Clever Clogs
Posts: 647 
August 15th, 2006, 06:26 PM
Quite frankly if the best you can do on any issue is say Paul Martin did it then why do we need a conservative government?
Oh I forgot the big conservatives like to carry their arms to hunt down 10 year olds. And then when challenged they call people childish. These policies are barbaric and this idiotic defense of them is inexcusable.
The way to reduce crime is create an anti-gun nation. That is where the real danger is.
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Harper is PM and he ran on a platform to clean up government. It's his job to monitor the government and they are his flunkies. He's failed and should be removed.
Neither of them were appointed or hired by Harper, in fact both of them were hired by Paul Martin and his Government, MORE mis-information, obviously you enjoy looking ignorant, and childishly biased.
Quite frankly if the best you can do on any issue is say Paul Martin did it then why do we need a conservative government?
Oh I forgot the big conservatives like to carry their arms to hunt down 10 year olds. And then when challenged they call people childish. These policies are barbaric and this idiotic defense of them is inexcusable.
The way to reduce crime is create an anti-gun nation. That is where the real danger is.
Member
Posts: 54
Location: Toronto
Location: Toronto
August 15th, 2006, 06:42 PM
In our society where adults rarely take responsibility for their own actions I am hardly surprised that kids don't either. We are so determined to blame everyone else and not ourselves...kids learn what they see!
"I spilled hot coffee on myself...what a klutz! Oh wait...not my fault...better blame someone else!"
I raped a woman...but I was drunk...not my fault!"
I think kids are surrounded by so much more violence in the news, movies, video games, between parents and in schools, on the street on the bus. I think kids do need to be taught how to be responsible for their actions, but at the same time...they're kids, they dont' always know or understand the consequences of their own actions.
In our society where adults rarely take responsibility for their own actions I am hardly surprised that kids don't either. We are so determined to blame everyone else and not ourselves...kids learn what they see!
"I spilled hot coffee on myself...what a klutz! Oh wait...not my fault...better blame someone else!"
I raped a woman...but I was drunk...not my fault!"
I think kids are surrounded by so much more violence in the news, movies, video games, between parents and in schools, on the street on the bus. I think kids do need to be taught how to be responsible for their actions, but at the same time...they're kids, they dont' always know or understand the consequences of their own actions.
Clever Clogs
Posts: 647
August 15th, 2006, 06:44 PM
http://www.pwgsc.gc.ca/text/bios/sa-abt-e.html
http://www.pwgsc.gc.ca/text/bios/sa-abt-e.html
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Well they must have had Rotor in the wings as it looks like they wasted no time in hiring him right after the election. I really doubt the liberals snuck someone this significant in at end.
Mr. David Rotor was appointed to the position of Special Advisor to the Deputy Minister, Acquisitions Business Transformation, in January, 2006.
Mr. Rotor will be accountable for leading an unprecedented transformation of the federal government’s $13 billion per year acquisitions business, and for providing authoritative advice and recommendations to the Minister and Deputy Minister, in order to create the optimum value-for-money approach to meet the acquisitions needs of the Government.
Mr. Rotor will be accountable for leading an unprecedented transformation of the federal government’s $13 billion per year acquisitions business, and for providing authoritative advice and recommendations to the Minister and Deputy Minister, in order to create the optimum value-for-money approach to meet the acquisitions needs of the Government.
August 15th, 2006, 07:21 PM
But you've practically sold me on not voting for the conservatives again. If this is the kind os attitude the compassionate conservatives in this country are going to take, I'll be more than happy to punt.
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Please don't tell me you believe Harper is working on global warming. I didn't think there were any turnip trucks around here.
Aids might be a big threat but it doesn't register large in Canada. There are groups bound and determined that it should. But they can stand in line. Global warming is a far bigger issue for me. As well as the maintenance of biodiversity. Of my top 20 concerns Aids ain't on the ticket. After watching a couple of documentaries on the spread of the disease in Africa and the mindbogglingly cavalier attitude so many have there, carried by CBC earlier this year, I'm surprised it's on anyone's list.
But you've practically sold me on not voting for the conservatives again. If this is the kind os attitude the compassionate conservatives in this country are going to take, I'll be more than happy to punt.
