Muslim paedophile who groomed victim on FB walks...


Locutus
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Hey, he didn't know, ok.

Muslim abuser who 'didn't know' that sex with a girl of 13 was illegal is spared jail

  • Adil Rashid admitted travelling to Nottingham and having sex with the girl
  • He met the 13-year-old on Facebook and they communicated by texts and phone for two months before they met
  • He was educated in a madrassa and 'had little experience of women'
  • Said he had been taught 'women are no more worthy than a lollipop that has been dropped on the ground'
  • Added he was reluctant to have sex but that he was 'tempted by [the girl]'




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Paedophile who groomed victim on Facebook claimed his Muslim upbringing meant 'he didn't know it was illegal to have sex with 13-year-old girl' | Mail Online
 
SLM
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#2
What the hell happened to 'ignorance of the law is no excuse"???? 13 years old, FFS!
 
Serryah
#3
Absolute BS, all of it.

And no matter that the girl "wanted it" or "Seduced him", she was thir-freakin-teen! It says in the article right off he was accused of Rape.

Rape is rape and this is a clear-cut case, to me, of a young man taking advantage of a child and pleading ignorance and it getting accepted, despite the fact they met on the internet. If you know the internet, you're not THAT naive.

No, this... thing... deserves jail, end of story.
 
petros
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Quote: Originally Posted by SLMView Post

What the hell happened to 'ignorance of the law is no excuse"???? 13 years old, FFS!

13 is adulthood to some Religious types.
 
SLM
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#5
Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

13 is adulthood to some Religious types.

Against the law is against the law for all types.
 
petros
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Quote: Originally Posted by SLMView Post

Against the law is against the law for all types.

Oddly enough have you ever looked into Canadian marriage laws? You can marry them young, but you just can't date first.

How the f*ck does that work?
 
SLM
#7
Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

Oddly enough have you ever looked into Canadian marriage laws? You can marry them young, but you just can't date first.

How the f*ck does that work?

Don't know. Bass ackwards antiquated laws on the books? But I think you need parental signed permission to marry under a certain age (not sure what the age is though) and marriage is a legal contract. Dating is just, well, dating.
 
petros
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Quote: Originally Posted by SLMView Post

Don't know. Bass ackwards antiquated laws on the books? But I think you need parental signed permission to marry under a certain age (not sure what the age is though) and marriage is a legal contract. Dating is just, well, dating.

There is no age limit on marriage.
 
CDNBear
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#9
But you do need the signature of a parent or guardian, for a legal marriage if you're under 18.
 
SLM
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#10
Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBearView Post

But you do need the signature of a parent or guardian, for a legal marriage if you're under 18.

It's provincial as well, so some differences province to province. Most of what I've seen after a small google search seems to indicate most provinces allow marriage between the ages of 16 and 18 with parental consent with some allowances for under the age of sixteen. (In BC for example, it seems you'd need the consent of the court). So it's not like parents can sign to marry off their 13 year old legally.
 
CDNBear
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#11
Quote: Originally Posted by SLMView Post

It's provincial as well, so some differences province to province. Most of what I've seen after a small google search seems to indicate most provinces allow marriage between the ages of 16 and 18 with parental consent with some allowances for under the age of sixteen. (In BC for example, it seems you'd need the consent of the court). So it's not like parents can sign to marry off their 13 year old legally.

That's all made moot by the fact that if I were a lawyer in the UK, I'd be looking up a litany of recent statutory rape convictions and visiting the convicted.
 
SLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBearView Post

That's all made moot by the fact that if I were a lawyer in the UK, I'd be looking up a litany of recent statutory rape convictions and visiting the convicted.

Actually I'd recommend you explain that to the judge first.
 
CDNBear
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Quote: Originally Posted by SLMView Post

Actually I'd recommend you explain that to the judge first.

Oh I'm sure he'll get the gist when the media climbs up his ***...

