US Beef BAN LIFTED...:-)

US Beef BAN LIFTED...:-)

Ocean Breeze

#1Jul 14th, 2005

Breaking news. US lifts ban to CA beef. Montana's obstructionist politics have delayed this too long anyhow. US finds their own case of BSE........and shortly thereafter the ban is lifted.

dirty politics rule over any genuine safety concerns.---as per usual.......but still a step in the right direction. Hopefully this will go a ways to settle things down a tad.

Ocean Breeze

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Jul 23rd, 2005

http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/natio...bse050722.html

Montana playing games again.....

manda

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Jul 23rd, 2005

We should refuse to allow their beef into the country... we could then boost the economy, and not have to worry about government dollars needed. Think about it. With all the fast food joints around, If they had to use canadian beef, the industry would skyrocket! That's called taking care of our own

Canucklehead

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Jul 23rd, 2005

Quote: Originally Posted by manda

We should refuse to allow their beef into the country... we could then boost the economy, and not have to worry about government dollars needed. Think about it. With all the fast food joints around, If they had to use canadian beef, the industry would skyrocket! That's called taking care of our own

I like the way you think manda

It's far past time we started looking out for ourselves instead of having to play these silly trade games every couple of years.

Ocean Breeze

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Jul 23rd, 2005

Quote: Originally Posted by Canucklehead

Quote: Originally Posted by manda
We should refuse to allow their beef into the country... we could then boost the economy, and not have to worry about government dollars needed. Think about it. With all the fast food joints around, If they had to use canadian beef, the industry would skyrocket! That's called taking care of our own
I like the way you think manda It's far past time we started looking out for ourselves instead of having to play these silly trade games every couple of years.

agree. decrease reliance on the US market. Enough of this getting jerked around , under the guise of what ever spin they put on it. Montana in particular has been a thorn in the butt for some time now. Furthermore they sure don't give a damn about anyone else except themselves and their bottom line. enough of this one sided crap........time to make a few subtle and not so subtle changes.

manda

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Jul 23rd, 2005

It's not that I think that we should try to impoverish any other nations, but why see ours suffer. Charity begins at home, so I'm told, and I would rather see farmers in my country flourish, than wither out because we choose to import what is readily available in front of our noses, be it beef, potato's , lobster, wool,lumber,oil, whatever. Why go elsewhere when we have our own supplies to meet our demand, and see our own economy grow,reversing the down trend that it has seen. I don't understand why our politicians, who are supposed to be looking out for our best intrest, won't realize this

Canucklehead

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Jul 23rd, 2005

Quote: Originally Posted by manda

It's not that I think that we should try to impoverish any other nations, but why see ours suffer. Charity begins at home, so I'm told, and I would rather see farmers in my country flourish, than wither out because we choose to import what is readily available in front of our noses, be it beef, potato's , lobster, wool,lumber,oil, whatever. Why go elsewhere when we have our own supplies to meet our demand, and see our own economy grow,reversing the down trend that it has seen. I don't understand why our politicians, who are supposed to be looking out for our best intrest, won't realize this

I wouldn't want to see anyone impoverished deliberately either but if ANY other country decides they want what we have, they have to realise that we have our own system of doing things that may be different from theirs. If they get themselves into contracts that are later found to disadvantage their own industry then the only recourse would(should) be to honour the contract and not renew. (NAFTA, anyone?) I am thinking of stumpage fees and our BSE testing system (which ironically the U.S. is implementing almost to the point of plagurism(sp?))

Another very controversial thought would be our oil supplies. We produce the stuff and should be supplying our populous with it at almost cost like the ME countries do. The U.S. saves a bundle on the shipping from Canada to the U.S vs. ME to U.S. so why not bump our prices just slightly to cover the reduced profit from domestic sales? It'd still be cheaper for the U.S. ,or at worst, equivelant to the prices paid for overseas oil.

Ocean Breeze

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Jul 23rd, 2005

manda and C.head. LOVE your thinking. Smart ideas. And they don't hurt anyone , while enhancing our own country.....as good ideas should.

bravo.

manda

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Jul 23rd, 2005

plagarism. I believe that we should all take a step back and examine how much each country really needs to import from other countries. Screw friendly deals and ties with other nations, worry about feeding the people you represent first and then ship in only what is needed. Can we charge the US with plagarism? I know that you can be expelled from University. There should be some consequence

manda

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Jul 23rd, 2005

Quote: Originally Posted by Ocean Breeze

manda and C.head. LOVE your thinking. Smart ideas. And they don't hurt anyone , while enhancing our own country.....as good ideas should.

bravo.