Member
Posts: 197
Location: Sarnia, Ontario
Location: Sarnia, Ontario
August 15th, 2006, 07:22 PM
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Well I hope they're in Quebec because otherwise the Harpercrites and Cons are finished.
1, 2, 3, 4 5 6 7 8 9, 10, 15, 20 50 100, 500.
- a running total of people sanch helps convince to vote for the conservatives just by speaking.
- a running total of people sanch helps convince to vote for the conservatives just by speaking.
Electoral Member
Posts: 344
August 15th, 2006, 10:58 PM
Man sanch you are really showing your ignorance, Harper didn't take office until Feb. 6th.
and REGARDLESS of who was in office, this really isn't a partisan issue, this was a couple of guys either badly managing there time or at most skipping out on a few meetings. Which has NOTHING to do with the government. Accountability comes in with the fact that they will be investigated (if there is something to investigate) and they will be held accountable if they did something wrong.
Or do you expect Harper and his government to read in to the future.
500, 1000, 5000 (keep going sanch)
Man sanch you are really showing your ignorance, Harper didn't take office until Feb. 6th.
and REGARDLESS of who was in office, this really isn't a partisan issue, this was a couple of guys either badly managing there time or at most skipping out on a few meetings. Which has NOTHING to do with the government. Accountability comes in with the fact that they will be investigated (if there is something to investigate) and they will be held accountable if they did something wrong.
Or do you expect Harper and his government to read in to the future.
500, 1000, 5000 (keep going sanch)
House Member
Posts: 3,167
August 16th, 2006, 06:09 AM
"But you've practically sold me on not voting for the conservatives again. If this is the kind os attitude the compassionate conservatives in this country are going to take, I'll be more than happy to punt."
Kreskin, surely you'll not vote based strictly on a single issue or two. 'I'm voting for the party with the best Aids position...' That's a tad over the top. I'm not entirely happy with Harper and you're right - some issues important to me won't register with the lad - but in Canadian politics we never get entirely what we want.
"But you've practically sold me on not voting for the conservatives again. If this is the kind os attitude the compassionate conservatives in this country are going to take, I'll be more than happy to punt."
Kreskin, surely you'll not vote based strictly on a single issue or two. 'I'm voting for the party with the best Aids position...' That's a tad over the top. I'm not entirely happy with Harper and you're right - some issues important to me won't register with the lad - but in Canadian politics we never get entirely what we want.
Clever Clogs
Posts: 647
August 16th, 2006, 06:35 AM
Rotor reports to the deputy minister and minister. This is a very high level appointment.
This is very much a partisan issue. Harper campaigned on reforming government. He has done nothing but try and play the corrupt system.
The major problem and detriment for conservatives is their lack of maturity and intellectual capability. There is a heavy reliance for thought on right wing puppeteers such as Ann Coulter and we see an abundance of her myopic witticisms in Graeme’s posts. “sanch you are really showing your ignorance” is a straight Coulterism. It’s like you’re addicted to baby pabulum.
Coulter is an ideologue and every pitch or hit from conservatives is a home run or grand slam to her. Not just picking on Coulter as she is just an example of a trend. Still there are a lot of foul balls and missed hits here by Harper and troop and to call all these home runs is delusional.
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This is utter nonsense. First www.google.com. Google is a search engine. Try backing up some of this stupidity.
Man sanch you are really showing your ignorance, Harper didn't take office until Feb. 6th.
and REGARDLESS of who was in office, this really isn't a partisan issue, this was a couple of guys either badly managing there time or at most skipping out on a few meetings. Which has NOTHING to do with the government. Accountability comes in with the fact that they will be investigated (if there is something to investigate) and they will be held accountable if they did something wrong.
Or do you expect Harper and his government to read in to the future.
500, 1000, 5000 (keep going sanch)
and REGARDLESS of who was in office, this really isn't a partisan issue, this was a couple of guys either badly managing there time or at most skipping out on a few meetings. Which has NOTHING to do with the government. Accountability comes in with the fact that they will be investigated (if there is something to investigate) and they will be held accountable if they did something wrong.