I'm genuinely curious what the difference is between a man incarcerated for statutory rape because he believed the girls was over the age of 18, and a man found guilty of statutory rape but given a suspended sentence because he was ignorant of the law.
 
captain morgan
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#14
I'm just a little curious why the UK media hasn't gotten their sh*t in a twist as a result of the school 'teaching' the students that females are worth less than a candy that has fallen into the dirt.
 
CDNBear
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#15
Quote: Originally Posted by captain morganView Post

I'm just a little curious why the UK media hasn't gotten their sh*t in a twist as a result of the school 'teaching' the students that females are worth less than a candy that has fallen into the dirt.

Because contrary to the opinion of a few of the Usual Suspects, British media is worthless.

When I mentioned media,I was thinking of foreign media embarrassing the UK.
 
SLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBearView Post

Oh I'm sure he'll get the gist when the media climbs up his ***...

Is it just my perception or do many of the most ridiculous pronouncement from the bench on any sexual crime seem to come from the U.K.? Maybe it's just the sensationalism of their media and how things get reported, maybe it's just as bad over here, but that seems to jump out at me for some reason.

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I'm genuinely curious what the difference is between a man incarcerated for statutory rape because he believed the girls was over the age of 18, and a man found guilty of statutory rape but given a suspended sentence because he was ignorant of the law.

There shouldn't be any difference except, perhaps, when it comes to both ages involved. Definitely 13 years of age (barely pubescent) falls well below what I would categorize as statutory rape. I think he should have been charged with sexual assault of a minor. That might have delivered the right message to all those isolated males who are taught that females are worth less than a lollipop dropped on the ground.
 
captain morgan
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#17
Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBearView Post

Because contrary to the opinion of a few of the Usual Suspects, British media is worthless.

When I mentioned media,I was thinking of foreign media embarrassing the UK.

Not to overshadow the underlying issue, but I find absolutely remarkable that the media has even written a snippet regarding this group actively teaching such despicable ideals about women.... How many pedi-freaks are going to use this precedent to rush out and defile young women in that community and claim that they someone in their community basically said it was OK?

As much as I hate this expression: If these folks are not supportive of the expectations of British culture, then relocate to a jurisdiction that reflects your values.
 
SLM
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#18
Quote: Originally Posted by captain morganView Post

Not to overshadow the underlying issue, but I find absolutely remarkable that the media has even written a snippet regarding this group actively teaching such despicable ideals about women.... How many pedi-freaks are going to use this precedent to rush out and defile young women in that community and claim that they someone in their community basically said it was OK?

As much as I hate this expression: If these folks are not supportive of the expectations of British culture, then relocate to a jurisdiction that reflects your values.

Forget about British culture, how about British law?
 
CDNBear
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#19
Quote: Originally Posted by SLMView Post

Is it just my perception or do many of the most ridiculous pronouncement from the bench on any sexual crime seem to come from the U.K.? Maybe it's just the sensationalism of their media and how things get reported, maybe it's just as bad over here, but that seems to jump out at me for some reason.

Sex sells in the UK.

Substance is boring.

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There shouldn't be any difference except, perhaps, when it comes to both ages involved. Definitely 13 years of age (barely pubescent) falls well below what I would categorize as statutory rape. I think he should have been charged with sexual assault of a minor.

The article says "rape", but I highly suspect it was statutory rape.

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That might have delivered the right message to all those isolated males who are taught that females are worth less than a lollipop dropped on the ground.

I've known for years that the UK was circling the bowl.

The consierge at the hotel in Jacksons Point is an ex London traffic officer. She left the force and moved to Canada after being charged with misconduct, based on racism, for ticketing the Muslim operator of a motor vehicle for having unbelted children in the vehicle, because there weren't enough seat belts.

She didn't wait for the verdict at her hearing. She felt that the charge should have been laughed out of the office when it was made.

Pay close attention to the UK.

It's our future.
 
captain morgan
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#20
Quote: Originally Posted by SLMView Post

Forget about British culture, how about British law?


