Michael Coren interview: Why he believes Christianity is the most abused faith on Ear

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Michael Coren interview: Why he believes Christianity is the most abused faith on Earth

Michael Coren is growing increasingly impatient. He sees the world around him becoming dangerously intolerant of Christianity. In the just-released Heresy: The Lies They Spread About Christianity, his 14th book, he writes that Christianity has become the most abused faith on Earth. “I believe the evidence is overwhelming … that Christianity is the main, central, most common, and most thoroughly and purposefully marginalized, obscured, and publicly and privately mis-represented belief system in the final decades of the twentieth century and the opening years of the twenty-first century.” He rails that the same intellectual class that so quickly condemns anything Christian will do cartwheels to explain away Islamic terrorism. National Post religion reporter Charles Lewis spoke to Mr. Coren in his Toronto home this week about his latest book — the second in a year in which the broadcaster does battle with Christianity’s enemies — and the place of Christians in what he sees as a hostile world.

Q: You start off in Heresy with the statement that Christianity has become the “most thoroughly and purposely marginalized belief system in the world.” Certainly Christians are under physical threat in much of the Middle East and Africa. But is that really the case here?
A: There’s a radical difference in the life of a Christian in the Islamic world and the life of a Christian in the West. And any North American Christian who says we’re being persecuted should really hold on a minute. This is not the same as the Coptic Christians being in physical danger in Egypt.

Q: So how do you see things here in Canada and in the West in general?
A: Christians are marginalized, they’re mocked, they’re told their views don’t belong, they’re told to keep their views out of the public square and keep their religion at home. And where it can be quite sinister is at universities where Christian students they’re told that their ideas are stupid. I’ve even seen it with my children who are in university. Somehow Christianity is not a valid area of thought any longer. You can bring your socialism, your feminism, your homosexuality, your anti-Zionism into the class but if you bring your Christianity that’s not to be taken seriously.

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Q: But there is a lot about Christianity that can seem unreal: the Virgin Birth, the Resurrection of Jesus. Is it any surprise that people sometimes have trouble taking it seriously?
A: Christians are mocked for believing in the Virgin Birth and the Resurrection but really what they are mocked for is the moral consequences of their beliefs: that life begins at conception and ends at natural death, that abortion is wrong, that promiscuity is wrong. We live in a culture where no one wants to hear the word “no.”

Q: There is a tone of exacerbation in your book. Are you getting fed up with have to defend your faith?
A: When you get it from intelligent people it’s particularly irritating, because they will give other ideologies and other religions a great deal of room to try to understand. When it comes to Christianity they seem to assume that any sense of fairness or sympathy should be thrown out the window. They will say things that are blatantly stupid and that’s irritating.

Q: Like what?
A: To say Hitler once said he was a Christian so he must have been a Christian and Nazism came out of Christianity. Nazism was the antithesis of Christianity. The idea that because a tiny number of Catholic priests acted in an appalling manner should jaundice everything said by the Roman Catholic Church is also so illogical. You might as well say that no comment by a Canadian should ever be taken seriously because there are some serial killers in Canada.

: In the book you say how angry you are that Anders Breivik, the Norwegian mass murderer, is constantly referred to as a Christian. Yet before it was known who the perpetrator was most people assumed it was a Muslim. If it’s okay to label one criminal with his religion, why not the other?
A: When the Norwegian massacre took place I said the chances are that this is a Muslim attack. I said that because there had been an attack in Sweden by Muslim groups and because Muslim groups had been promising they would attack Norway and because there are thousands of attacks every year by Muslims. It was a perfectly good assumption given all the evidence.

Q: But who is to say that these Muslim terrorists are devout Muslims and that the Christians are not devout?
A: Muslims read the Koran just before they attack and declare what they’re doing is in the name of Allah. The Koran supports violent acts. And I’m afraid many ordinary Muslims rejoice in these attacks. But no where in the New Testament does Jesus justify violence. Jesus never led armies and was not a warlord. The few Christians who do these terrible things do it despite their Christian faith. Those Muslims who commit acts of terrorism do it because of their faith. Breivik hadn’t been in a church in 17 years. There is just no evidence for Christian terrorism today.

Q: But I’m sure a lot of ordinary Muslims would disagree with you, especially those living in Canada.
A: I did a radio show and a Muslim called and said, “Well I believe it’s wrong to attack Christianity and I think you would find most every Muslim in the world would agree with me.” And I said: ‘Sir, I cannot listen to this. I’ve held a Bible soaked in the blood of Nigerian Christians slaughtered by Muslim fanatics. I’ve held the bullets fired from the guns of Muslim fanatics attacking Christians in a Baghdad church. There’s not a Muslim country in the world where Christians are treated with absolute equality.’