Or do you expect Harper and his government to read in to the future.
500, 1000, 5000 (keep going sanch)
Rotor reports to the deputy minister and minister. This is a very high level appointment.
This is very much a partisan issue. Harper campaigned on reforming government. He has done nothing but try and play the corrupt system.
The major problem and detriment for conservatives is their lack of maturity and intellectual capability. There is a heavy reliance for thought on right wing puppeteers such as Ann Coulter and we see an abundance of her myopic witticisms in Graeme’s posts. “sanch you are really showing your ignorance” is a straight Coulterism. It’s like you’re addicted to baby pabulum.
Coulter is an ideologue and every pitch or hit from conservatives is a home run or grand slam to her. Not just picking on Coulter as she is just an example of a trend. Still there are a lot of foul balls and missed hits here by Harper and troop and to call all these home runs is delusional.
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I think you may be in the wrong country. There is no tradition or mechansim in Canada for investigating corruption. Did you not listen to any of Harper's campaign speaches? Apparently not. Try reading the Gomery report.
Accountability comes in with the fact that they will be investigated (if there is something to investigate) and they will be held accountable if they did something wrong.
Electoral Member
Posts: 344
August 16th, 2006, 06:08 PM
google search for "stephen harper took office on"
(...10 000)
http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=...lity+act&meta=
google search for "accountability act"
[quote]This is very much a partisan issue. Harper campaigned on reforming government. He has done nothing but try and play the corrupt system. [quote]
hmm you nestled one true statement between 2 false ones.... is this like the game "which one of these, is not like the other"?
Statement 1.) Two men with free will, who are not "partisan" in their civil service do something in another country, for which there may or may not be an excuse.... What makes this partisan?
2.) Yes - He did
3.) So which specific case of harper playing the "corrupt" system are you referring?
Please see Google search for Accountability Act, you can learn all you need to know: what it contains, when it will likely be passed in to law, what amendments have been made by the committee, parliament, and I think senate.
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http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=...ffice+on&meta=
This is utter nonsense. First Link Google is a search engine. Try backing up some of this stupidity.
google search for "stephen harper took office on"
(...10 000)
http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=...lity+act&meta=
google search for "accountability act"
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Rather moot considering they were in England at the time with very little contact or exercisable control by the minister or deputy minister.
Rotor reports to the deputy minister and minister. This is a very high level appointment.
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well this came out of left field and I will not properly address any of it.
The major problem and detriment for conservatives is their lack of maturity and intellectual capability. There is a heavy reliance for thought on right wing puppeteers such as Ann Coulter and we see an abundance of her myopic witticisms in Graeme’s posts. “sanch you are really showing your ignorance” is a straight Coulterism. It’s like you’re addicted to baby pabulum.
Coulter is an ideologue and every pitch or hit from conservatives is a home run or grand slam to her. Not just picking on Coulter as she is just an example of a trend. Still there are a lot of foul balls and missed hits here by Harper and troop and to call all these home runs is delusional.
Coulter is an ideologue and every pitch or hit from conservatives is a home run or grand slam to her. Not just picking on Coulter as she is just an example of a trend. Still there are a lot of foul balls and missed hits here by Harper and troop and to call all these home runs is delusional.
[quote]This is very much a partisan issue. Harper campaigned on reforming government. He has done nothing but try and play the corrupt system. [quote]
hmm you nestled one true statement between 2 false ones.... is this like the game "which one of these, is not like the other"?
Statement 1.) Two men with free will, who are not "partisan" in their civil service do something in another country, for which there may or may not be an excuse.... What makes this partisan?
2.) Yes - He did
3.) So which specific case of harper playing the "corrupt" system are you referring?
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I didn't make any mention of a "tradition or mechanism in Canada for investigating corruption" although there is one, but I didn't mention it, PLUS it is being re-vamped!
I think you may be in the wrong country. There is no tradition or mechansim in Canada for investigating corruption. Did you not listen to any of Harper's campaign speaches? Apparently not. Try reading the Gomery report.
Please see Google search for Accountability Act, you can learn all you need to know: what it contains, when it will likely be passed in to law, what amendments have been made by the committee, parliament, and I think senate.
