Japan - US- West headed for a military confrontation - dispute in the South China Sea

Japan - US- West headed for a military confrontation - dispute in the South China Sea and Spratly Islands?

Confrontation in the South China Sea | World Affairs Journal

Spratly Islands - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Spratly Islands dispute - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Japan accuses Chinese navy vessels of using weapons radar on ship | World | News | National Post

Sansha City Raises Threat of Conflict in South China Sea | TIME.com

Lost at Sea - By James Kraska | Foreign Policy

Few modern treaties have generated more domestic controversy for less reason than the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea. By codifying generous rights and freedoms of navigation throughout the world's oceans, the treaty promotes global trade, economic prosperity, and naval mobility. It is a commonsense guide to 71 percent of the Earth's surface, and for that reason it has been accepted by 161 nations, including Russia, China, France, and the United Kingdom. But not the United States

'Indisputable': China stakes claim to South China Sea

China Makes New Claims Over Territorial Waters

It contains oil and gas fields; some Chinese analysts have dubbed it "Asia's Persian Gulf" for its potential oil wealth and its fractiousness. It is particularly inflammatory because China's government is repudiating its non-binding 2002 agreement with its South-East Asian neighbours to solve territorial disputes through peaceful negotiation.
Why is China doing this? Because it needs to, according to one of its top naval officials. Rear-Admiral Zhang Huachen, deputy commander of the East Sea Fleet, told The Straits Times: "With the expansion of the country's economic interests, the navy wants to better protect the country's transportation routes and the safety of our major sea lanes."

Walter Russell Mead, of the Council on Foreign Relations, is unconvinced: "It's sterile in terms of China's trade ambitions; what commerce does it protect? China needs the flow of energy and raw materials from all over the world."

Second, it has waged more aggressive patrols and naval exercises to give operational meaning to the new doctrine. In April, for instance, a 10-ship fleet sailed beyond the First Island Chain, an exercise of unprecedented scale for China. Third, it continues apace to build capability, including an underground submarine base on Hainan Island, and an aircraft carrier battle group, due to be deployed in the next few years.

With its economy thriving and its capabilities growing, Beijing is no longer biding its time but acting to assert itself.
Global Politician - China's Manifest Destiny: Immigration and Land Claims Against Russia
China's Immediate Needs
The temptation to seize the Russian Far East and Siberia may be too much for China to resist, since the region would offer the country an opportunity to achieve increased energy autonomy and replace its own depleted natural resources. Many coal mines in China have become exhausted with further exploration an expensive and time consuming alternative. China also imports more oil than it produces -- a significant barrier for a country of its size with designs for regional dominance and global influence.

Taken collectively, these developments have forced China to identify and secure reliable sources of energy and raw materials globally [i.e., Africa, South America and North America] and within its Asian periphery.

Leadership: This Indian Land Is Chinese Land
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2...t_11419189.htm
BEIJING - Chinese protesters vented anger against Japan Saturday when they took to the streets to assert China's claim to sovereignty over the Diaoyu Islands.

China builds lighthouse to back East China Sea claim | Reuters
Global Politician - China's Manifest Destiny: Immigration and Land Claims Against Russia
History of Mistrust and Suspicion

In the 19th century, China reluctantly ceded control of the Far East and Siberia to Russia. During the past 50 years, however, Chinese territorial claims to the area have steadily increased. Chinese communist founder Mao Zedong and leader Deng Xiaoping both publicly asserted that the Russian cities of Vladivostok and Khabarovsk were Chinese. Some Chinese historians have claimed that the current China-Russia boarders are unfair and that Russia "stole" the Far East by force.

The Chinese view this region [Siberia] historically as their territory, said Larisa Zabroskaya, an Asia expert. Moreover, Russia's Far East population increasingly identifies itself with the east - looking to South Korea, Japan and China for guidance on matters of governance and culture. As a result, the region has become less connected to Moscow and the ideals of "Euro Asia."

http://www.international-relations.c...beria-2008.pdf

China's naval coming-of-age - The Globe and Mail

For now, the U.S. still rules the Pacific. But while China's own surface fleet may not be able to challenge that for several years, if not decades, it has already developed a weapon that could at least force the carrier fleet to give the country's coast a wider berth: advanced surface-to-sea missiles, dubbed “carrier-busters” because of their supposed ability to sink the giant ships. And after years of focusing on defending its coast and preparing for a potential war over Taiwan, China's navy now talks of “far-sea defence.”

Pissing match between two who want control over resources. Where've I heard that theme before?

China cant take on the world. They know that, and this is just all smoke. They will settle this behind closed doors at the UN or something.

Which time and which one? Having NG is what keeps Palestine from freedom.

A number of countries have made claims
Territorial claims in the Spratly and Paracel Islands
Spratly Islands Dispute

The US which has not signed the below mentioned treaty.