How about this:


 
SLM
#21
Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBearView Post

Sex sells in the UK.

Substance is boring.

That's true everywhere of course but the media in the UK invented the term "tabloid journalism".

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The article says "rape", but I highly suspect it was statutory rape.

I assumed the same thing. The charge was wrong in the first place, imo.

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I've known for years that the UK was circling the bowl.

The consierge at the hotel in Jacksons Point is an ex London traffic officer. She left the force and moved to Canada after being charged with misconduct, based on racism, for ticketing the Muslim operator of a motor vehicle for having unbelted children in the vehicle, because there weren't enough seat belts.

She didn't wait for the verdict at her hearing. She felt that the charge should have been laughed out of the office when it was made.

Pay close attention to the UK.

It's our future.

We can always retreat to the arctic.

I'll need a warmer coat.
 
earth_as_one
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#22
I suspect that this 18 year old did not avoid jail time because he was ignorant of the law or because he was Muslim.. He must have avoided jail time because of the circumstances of this case. The Daily Mail must have selectively omitted a few facts, because the judge's decision doesn't make sense if the Daily Mail's report was complete and accurate.

BTW, sex with a 13 year old is legal, with another 13 year old or with an older person who is a 13 year old's intellectual peer.

If an 18 year old had the mental capacity of a 13 year old, then they might not be charged with statutory rape of a 13 year old at the judge's discretion. But the onus would be on the defense to prove mental incompetence to the point where he could be considered the 13 year old girl's intellectual peer. But the Daily Mail report doesn't satisfactorily explain how the judge may have come to that conclusion.

If a 13 year old had the intellectual capacity of an 18 year old, played a leadership role in initiating sex with a simple minded, sexually naive 18 year old, then the 18 year old might not be charged with statutory rape at the judge's discretion. But the onus would be on the defense to prove the 13 year old has the competence of an 18 year old, that the 13 year old played a leadership role in the relationship and that the 18 year old was the 13 year old girl's intellectual peer. But the Daily Mail report doesn't satisfactorily explain how the judge may have come to that conclusion either.

While religion may have been a factor which contributed to this 18 year old's sexual immaturity and his attitude towards females, its not an excuse or even relevant to why this 18 year old had sex with a 13 year old. The main point of focusing on religion in the article seems to be to reinforce negative stereotypes of Muslims, promote fear and hatred against Muslims. I find it highly unlikely that any judge would accept ignorance of the law or religion as an excuse for an 18 year old's actions.

I suspect the referenced news article is incomplete and that the Daily Mail has selectively omitted facts that led to the judge's decision. I suspect the Daily Mail's reporting on this story is slanted towards promoting negative stereotypes of Muslims, rather than understand the reasons for the judge's apparently illogical decision.

Then again the judge could be incompetent or crazy...

Which is more likely? The Daily Mail is not reporting all the details of this case or the Judge is pro-Muslim and pro-statutory rape?
 
CDNBear
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#23
Bring on the Muslim apologists...

Quote: Originally Posted by earth_as_oneView Post

I suspect that this 18 year old did not avoid jail time because he was ignorant of the law or because he was Muslim.. He must have avoided jail time because of the circumstances of this case. The Daily Mail must have selectively omitted a few facts, because the judge's decision doesn't make sense if the Daily Mail's report was complete and accurate.

It was pretty detailed.

Quote:

BTW, sex with a 13 year old is legal, with another 13 year old or with an older person who is a 13 year old's intellectual peer.

If an 18 year old had the mental capacity of a 13 year old, then they might not be charged with statutory rape of a 13 year old at the judge's discretion. But the onus would be on the defense to prove mental incompetence to the point where he could be considered the 13 year old girl's intellectual peer. But the Daily Mail report doesn't satisfactorily explain how the judge may have come to that conclusion.

