The word "girl" not acceptable anymore?.........


DaSleeper
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BBC Ban The Use of The Word 'Girl', But Is It A Sexist Term?


When we're at school, we expect to be described as 'girls' - but is the term an acceptable way to address adult women?
The BBC took the decision to censor the word 'girl' in a recent broadcast on the grounds that it could be considered sexist.
Presenter Mark Beaumont was being filmed sparring with judo champion Cynthia Rahming and after he was sent crashing to the floor, he said: “I am not sure I can live that down - being beaten by a 19-year-old girl.”

When the episode of The Queen's Baton Relay was originally aired in April on the BBC News channel, the remark was broadcast in full.


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Corduroy
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The whole sentence is sexist and if you censor it, it probably sounds worse. You were beaten by a what now?
 
B00Mer
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#3
Please girl friend.
 
SLM
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#4  Top Rated Post
Quote: Originally Posted by DaSleeperView Post

BBC Ban The Use of The Word 'Girl', But Is It A Sexist Term?

Bitch, please! Lol

Wonder how they're going to refer to non-adults of the female persuasion now. Little women? Bah, that's sounds even worse, it sounds condescending.

Grand scheme of things, molehill into mountain, yet again.
 
eh1eh
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Quote: Originally Posted by SLMView Post

Bitch, please! Lol

Wonder how they're going to refer to non-adults of the female persuasion now. Little women? Bah, that's sounds even worse, it sounds condescending.

Grand scheme of things, molehill into mountain, yet again.

Prepubescent human entities, non male.
 
Twila
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Quote: Originally Posted by eh1ehView Post

Prepubescent human entities, non male.

Phenm? awkward but do-able.
 
SLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by eh1ehView Post

Prepubescent human entities, non male.

Noooooo

Quote: Originally Posted by TwilaView Post

Phenm? awkward but do-able.

Oh that makes it worse. Now I'm hearing that with a stodgy British accent.
 
Twila
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Quote: Originally Posted by SLMView Post

Noooooo



Oh that makes it worse. Now I'm hearing that with a stodgy British accent.

You might he right on that. Boys would be phems...that could cause some problems
..
 
SLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by TwilaView Post

You might he right on that. Boys would be phems...that could cause some problems
..

Maybe instead of inventing new words when we have perfectly good ones just lying around, we should instead look at things like context and intent. That's just my thought on the whole thing.

I've witnessed people who use the most inoffensive words say some of the most condescending things, lol. The problems aren't with the words it's with the people on both the speaking and listening ends of things.
 
lone wolf
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Good thing they have picture signs on washroom doors ... or is that next?
 
eh1eh
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Quote: Originally Posted by TwilaView Post

Phenm? awkward but do-able.

Like feminine. I am an unwitting genius.


Quote: Originally Posted by SLMView Post

Noooooo



Oh that makes it worse. Now I'm hearing that with a stodgy British accent.


See above. lol.
 
BaalsTears
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The word "female" works just fine. The word can be supplemented with the terms "young" and "old."
 
eh1eh
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Quote: Originally Posted by BaalsTearsView Post

The word "female" works just fine. The word can be supplemented with the terms "young" and "old."

Don't convolute the discussion with logic.
 
Praxius
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So I guess that also means we older folk can't call any males under 30 "Boys?"

What about "Girly Girl?" Can't say that anymore either?

What if I was beaten in a Judo competition by a "Little Person?" Can't say "I got beaten by a midget" anymore?

Seriously though... saying girl to an adult woman is "Sexist" now?

Grow the fk up and maybe you won't be called a girl anymore.

Same applies to "boys" who think they're king sh*ts and know everything whom just got out of college.

In the context of the OP, he got beaten by an experienced judo champion and said “I am not sure I can live that down - being beaten by a 19-year-old girl.”

That's more of a jab at himself than it is to her

From the above report:
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Rahming told The Mail on Sunday that she "wasn't offended" by the exchange,....

Case closed..... oh but wait, it's not. Some Feminist Extremist Dou*he'baggery is afoot:

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.... but it seems a lot of other women wouldn't have been quite so forgiving.

Lecturer in literature and public engagement and HuffPost UK Blogger B.J. Epstein does not think that women should be referred to as 'girls'.