Lost at Sea - By James Kraska | Foreign Policy

Few modern treaties have generated more domestic controversy for less reason than the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea. By codifying generous rights and freedoms of navigation throughout the world's oceans, the treaty promotes global trade, economic prosperity, and naval mobility. It is a commonsense guide to 71 percent of the Earth's surface, and for that reason it has been accepted by 161 nations, including Russia, China, France, and the United Kingdom. But not the United States

You want an answer containing specifics after a general observation? lol
lemme look through the list.

UK vs. Argentina.
Canada vs. Norway, Russia, Denmark, etc.
etc. etc. etc.
So?

So it makes the long list.

As I said, and it was a rhetorical comment, "where've I heard that before?"
IOW, there's nothing new under the sun.

We should invade Denmark. I would really like a Danish with my coffee in the morning.
PS
Millions or more dead over uninhabited islands makes the imperialist mindset quivver with anticipation.

Have you read about China's way of dealing with the negotiations thru SEATO? Or how they whip up a mob(s) against Japanese interests in China.
Playing the nationalistic card can be and is usually dangerous as it can easily get out of control.

Well, Japan's history in China wasn't pretty...
We can certainly say that these islands are not American.

Yeah. Japan is sort of a US protectorate, though. It's one way for the US to get its mitts on some profit from resources.

True and the Chinese have been strong arming countries with claims. Both countries now have nationalistic Govts and things can easily spin out of control. Mass demonstration, and I am referring to China, some Japaneses citizens killed. And then what do we have.
The US has a self defense treaty with Japan if attacked

Are you aware of why the Chinese have some many missiles across from Taiwan?

I wonder if they will be hiroshimaed and nagasakied again?

Sure, Taiwan is part of China.

Not the right answer

Funny how in some cases we are right there demanding what ever, until something like
this. We have been building China up for over a decade now, well even longer than ten
years. We did this with Japan just before the last great war, and Germany was allowed
to build to alarming levels despite restrictions placed on it after the first great war.
We call them disputes and banter like nothing is wrong until we build our enemies into a
fighting machine. All of a sudden its time to draw a line in the sand.
I am choked that we buy or sell anything that has anything to do with China because its
only a matter of time before we will be in conflict with them and we built them up to do it.
For a little more profit they can kill my grand kids. That is what happened the last time
and its coming again.
Yup its time to rebuild our industrial base at home and in the United States because we
are going to need it.

My friend, Goober. Not only is it the correct answer; it is the only answer.

Nope - Denial of passage is the strategy, by China

China is flexing the muscle we gave them. Time for an embargo, what would Walmart
do then/

...or in this case, a Dragon.

That poster describes EAO perfectly.

Not the only answer.
Third Taiwan Strait Crisis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

We bought China. Get into that frame of mind and it all makes sense.

Can I have your honest opinion? What do you figure the true reasoning is for claiming the island?

Which Island- and I will try but it may take some time- On vacation.

But tell me why the Chinese are bullying their way into ownership of the South China Sea. Ignoring attempts at negotiations. Look at their claims on the Spratly's and see how close they come to other countries.

And yes you are correct about owning. Owe a million and the banks own you Owe trillions and you own them. The Chinese have increased their long term - multi year - holding of US Treasuries at low rates in the past few years.
Short term debt held by China has been lowered.

Until recently they haven't had the physical ability to stand behind their claims or perhaps Japan is upto to their ying yangs in debt with China and have defaulted and now China wants payment in kind rather than cash.

True they are flexing - True they are intimidating other countries on the Spratly dispute - changing from a joint discussion with all involved to a one on one.

The Chines Military strategy is one of denial- where the costs become to high for the US. Main reason for all the missiles between China and Taiwan. After the 7th Fleet sailed thru in 95-96 the Chinese lost immense face.
And face is important.

Loosing the Nationalistic mobs can bite the hand that led them.
BBC News - Q&A: China-Japan islands row

Emerging maritime rivalry in The South China Sea: Territorial disputes, sea-lane security, and the pursuit of power

China Takes Aim at U.S. Naval Might - WSJ.com

China

WE? So you are one of the banker gang and shipped your towns textile manufacturies to mainland China twenty-five years ago and only now do you realize the mistake. Why should we trust you to rebuild Canadas manufacturing capacity? And what would you draw a line in the sand with, J35s, nuclear subs, an actual stick? Time for a nap grampy, we'll both be dust before that even begins to happen, first our lands suffer poverty disease war and decade after decade of ignorance. That's the global economy. Look it up.

Cash is a thing of the past as we speak. You got to have raw materials even if someone else thinks they own them. The Pacific would belong to China if Japan had an accident. Pakistan yesterday gave China that deep water port, they want super clean seaways homeward bound.

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