Thanks Ocean, you make a lot of sense in your posts too. I enjoy reading them. If only we could rule the country for a week. Oh the changes I would make.....

Ocean Breeze

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Jul 23rd, 2005

Quote: Originally Posted by manda

plagarism. I believe that we should all take a step back and examine how much each country really needs to import from other countries. Screw friendly deals and ties with other nations, worry about feeding the people you represent first and then ship in only what is needed. Can we charge the US with plagarism? I know that you can be expelled from University. There should be some consequence

good points. in other words take back the power and independance , maximize and develope what one has , employ our own people etc.

immigration laws might need some re-evaluation. Making sure Canadians get first dibs at jobs etc.

manda

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Jul 23rd, 2005

Quote: Originally Posted by Ocean Breeze

Quote: Originally Posted by manda
plagarism. I believe that we should all take a step back and examine how much each country really needs to import from other countries. Screw friendly deals and ties with other nations, worry about feeding the people you represent first and then ship in only what is needed. Can we charge the US with plagarism? I know that you can be expelled from University. There should be some consequence
good points. in other words take back the power and independance , maximize and develope what one has , employ our own people etc.

Bang on. I m sure I could find a better job if this system was implemented, allowing me and Many others to better provide for their families. Instead, I sit in a call center.

Ocean Breeze

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Jul 23rd, 2005

Quote: Originally Posted by manda

Quote: Originally Posted by Ocean Breeze
manda and C.head. LOVE your thinking. Smart ideas. And they don't hurt anyone , while enhancing our own country.....as good ideas should.

bravo.
Thanks Ocean, you make a lot of sense in your posts too. I enjoy reading them. If only we could rule the country for a week. Oh the changes I would make.....

I was just thinking that !! (telepathy???

We would call it "common sense " Governing.

manda

#14

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Jul 23rd, 2005

Quote: Originally Posted by Ocean Breeze

Quote: Originally Posted by manda
Quote: Originally Posted by Ocean Breeze
manda and C.head. LOVE your thinking. Smart ideas. And they don't hurt anyone , while enhancing our own country.....as good ideas should.

bravo.
Thanks Ocean, you make a lot of sense in your posts too. I enjoy reading them. If only we could rule the country for a week. Oh the changes I would make.....

I was just thinking that !! (telepathy??? We would call it "common sense " Governing.

common sense governing? well, wouldn't that just blow the worlds politicians out of the water :P Funny how the things that seem to make the most sense are exactly the things that world leaders seem to avoid. Purposely perhaps? meh, goverments as they are just make me want to vomit.

Canucklehead

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Jul 23rd, 2005

Quote: Originally Posted by Ocean Breeze

Quote: Originally Posted by manda
Quote: Originally Posted by Ocean Breeze
manda and C.head. LOVE your thinking. Smart ideas. And they don't hurt anyone , while enhancing our own country.....as good ideas should.

bravo.
Thanks Ocean, you make a lot of sense in your posts too. I enjoy reading them. If only we could rule the country for a week. Oh the changes I would make.....

I was just thinking that !! (telepathy??? We would call it "common sense " Governing.

That must be a subconscious dream for a lot of us.

manda

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Jul 23rd, 2005

Quote: Originally Posted by Canucklehead

Quote: Originally Posted by Ocean BreezeQuote: Originally Posted by mandaQuote: Originally Posted by Ocean Breezemanda and C.head. LOVE your thinking. Smart ideas. And they don't hurt anyone , while enhancing our own country.....as good ideas should.
bravo.Thanks Ocean, you make a lot of sense in your posts too. I enjoy reading them. If only we could rule the country for a week. Oh the changes I would make.....
I was just thinking that !! (telepathy??? We would call it "common sense " Governing. That must be a subconscious dream for a lot of us.

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The times, they are a changin'. If only this was a pirate ship, mutiny would be easy to acheive, without being charged with treason

Ocean Breeze

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Jul 23rd, 2005

Quote: Originally Posted by manda

Quote: Originally Posted by Ocean BreezeQuote: Originally Posted by mandaQuote: Originally Posted by Ocean Breezemanda and C.head. LOVE your thinking. Smart ideas. And they don't hurt anyone , while enhancing our own country.....as good ideas should.
bravo.Thanks Ocean, you make a lot of sense in your posts too. I enjoy reading them. If only we could rule the country for a week. Oh the changes I would make.....
I was just thinking that !! (telepathy??? We would call it "common sense " Governing. common sense governing? well, wouldn't that just blow the worlds politicians out of the water :P Funny how the things that seem to make the most sense are exactly the things that world leaders seem to avoid. Purposely perhaps? meh, goverments as they are just make me want to vomit.
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I "swear" that when politicians go to "politician" school , the first thing they are taught (brainwashed) is to forget common sense and logic. Next they are orientated /hooked up to the spin machine........ and the end product is a cunning , manipulative ,lying SOB. Whom we , are foolish enough to vote into power.

manda

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Jul 23rd, 2005

Lets all move to mars and start over.