"I really dislike the word girl! I think it’s appropriate to use it to refer to females up until, say, the age of 11 or 12, but not after that.

Fer fk sakes, so she gets to choose when it's appropriate? I know a lot of people who still consider toddlers as babies.... anybody under the age of 18 (and even up to age 23) I will refer to as a "Kid" or "Boy" or "Girl" depending on their attitude and the situation.

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"I find it offensive when people refer to young women or adult females as “girls” because it diminishes who and what we are, and makes us seem young and unimportant," she said.

Huh? Being Young or Young Looking is a bad thing now?

Young people aren't important or can do important things?

Now who's being offensive??

Quote:

Epstein also highlighted the different ways men and women are addressed:

"I would never refer to colleagues as “boys”, nor would I call grown men “boys”, and yet people, especially men, continually do this to me and to other women.

She's got the blinders on, that's for sure.

Hell, Justin Trudeau is 42 years old and yet many still call him a kid or a boy.

A few years back I was in a bar having some vodka and a girl started to talk to me, so we got into a conversation. She was in University studying psychology and apparently wanted to try her skills on me after a bit. She asked how old I was and at the time I was 23. She laughed and said "Oh jeez, you're still a kid."

I asked her how old she was and she was 26..... ffs, really? I'm the kid huh?

I'm a graphic designer in a photography studio with a paying full time job and she's the one still in school. I let it slide and kept mature, just continuing the conversation, but then she started to try the probing and brain tests. Me already being a little drunk, she must have thought that would have been an easy task.

She assumed I still wasn't doing my "Dream Job" or finally settled down, etc..... which I responded, "Being 23 years of age, let alone being in your 20's, that's a general statement that could apply to anybody including yourself."

Eventually I wished her well hoped she had a good night and continued on with my own night. Later on the dance floor I saw her slowly grooving her way towards me, realizing I wasn't your typical "Boy" trying to pick her up as she didn't phase me with her analysis.

.... But I was too drunk by that time and figured I'd grab the last bus home for the night.

Point being, even though this lady doesn't call other males "Boys" or "Kids" that doesn't automatically mean it doesn't happen.

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"I don’t think we need to ban the usage of the word, as it is appropriate for some people in some situations. But I do think we need to encourage mindfulness about language in general, and the employment of this word specifically."

How about you grow up, grow a thicker skin and worry about more serious issues?

Talk about "1st World" problems....
Last edited by Praxius; May 29th, 2014 at 07:33 PM..
 
DaSleeper
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Quote: Originally Posted by lone wolfView Post

Good thing they have picture signs on washroom doors ... or is that next?

I'm gonna have to ask this blind man I see sometimes at Tim Horton, exactly what it says in braille on the doors at Tim and McDonalds....
 
gerryh
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Quote: Originally Posted by DaSleeperView Post

I'm gonna have to ask this blind man I see sometimes at Tim Horton, exactly what it says in braille on the doors at Tim and McDonalds....


pus sy.......di ck

Inny....... outy
 
Locutus
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I use the term 'Miss' when addressing a lot of women.

I think I'm supposed to 'feel bad' about that now.
 
Praxius
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Quote: Originally Posted by LocutusView Post

I use the term 'Miss' when addressing a lot of women.

I think I'm supposed to 'feel bad' about that now.

They might take offense if they're married, thinking you're implying they couldn't land a husband or something.

Or they might see it as a compliment for looking young.... Who the hell knows anymore?
 
SLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by LocutusView Post

I use the term 'Miss' when addressing a lot of women.

I think I'm supposed to 'feel bad' about that now.

No, no. "Miss" is more than acceptable, particularly when addressing a woman who is clearly not a 'Miss'. Just remember to keep the sarcasm out of your voice. (Pro tip for ya there darlin')

"Ma'am" should only be used with the right amount of respect in your tone or, in the right circumstances, fear.

Keep those straight, you're golden.
 
gopher
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Quote: Originally Posted by LocutusView Post

I use the term 'Miss' when addressing a lot of women.

I think I'm supposed to 'feel bad' about that now.




France considered dropping the term mademoiselle ("Miss") but reconsidered it so that the term is used in the French Open tennis. BBC uses the term boys or lads for soccer so the word girl is ok as well.
 
Blackleaf
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People have to remember that the "impartial" BBC is the most left-wing, liberal, politically correct organisation in the world and, for some years now, the "impartial" (which it is meant to be but isn't) BBC has had a left wing, liberal, PC bias.

Like Western society in general, the BBC asylum has been overrun by the left wing loony inmates. This is an organisation that bizarrely says calling a girl a "girl" is sexist and edits the use of the word from one of its Glasgow 2014 Commonwealth Games videos, yet has no problem with people saying the word f*ck on its dramas and comedy celebrity panel shows (the BBC comedy celebrity panel shows, like QI and Mock the Week, are just tools for left wing celebrities to make prats of themselves in front of the nation).

So you can't say "g*rl" but you can say f uck".

This is just what happens when the left wing loonies manage to take over the asylum. It's no wonder Ukip are doing so well. Ukip are the party which will supply the large nets and straitjackets. Our Western societies have become large versions of One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest.
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"I find it offensive when people refer to young women or adult females as “girls” because it diminishes who and what we are, and makes us seem young and unimportant," she said.

The thing is, this dopey woman doesn't realise that 99.9% of people have no problem with women being referred to as "girls". It is only her and one or two other feminazi weirdos who have such a problem with it. So she may feel "offended" by it but hardly anyone else does, yet she thinks we should stop calling women "girls" just because SHE finds it offensive.
Quote: Originally Posted by LocutusView Post

I use the term 'Miss' when addressing a lot of women.

I think I'm supposed to 'feel bad' about that now.

You may have only been sarcastic but, believe it or not, you ARE supposed to feel bad about that! Apparently you are "discrimnating against women" because "miss" is lower-ranked than "sir".

Some feminazi with too much time on her hands has decided that the centuries-old tradition of British pupils politely addressing their teachers as "Miss" or "Sir" should be axed because they "discriminate against women".

Of course, starting to call teachers by their first names will be another step away discipline and respect for teachers in our schools, which have suffered a lot in recent years since the liberal takeover of our schools, but I doubt Miss Coates, who is somehow the emeritus professor of English language and linguistics at Roehampton University, is too bothered by that.

Stop calling teachers 'Miss' or 'Sir', pupils are told

The Telegraph
13 May 2014

Traditional teachers’ titles such as “Sir” and “Miss” should be consigned to history because they discriminate against women, according to academics.

Pupils should be encouraged to use teachers’ first names to bring schools "up-to-date" and ensure children are not exposed “to the prejudices of the previous generation”, it was claimed.

Experts said the use of "Sir" for men and "Miss" for all female teachers – irrespective of marital status – was old-fashioned and “embodies the massive status disparity and sexism of previous years”.

But one school leader defended the terms, insisting they represented a mark of respect.

The titles, which have been used by generations of British schoolchildren, can be traced back centuries, it emerged.

According to the Times Educational Supplement, Sir was first used in 16th century classrooms when male teachers of a lower social standing were attempting to reinforce their authority among largely upper-class boys.

Miss is largely a throwback to the late Victorian era when pressure was put on women to give up work after they married, with a number of schools only hiring single female teachers.

Jennifer Coates, emeritus professor of English language and linguistics at Roehampton University, said there was no place for the titles in the 21st century.

“It’s a depressing example of how women are given low status and men, no matter how young or new in the job they are, are given high status,” she told the TES.

“Sir is a knight. There weren’t women knights, but ‘Miss’ is ridiculous: it doesn’t match ‘Sir’ at all. It’s just one of the names you can call an unmarried woman.”

Stop calling teachers 'Miss' or 'Sir', pupils are told - Telegraph
Last edited by Blackleaf; May 30th, 2014 at 05:41 AM..
 
Twila
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I think she may have gotten confused. The sentence: “I am not sure I can live that down - being beaten by a 19-year-old girl.” was probably not meant to be as derogatory as it is. He was beaten by a 19 yr old woman.

I believe he was attempting to be funny, but in this case he made it sound like being beaten by a female (girl) was a horrendous insult to his masculinity. I think the person who got upset should have been upset with the person who made the comment and not the word he used.
 
JLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by SLMView Post

Bitch, please! Lol

Wonder how they're going to refer to non-adults of the female persuasion now. Little women? Bah, that's sounds even worse, it sounds condescending.

Grand scheme of things, molehill into mountain, yet again.


Yeah, it's pretty well "much ado about nothing". By the same token if I was referred to as a boy, I don't think it would ruin my day.
 
Corduroy
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Quote: Originally Posted by TwilaView Post

I think she may have gotten confused. The sentence: “I am not sure I can live that down - being beaten by a 19-year-old girl.” was probably not meant to be as derogatory as it is. He was beaten by a 19 yr old woman.

I believe he was attempting to be funny, but in this case he made it sound like being beaten by a female (girl) was a horrendous insult to his masculinity. I think the person who got upset should have been upset with the person who made the comment and not the word he used.

Yeah, he's attempting to be funny. That's the worse part about it. That the shame of losing a fight to a woman is an unquestioned part of our culture, and isn't a riot that he's being self-deprecating about it?
 
damngrumpy
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This is just plain silly. What happens to the term and who really cares?
Are we going to take offense to the term boy or guys or what?
I find myself referring to my wife and daughter sometimes in a sentence
"The girls will pick up the mail on the way home" If that is sexist sorry
but I disagree.
If some guy was pounded to the mat by a 19 year old girl, you would think
she would be proud of her accomplishment. Its a term it was not meant to
e offensive it was a statement of fact. If we are going to get formal in Canada
it might me the age of majority in BC is 19 so she might be referred to as a
19 year old woman in America the age of majority is 21 so she might be called
a girl.
Does anyone else notice how ridiculous all this is?
We have become so caught up in terminology we overlook the fact the young
ladies accomplishment. Sometimes I wonder about people and if some really
need a life
 
Twila
#26
Quote: Originally Posted by damngrumpyView Post

This is just plain silly. What happens to the term and who really cares?
Are we going to take offense to the term boy or guys or what?
I find myself referring to my wife and daughter sometimes in a sentence
"The girls will pick up the mail on the way home" If that is sexist sorry
but I disagree.
If some guy was pounded to the mat by a 19 year old girl, you would think
she would be proud of her accomplishment. Its a term it was not meant to
e offensive it was a statement of fact. If we are going to get formal in Canada
it might me the age of majority in BC is 19 so she might be referred to as a
19 year old woman in America the age of majority is 21 so she might be called
a girl.
Does anyone else notice how ridiculous all this is?
We have become so caught up in terminology we overlook the fact the young
ladies accomplishment. Sometimes I wonder about people and if some really
need a life

First world problems, eh?
 
Tecumsehsbones
#27
Quote: Originally Posted by damngrumpyView Post

This is just plain silly. What happens to the term and who really cares?
Are we going to take offense to the term boy or guys or what?
I find myself referring to my wife and daughter sometimes in a sentence
"The girls will pick up the mail on the way home" If that is sexist sorry
but I disagree.
If some guy was pounded to the mat by a 19 year old girl, you would think
she would be proud of her accomplishment. Its a term it was not meant to
e offensive it was a statement of fact. If we are going to get formal in Canada
it might me the age of majority in BC is 19 so she might be referred to as a
19 year old woman in America the age of majority is 21 so she might be called
a girl.
Does anyone else notice how ridiculous all this is?
We have become so caught up in terminology we overlook the fact the young
ladies accomplishment. Sometimes I wonder about people and if some really
need a life

As the term is usually used, the age of majority in the U.S. is 18. At 18 a person is legally responsible for herself, can enter into contracts, vote, & c. The only things one can't do at 18 are purchase alcohol and rent a car.
 
JLM
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#28
Where there is confusion just remember the old adage "A rose by any other name is still a rose"!
 
eh1eh
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Quote:

He was beaten by a 19 yr old woman.

I'm going to stick with my genius here.

'Post pubescent human entity, non male.'
 
Sparrow
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#30
Frankly some people are just looking for nits to pick at, if someone called me a girl I would be delited. I have a few words I could use to discribe there people but if I used them I would be banned for life from this forum.
 
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