If a 13 year old had the intellectual capacity of an 18 year old, played a leadership role in initiating sex with a simple minded, sexually naive 18 year old, then the 18 year old might not be charged with statutory rape at the judge's discretion. But the onus would be on the defense to prove the 13 year old has the competence of an 18 year old, that the 13 year old played a leadership role in the relationship and that the 18 year old was the 13 year old girl's intellectual peer.

He isn't her peer by mental defect.

He is sexually naive because of abhorrent Muslim teachings.

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But the Daily Mail report doesn't satisfactorily explain how the judge may have come to that conclusion either.

Actually, he does.

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While religion may have been a factor which contributed to this 18 year old's sexual immaturity and his attitude towards females, its not an excuse or even relevant to why this 18 year old had sex with a 13 year old.

If it's a factor, it's relevant, lol.

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The main point of focusing on religion in the article seems to be to reinforce negative stereotypes of Muslims, promote fear and hatred against Muslims.

You say that any time a Muslims does something stupid.

It's getting old and tired.

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I find it highly unlikely that any judge would accept ignorance of the law or religion as an excuse for an 18 year old's actions.

I suspect the referenced news article is incomplete and that the Daily Mail has selectively omitted facts that led to the judge's decision.

Actually the Judges reasons are cited in multiple articles, including the one in the OP.

Only apologist would miss it.

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I suspect the Daily Mail's reporting on this story is slanted towards promoting negative stereotypes of Muslims, rather than understand the reasons for the judge's apparently illogical decision.

Of course, lol.

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Then again the judge could be incompetent or crazy...

I'm leaning to incompetent, but can understand his ruling.

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Which is more likely? The Daily Mail is not reporting all the details of this case or the Judge is pro-Muslim and pro-statutory rape?

It's more likely your blinders are working well.
 
captain morgan
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Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBearView Post


He is sexually naive because of abhorrent Muslim teachings.


I question that logic... According to the article, he emerged from the bathroom sporting a rubber and a smile... Clearly he was not entirely naive about the process to take this step in advance
 
CDNBear
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Quote: Originally Posted by captain morganView Post

I question that logic... According to the article, he emerged from the bathroom sporting a rubber and a smile... Clearly he was not entirely naive about the process to take this step in advance

Hmmm, interesting point.
 
SLM
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#26
Quote: Originally Posted by earth_as_oneView Post

The main point of focusing on religion in the article seems to be to reinforce negative stereotypes of Muslims, promote fear and hatred against Muslims.

Then perhaps the he shouldn't have used it as his defense.
 
Machjo
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#27
Quote: Originally Posted by LocutusView Post

Hey, he didn't know, ok.

Muslim abuser who 'didn't know' that sex with a girl of 13 was illegal is spared jail

  • Adil Rashid admitted travelling to Nottingham and having sex with the girl
  • He met the 13-year-old on Facebook and they communicated by texts and phone for two months before they met
  • He was educated in a madrassa and 'had little experience of women'
  • Said he had been taught 'women are no more worthy than a lollipop that has been dropped on the ground'
  • Added he was reluctant to have sex but that he was 'tempted by [the girl]'



more



Paedophile who groomed victim on Facebook claimed his Muslim upbringing meant 'he didn't know it was illegal to have sex with 13-year-old girl' | Mail Online

The Qur'an teaches against sex outside of marriage. What? They don't have time to read the Qur'an at the madrassa?
 
CDNBear
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#28
Quote: Originally Posted by SLMView Post

Then perhaps the he shouldn't have used it as his defense.

That kind of thing is always lost on the apologists.
 
captain morgan
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#29
Quote: Originally Posted by MachjoView Post

The Qur'an teaches against sex outside of marriage. What? They don't have time to read the Qur'an at the madrassa?

He skipped that class.... Maybe he was busy making hotel reservations at the time
 
SLM
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#30
Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBearView Post

That kind of thing is always lost on the apologists.

I actually do not give a damn what his culture or religious affiliation is. Ignorance of the law is no excuse. Period.
 

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