People are habitual and ritualistic, thus one of the ways to change a culture is to keep the "cerimonies" but change the content to suit your new agenda. I wonder if that is the intent of the "white poppy". Will nov 11 eventually become "world peace day" where we "think of the future" rather than "remember the past"? In the middle of WW1 troops on both sides stopped fighting on Dec 25. Maybe we should use that as a motivator for making Dec 25 "world peace day".
You are correct Bear, the Peaceniks have been selling the white poppy for several years and the Legion has tried to solve this without using the courts but that hasn't worked so now they are considering Legal channels, I'd be happy to donate more to aide them in their suit. One bloody day of the year and the Peaceniks have to make a ta do about it. It's very desrepectful to me and those who have fallen but again this group doesn't appear to respect other opinions just their cause.
war and peace define each other, should not both be remembered?
do people fight for war, or fight for the end of war?
Now, I can understand the grumpies grumping about "money given to the white poppy doesn't go to the vets".
But what is the bigger picture here?
The people, or the peace?
Both need the stage.
Take peace not for granted.
Take war not as just a part of the past.
We need to remember our own hypocricies, most of all.
Correct Bear, do you see those of us who are not peaceniks spoiling something that is important to them, NO. I don't go to peace rallies and heckle peaceniks I respect their right to speak out on what ever issue that is important to them. This isn't an issue it's part of our customs and traditions in Canada, why do the peaceniks feel the need to insult us on this day? Because you are insulting me and I'm tired of this extreme left leaning forum, the peaceniks have the advantage here but those of us whom oppose your views are scorned. Without a mix of people posting on this forum the peaceniks will be talking to themselves.
don't those types of counter-message movements occur? I have heard of a few.
I am just trying to understand how people that fought for peace are so upset about this.