moreso to Toronto...it has become there only true power base....A base made of people how don't even know there is more to the country than southern Ontario...
 

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first of all the conservative elected this time have far less association with Mulroney years then the liberals have with the Cretien years...many of the same players are there within the liberal party right now. Whereas msot members of the old Mulroney years are long gone from the party....

The Liberals believe they are God's gift to Canada whereas really they are God's gift to Ontario..moreso to Toronto...it has become there only true power base....A base made of people how don't even know there is more to the country than southern Ontario...


AND these folks forget (conveniently) that the current Conservative Party of Canada is made up of old PC folks AND Reform/Alliance. They forget Reform split from the old PC Party because they couldn't STAND Brian Mulroney. A move of principle (get out a dictionary, Liberals) that kept the Liberals in power for 12 years.

This is NOT the PC Party of 1988 or 1992.

NOBODY has split from the Liberal Party on a move for principle, despite their corruption. (Ask me if I'm surprized)

In fact, it looks more and more like the Liberal Party is much the same as it was from 1993 to 2005.
 

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AND these folks forget (conveniently) that the current Conservative Party of Canada is made up of old PC folks AND Reform/Alliance. They forget Reform split from the old PC Party because they couldn't STAND Brian Mulroney...

how could anyone possibly forget that? Mulroney's party was a lot of things but it took the Reformatories to take it over before the CONs turned into FASCISTS.
 

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how could anyone possibly forget that? Mulroney's party was a lot of things but it took the Reformatories to take it over before the CONs turned into FASCISTS.

Now there is an intelligent contribution to the debate............NOT!

Geez, at least the idiots from the Liberal Party used to call us Racists and Fascists.......too much for you to keep straight, I guess.

BTW, do you work for CBC Radio?

AND the NDP is a hell of a lot closer to Stalin than the CPC is to Mussolini.

Those who live in glass houses.........
 
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BitWhys

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Its more intelligent than you realize, otherwise you wouldn't have said that.

I'm disappointed you haven't read my threads about it or been able to figure it out yourself but what the Harpercrats are proposing for the Wheat Board is the very definition of corporatism, which is the economic dimension of FASCISM.

Him being a Calgary School economist I'm sure Harper is well aware of what he's doing. The FASCIST.
 

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Mulroney is a BIG supporter of Harper. Dont forget that!
And it doesn't matter who splits from who. People leave parties anyway. There are Mulroney people in the Harper government, as are Mike Harris people. John Baird was big in the Harris government, who started the horrible workfare program. That government was a disaster!
 

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Half life of political isotope.

Liberal Leader Stéphane Dion comes under fire after suggesting the party might let back at least one person who was banned for life over the sponsorship scandal.

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Short life.:clock:

.......They really are a bunch of greasy bastards.:pukeright:

Gonzo: When I saw Baird getting a position of power in Harper's govt., I got just a cold, empty feeling in my stomach. Harris deja vu....frightening.

.......They really are a bunch of greasy bastards:pukeright:

:grommit:
 

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I for one live in Ontario and liked the Harris government... put extra money in my pocket, made people realize that teachers and government workers had it made and stopped the little kingdoms setup within school boards...

It's amazing to me that talking heads in Toronto will still blame Harris for problems of today...boy they give him a lot more power then he had..don't they?

I love how loose people on these forums are with their terms...facsists?? what the hell..this is a democracy..alway has been,, you think that Harper would cancel elections and rule the world??? what a bunch of simplistic morons....
 

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calling me names and putting words in my mouth isn't going to change anything. its not my fault the term has picked up a plethora of negative connotations. History does that sort of thing. you might want to think about that.

corporatism is the economic dimension of fascism. Harper has no problem with being a part of that, proving his image of being a classical liberal is nothing more than a matter of convenience. cheer on.
 
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calling me names and putting words in my mouth isn't going to change anything. its not my fault the term has picked up a plethora of negative connotations. History does that sort of thing. you might want to think about that.

corporatism is the economic dimension of fascism. Harper has no problem with that. cheer on.

First of all, yes, corporatism is the economic dimension of fascism.

Universal free medical care is a dimension of communism.

This is not a communist country because we have medicare.

The Conservatives are not a Fascist party simply because their policies contain elemments of corporatism.

To continually cry FASCIST is simply a distraction, silly, and infantile. It adds nothing to the debate, in fact it reflects poorly on your own arguments, as it is so patently and so obviously untrue.

On a personal level, I do resent being called a fascist, I am so far from a fascist the label is ludicrous.
 

BitWhys

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The Conservatives are not a Fascist party simply because their policies contain elemments of corporatism...

Yes. Yes they are. To even remotely consider government competing openly with its own industry is ludicrous and speaks volumes about their mindset. Strahl doesn't expect the Board to simply coordinate on the governments behalf (neo-corporatism not uncommon in some social democracies), he expects it compete. I can't simply call it corporatism because that leaves out the active role of government from the equation.

If you have no problems with the Conservatives having fascist policies about one of the West's most essential industries then it shouldn't bother you when I keep mentioning it. You're more than welcome to call the NDP socialist in return. Wouldn't bother me in the least.
 

BitWhys

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... what the hell..this is a democracy..alway has been,, you think that Harper would cancel elections and rule the world??? what a bunch of simplistic morons....

Let's keep in mind that democracy is more than just elections, shall we?...

Hon. Jim Flaherty (Minister of Finance said:
Quite Frankly, Mr. Speaker, it is not the role of the government to just simply legislate a ban on ATM fees.

It is if we want it to be. Somebody's forgetting that political power is arbitrary.:wave: