Senior Drivers......

DaSleeper

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May 27, 2007
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I well remember my father's driving before he died at 82....shoveling his driveway......yikes!!!
And it takes me 12 hrs to drive to Toronto while it takes my daughter only 10 hrs...but she stops only for gas while I take a few bathroom breaks..;-) I drink too much coffee good excuse wouldn't you say????
But I guess I haven't reached my Dad's point yet since she offered to let me try out her new car last year in Mississauga :lol:

I'm sure that the usual suspects will have a ball with this headline in Sudbury.....

Anonymous tip line upsets senior drivers - Sudbury - CBC News

.But just remember that I would sooner drive in Toronto than in Sudbury, and I usually took the bypass instead of straight through when on my way to Toronto with my fifth wheel trailer......Not my favorite town to drive in.
 

taxslave

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Nov 25, 2008
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If they did that here there would hardly be anyone left on the road. People come here to die, which is about the only thing they are regular at. I figured out why nobody ever gets hurt in MVAs in town. They don't go fast enough to pass a turtle.
 

Nuggler

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Feb 27, 2006
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I well remember my father's driving before he died at 82....shoveling his driveway......yikes!!!
And it takes me 12 hrs to drive to Toronto while it takes my daughter only 10 hrs...but she stops only for gas while I take a few bathroom breaks..;-) I drink too much coffee good excuse wouldn't you say????
But I guess I haven't reached my Dad's point yet since she offered to let me try out her new car last year in Mississauga :lol:

I'm sure that the usual suspects will have a ball with this headline in Sudbury.....

Anonymous tip line upsets senior drivers - Sudbury - CBC News

.But just remember that I would sooner drive in Toronto than in Sudbury, and I usually took the bypass instead of straight through when on my way to Toronto with my fifth wheel trailer......Not my favorite town to drive in.

Jeez DaS; it's just up the hill and turn left............least it was.:lol:
 

lone wolf

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Gee.... I wonder if they'll do the same for end-of-the-shift-hurry folk who only want to race to the end of a passing lane at the end of a passing lane.

Note to the guy who did it to me in Stinson: If you're going to be stupid, don't have personalized plates. I wasn't anonymous with my call....
 

damngrumpy

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You want to try driving in Kelowna, Now there is a treat I tell you. Yes there area lot of
seniors here me being one of them now, but they are not the biggest problem by any
means. Young women are the worst of drivers here. They have small and medium
sized cars and they think they own the road. I have a grand daughter she's 22 and even
she admits they are out of control. She does a lot of driving as part of her job. She
agrees with me. Young women from late teens to about thirty are worse than young me
or seniors and the next worst forty to fifty year old's they are not aggressive though just
dumb.
Here in the city they are going on a cleanup, changing lanes without signalling running
yellow lights, tailgating and more all being clamped down on and I approve. Am I
perfect no but then I am not stupid either. What I really notice is people coming out from
stop signs turning left in front of big trucks or buses and I wonder if they have a death
wish. Its nuts out there
 

Cliffy

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Nov 19, 2008
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Living in a small town like Nakusp, if you have to wait more than 5 cars before you can make a turn, constitutes a traffic jam. I drove through Kalowna last summer on my motorcycle and it scared the crap out of me. 3 lanes of wall to wall traffic for 5 miles, on a Sunday!
I wouldn't survive driving in any city.
 

DaSleeper

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May 27, 2007
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Well, that study confirms what most of us know instinctively....when I was younger I could have a couple of drinks and still drive safely.
Then I got cataracts and dropped the drinking and driving to zero, and quit driving at night.
I got the cataracts fixed, but still kept the drinking to zero when driving but last year on the two lane between Tottenham and Alliston, coming out of a curve, a one tonne black truck coming towards me is gradually crossing the center lane, coming straight towards me.
While I had more room to meet him on the left, he could have suddenly swerved back in his lane, so with only a split second, I swerved on my side of the road as I was meeting him, enough to just miss him without going too close to the ditch.

A quick look in the rearview mirror and he just slowly went back to his side of the road. He was probably texting and never even saw me.

While my wife was freaked out...the whole incident renewed my own confidence and now, at my age, I allow myself one beer if Im driving.

I knew I had posted this before............
 

Sal

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I well remember my father's driving before he died at 82....shoveling his driveway......yikes!!!
And it takes me 12 hrs to drive to Toronto while it takes my daughter only 10 hrs...but she stops only for gas while I take a few bathroom breaks..;-) I drink too much coffee good excuse wouldn't you say????
But I guess I haven't reached my Dad's point yet since she offered to let me try out her new car last year in Mississauga :lol:

I'm sure that the usual suspects will have a ball with this headline in Sudbury.....

Anonymous tip line upsets senior drivers - Sudbury - CBC News

.But just remember that I would sooner drive in Toronto than in Sudbury, and I usually took the bypass instead of straight through when on my way to Toronto with my fifth wheel trailer......Not my favorite town to drive in.
I am totally conflicted on this. In many cases, older drives have experience on their side, follow rules of the road, and do just fine. While the younger generation speed like crazy, think they can handle anything, take big risks but can physically respond faster.

If older drivers are actually a hazard, they need to lose their license. I get that they don't want to give up their independence, but if their independence threathens another's life...adios...kiss your license buh-bye.

On the other hand, where is the youth tip line? Does it exist? I know they can irritate me too. The little old guy with the hat just kind of peddling along in the lane, but reality is, I get to the light and look over, "well, there's Fred" hat and all, right at the light. So screw this idea.

As for drinking and driving, not for me. Not even one glass. My car used to be my livelihood. If I had lost my license, I would have lost my job. It taught me a valuable lesson. If it cuts one second off of your reaction time, that could be someone's life. No glass of wine on earth, is worth living with that, even if they said I was innocent.
 

wulfie68

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Bad driving habits aren't age restrictive: every age group has bad drivers, and most of them think they are good drivers. I do think people want to underestimate the hazards seniors create on the road, and a large part of this is political: youths don't have the powerful lobby groups that seniors do.
 

talloola

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I am a senior driver.

I drive just as well now as I always have, I am a good driver, have been told as much throughout my life,
BUT, what I have now, much better than ever before is PATIENCE, and also pity for all of the younger
drivers who are impatient.
I drive now very content, and nothing much ever bothers me.

I don't really know what is meant by senior driver, a person is considered a senior at 60/65, but can
drive many more years, if able.

I agree that many young to older women are poor driver, especially those who are afraid on the road,
afraid to enter an intersection for fear that everyone waiting to go through will suddently dart out
and smash into her, I have had to wave my arm, (politely) to encourage some women to move through,
as it is long past their turn.
Also drivers who drive so slow that they hold up traffic for a long period of time, and don't seem to
be aware that there is any other drivers on the road, except them.
Also, people who speed 'everywhere', without any consideration for walkers,
cyclists, handicapped people, children who might make a mistake, etc, pets, etc.

It is not senior drivers that are a concern on the road, it is all drivers who really cannot relax,
or have to speed, or are agressive, drinking, stoned, have a medical problem,and they could be any age.
 

SLM

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I think the experience an older driver has is their strength and to their benefit behind the wheel. It can, possibly, compensate for at least small amounts of diminished reflexes and responses that we all have when we get older. The flip side of the coin though is that we've all probably known someone who has had diminished capabilities (not necessarily capacity) when they get older and we've also probably known a few that just simply refuse to see it. Many of us have to redefine what independent means as we get older, and that can be a tough thing to do for some people. But the crux of it is, if someone is in that position in their lives and they continue driving, they can not only be a risk to themselves but to others as well.

I don't necessarily think a 'rat Grandma out' dedicated phone line is necessarily the way to go though. I do think retesting at an age where age itself can become a factor in safety is necessary. If tests are passed, great, drive to your hearts content.
 

taxslave

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Older drivers is one thing but here in the raisin warehouse we have some that have to get out at every power pole to check if they will make it past. What's worse is that many of them have lost their license and now have scooters that they drive on sidewalks, street, flower gardens all without looking for other traffic, metal or human. Traffic lights are beyond their sight range so are ignored.
 

relic

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I see a lot of "seniors"that should not be driving.Iwatched one old goomer labouriously climb out of his Crown Vic,wit two canes,hobble arround to get his walker out of the trunk.In my opinion he,by the look of him,was not "sharp" enough to be driving.I'm only 62 and I'm first to admid I'm not as sharp as I was,say ,when I used to drive truck in Ottawa.They always picked me for long or hot shot runs because I could get there WAAyy befor any of the other drivers,now i avoid driving in traffic if I can.
BUT there are a lot of other,much younger drivers that are worse because. A,they think they can drive,B, they put too much faith in the technology now in new cars. The rest are just stupid.
 

Spade

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Long gone is the time when the horse continued safely down the road when the rider dozed off or had night vision less than nil.
 

tay

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Senior drivers don't need mandatory medical exams






Regulations that require drivers who are 80 years old or older to undergo a medical fitness exam should be scrapped because they are discriminatory, says a seniors advocacy group.


Seniors who turn 80 will receive a notice to take a medical exam to ensure they are fit to drive.


They must take the test again every two years, and each test could cost between $75 and $400, said Bruce Bird, chairman of the North Fraser chapter of the Canadian Association of Retired Persons.


"It's ageism," said Bird, in an interview with Daybreak South. "There's no evidence that we can find that there's a need for it."


Bird says he believes most seniors are good drivers, and those who do lose their licence face losing their independence and becoming housebound.


He cites statistics from the U.S.-based Insurance Institute for Highway Safety, which recently found that the rate of decline in traffic accidents is greater for seniors than for middle-aged drivers.


However, according to RoadSafetyBC, drivers aged 80 and older are responsible for almost 70 per cent of the crashes in which they are involved.


It says drivers aged 80 and older are also much more likely to die in those crashes.


But a Transport Canada report in 2011 says the greater risk of a fatality is partially due to the fact that seniors are more fragile, and so are more likely to be killed or seriously injured.


"As seniors age, they are more likely to develop physical and cognitive infirmities, although not all seniors have conditions which affect the safety of their driving," said the report.


"Therefore, age should not be used as the basis for determining whether a driver can continue to drive, but rather such a decision should be based on the driver’s physical and cognitive fitness to drive safely."


Bird and his group recently submitted a proposal to the Justice Ministry, but the Superintendent of Motor Vehicles says the province will not change its policy.


"The requirement for drivers to have their medical fitness assessed at age 80 is consistent with most other Canadian jurisdictions and many international jurisdictions," said Sam Macleod in a written statement.


"Further, the BC Human Rights Tribunal has reviewed the policy of assessing all drivers at age 80, and found it to be consistent with our road safety mandate."


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Senior drivers don't need mandatory medical exams says advocacy group - British Columbia - CBC News