Smoking ban rears its ugly head again!

Quote: Originally Posted by Sal

curious...do you smoke?

Quote: Originally Posted by Ron in Regina

I smoke, & I'm in favour of an outright ban on smoking, or everyone just shutting
the Hell up already. One or the other....but no more of this other social engineering
horse plop.

Quote: Originally Posted by Sal

they are beginning to make apartment buildings smoke free here in my area... I hope they make my condo building smoke free... some people complain about the smell of weed on one of the floors but they can't smell the tobacco smoke...that makes me laugh...I used to smoke one to two packs a day

Quote: Originally Posted by SLM

I hear ya!



See now how can they do that? It is, still, a legal product. Just like alcohol. Could they make the condo a dry zone? Somehow I don't think they'd get away with that.

And yes I do smoke, weaning myself down and hopefully someday off them completely, but that's honestly not the reason it seems so bizarre to me. Tobacco is the most hypocritical product for the government. The tax the hell out of it so of course they don't want to stop selling the stuff but then they legislate the hell out of it too. Now I can understand public places, but when it comes to legislating what people can and cannot do in their own homes with a legal product mind you, that smells far worse to me than lingering smoke.

Quote: Originally Posted by DaSleeper

And they say that people who believed that the government is trying to control every aspect of your life should wear tinfoil hats???

Quote: Originally Posted by JLM

Well, I'm not sure the Gov't. is being hypocritical. Of course the best solution would be for everyone to quit smoking, whatever the chance is of that ever happening. Excessive smoking certainly does a lot of damage to health which the Gov't. has to foot the bill for, so I'm in favour of taxing it, as long as the money goes for treating sickness caused by it and for programs to help reduce smoking.

Quote: Originally Posted by SLM

See now how can they do that? It is, still, a legal product.

Just like alcohol. Could they make the condo a dry zone? Somehow I don't think they'd get away with that.

Now I can understand public places, but when it comes to legislating what people can and cannot do in their own homes with a legal product mind you, that smells far worse to me than lingering smoke.

Quote: Originally Posted by Sal

It is still a legal product. They haven't done any condo buildings here to my knowledge. There was a court case here in Kitchener where a woman sued her neighbour because he would not stop smoking and her claim was smoke allergy and that his smoking was endangering her health. I have tried to find it on line but a quick search turned up nothing.

They are now advertising some apartments as smoke free.

No but then the alcohol in my glass does not send it's fumes into my neighbour's home. The fifth floor in this building smells of smoke. Would I buy on that floor, nope.

While I have sympathy for the rights of smokers I do not think that my condo value should hinge on someone else's addiction. My argument for my condo is when I had a smoker living below me for a very short length of time, when he smoked in his bedroom, the smoke came right into my office. I could smell it.

All the venting systems are connected. I don't want second hand smoke in my condo. Most people here go downstairs to the front door. Yes is smells sometimes when i walk out the door, but that I can live with. Still kind of like a brief whiff of it actually.

Quote: Originally Posted by DaSleeper

And they say that people who believed that the government is trying to control every aspect of your life should wear tinfoil hats???

Quote: Originally Posted by SLM

I'd be interested in it if you could find it. With rentals that would strike me as discriminatory if they denied based on whether someone was a smoker. I mean, what would happen if a current tenant took up smoking, evict them?

Yeah fair enough, I can understand why people would want their neighbours not to be smokers. If your home is your home though, there should be no difference in what you're allowed to legally do in your home between a detached residence and an attached one.
I'd say the ventilation system in your building must be very poor if the entire floor smells of smoke.

Quote: Originally Posted by SLM

I'd be interested in it if you could find it. With rentals that would strike me as discriminatory if they denied based on whether someone was a smoker. I mean, what would happen if a current tenant took up smoking, evict them?

Yeah fair enough, I can understand why people would want their neighbours not to be smokers. If your home is your home though, there should be no difference in what you're allowed to legally do in your home between a detached residence and an attached one.

I'd say the ventilation system in your building must be very poor if the entire floor smells of smoke.

Quote: Originally Posted by taxslave

Why not. They can legally ban pets .Also having extra people in your unit for an extended period.

Quote: Originally Posted by Ron in Regina

Drinking makes you drunk...& thus the reason it's banned in public places like
a park, etc...& smoking makes you....???....well, not drunk.

Quote: Originally Posted by Ron in Regina

I smoke, & I'm in favour of an outright ban on smoking, or everyone just shutting
the Hell up already. One or the other....but no more of this other social engineering
horse plop.

Quote: Originally Posted by JLM

I just heard on C.B.C. news that the "do good meddlers" are at it again in trying to push a smoking ban on all patios and parks. Just seems some people can't mind their own frigging business. I think every park should have a bench with ashtrays located in a remote area of the park where there isn't too much traffic. These people could do more good by removing 10 cars. Do they really think they are going to get people to quit smoking by pissing people off? If they want to do some real good get rid of muggers, rapists, dope pushers and child molesters that lurk in parks and leave law abiding citizens alone. As for the patios I think smoking should be allowed at one end (the downwind end if applicable) Time to start using common sense.
Smoking bylaw should have full patio ban - Health - CBC News

Quote: Originally Posted by #juan

One won't hurt.....

I had stopped smking for about a year and somebody told me that that year was all I needed
and that the habit was as good as broken. I tried one and within two days I was back to a
pack a day.....stupid bastird.....

I quit for good after that.....hardest thing I ever done...Took me three months to get back to
a form of sanity.