Canucklehead

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Jul 23rd, 2005

Quote: Originally Posted by manda

Lets all move to mars and start over.

Seeing as Men are from Mars, I bet you'd like that, wouldntcha

My vote is for Venus :P

Ocean Breeze

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Jul 23rd, 2005

Quote: Originally Posted by Canucklehead

Quote: Originally Posted by manda
Lets all move to mars and start over.
Seeing as Men are from Mars, I bet you'd like that, wouldntcha

My vote is for Venus :P

jolly good stuff folks. First item on the agenda: Construct a fast tram between both planets..

another idea might be to send the US to Mars.......or better still Pluto.....and they can rule a US Plutonian empire to their hearts content.

manda

#21

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Jul 24th, 2005

Quote: Originally Posted by Ocean Breeze

Quote: Originally Posted by Canucklehead
Quote: Originally Posted by manda
Lets all move to mars and start over.
Seeing as Men are from Mars, I bet you'd like that, wouldntcha

My vote is for Venus :P

jolly good stuff folks. First item on the agenda: Construct a fast tram between both planets..

another idea might be to send the US to Mars.......or better still Pluto.....and they can rule a US Plutonian empire to their hearts content.

You know, that plan just might work! If they ever get the shuttle off the ground. Yipes Canucklehead, ya got me figured out

Ocean Breeze

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Jul 24th, 2005

Quote: Originally Posted by manda

Quote: Originally Posted by Ocean BreezeQuote: Originally Posted by CanuckleheadQuote: Originally Posted by mandaLets all move to mars and start over.Seeing as Men are from Mars, I bet you'd like that, wouldntcha
My vote is for Venus :P
jolly good stuff folks. First item on the agenda: Construct a fast tram between both planets..
another idea might be to send the US to Mars.......or better still Pluto.....and they can rule a US Plutonian empire to their hearts content. You know, that plan just might work! If they ever get the shuttle off the ground. Yipes Canucklehead, ya got me...
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the more I think about it , the better I like it. "they" want to control THIS planet so much......why not send them to another and they can call it their own. Heck , would even rename the planet as US of Pluto/ Jupiter or whatever. Not sure an immediate neighboring planet would be a good idea.....as sure as heck they will continue to send bombs here.

no1important

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Jul 27th, 2005

I see the appeals court that released its ruling tore a strip off that moron judge in Montana.

EDMONTON -- A Montana federal judge used "alarmist findings," gave "baseless" criticisms and was "premised on legal error" when he banned Canadian cattle imports because of the mad cow scare, said the appeals judges who overturned his ruling earlier this month.

read the rest here

Ocean Breeze

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Jul 27th, 2005

Quote: Originally Posted by no1important

I see the appeals court that released its ruling tore a strip off that moron judge in Montana.

EDMONTON -- A Montana federal judge used "alarmist findings," gave "baseless" criticisms and was "premised on legal error" when he banned Canadian cattle imports because of the mad cow scare, said the appeals judges who overturned his ruling earlier this month.

read the rest here

this "judge" is a real moron. ( he does not even sound like a judge or a rational /logical legal type) Gotta wonder if he is bought and paid for by the Montana Cattle group.

no1important

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Jul 27th, 2005

He is probably elected and the cattle industry finances his campaign. I wonder how one could find out? Nevertheless I will see if I can.

Ocean Breeze

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Jul 27th, 2005

Quote: Originally Posted by no1important

He is probably elected and the cattle industry finances his campaign. I wonder how one could find out? Nevertheless I will see if I can.

excellent. and thanks. Should be "interesting"...

Jo Canadian

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Jul 27th, 2005

no1important

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Jul 27th, 2005

He is not elected. He was promoted Sept 4 2001. He had to be nominated by the US President and confirmed by the senate.

United States Magistrate Judge
Richard F. Cebull Elevated to District Judge

Jo Canadian

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Jul 27th, 2005

Ocean Breeze

#30

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Jul 27th, 2005

http://www.cbc.ca/story/world/nation...ow-050727.html

Possible third case of BSE found in the US.

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