Q: Do Christians in Canada stand up for themselves enough or are they cowed by secular society telling them to keep their religion at home or in the church?
A: First of all, forget mainstream Protestants (Anglican, United Church, etc.). They’re barely Christian anymore, and they’ll accept anything.
 

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This clown is living in an insular world. The Muslim religion get more maligned than Christianity and they also get bombed, shot and otherwise killed, maimed and mutilated by so called Christian countries. I'm sure Muslims in Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya will vehemently disagree with his self pity.
 

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This clown is living in an insular world. The Muslim religion get more maligned than Christianity and they also get bombed, shot and otherwise killed, maimed and mutilated by so called Christian countries. I'm sure Muslims in Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya will vehemently disagree with his self pity.

The Christians in Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya might agree with him....if there are any left.
 

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"Michael Coren interview: Why he believes Christianity is the most abused faith on Ear[th]" I think that'd be too damned hard to quantify, but I disagree. Islam is just as much maligned, IMO.
Is it just a coincidence that they are the two largest, most aggressive religions? :D
 

Just the Facts

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Can you give a recent example of Muslims being killed by non-Muslims because they're Muslims? I gave it at least a half hearted effort but came up short.

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I don't know if he's technically correct, I suspect Hindus and Buddhists get their fair share of abuse, but in the context of this poll, I'd have to say I agree.

Edit: The same half hearted effort going the other way comes up with quite a bit to work with.

http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&b...by+Muslims+because+they're+christians&spell=1
 

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Can you give a recent example of Muslims being killed by non-Muslims because they're Muslims? I gave it at least a half hearted effort but came up short.

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So one has to find killings to show malignment? Try this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Muslims

http://www.islamawareness.net/Persecution/

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/imams-try-vote-muslim-population-maligned-french-presidential-174038140.html

etc.

I don't know if he's technically correct, I suspect Hindus and Buddhists get their fair share of abuse, but in the context of this poll, I'd have to say I agree.

Edit: The same half hearted effort going the other way comes up with quite a bit to work with.

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[/URL] Oh, definitely no western bias in google. Now try using a search engine from the middle east.
 

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No, malignment does not neccesitate killing, but killing is the most extreme form of malignment, and using it as a baseline helps filter out some of the "noise". Like your links. :)

First one, nothing recent there, and most examples are of Muslims being killed, not Muslims being killed because they're Muslims. Same with your second link. The closest examples would be Kosovo and Bosnia, but even those were the result of conflict, not persecution or malignment. Similar to the situation in Nigeria. You can argue that Christians are killing Muslims because they're Muslims, but you can just as easily argue that Nigerian Christians are killing Muslims because they're killing Christians; bit of a self defense tint there. Same thing in Kashmere.

As for your final link, I'm not sure how being rallied to win an election qualifies as being maligned.

Oh, definitely no western bias in google. Now try using a search engine from the middle east.

Google has western bias? Haven't heard of that, hang on lemme google it. :)

I would be happy to use a middle eastern search engine, can you recommend any in English? Or better yet, why don't YOU use a middle eastern search engine and let us know what you find.
 

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No, malignment does not neccesitate killing, but killing is the most extreme form of malignment, and using it as a baseline helps filter out some of the "noise". Like your links. :)
Using an extreme as a baseline? oooooooooo k

First one, nothing recent there, and most examples are of Muslims being killed, not Muslims being killed because they're Muslims. Same with your second link. The closest examples would be Kosovo and Bosnia, but even those were the result of conflict, not persecution or malignment. Similar to the situation in Nigeria. You can argue that Christians are killing Muslims because they're Muslims, but you can just as easily argue that Nigerian Christians are killing Muslims because they're killing Christians; bit of a self defense tint there. Same thing in Kashmere.
lol You brought up the "recent" "rule". It ain't mine. Recent is relative.
I think it'd be pretty hard to separate a Muslim from his/her religion, so in a sense, if a Muslim is maligned, it's at least apparent to that Muslim and other Muslims that it must be because of Islam.
Ever notice all the anti-Islam crap in the States?

As for your final link, I'm not sure how being rallied to win an election qualifies as being maligned.
"But this year, there is a special new effort to mobilize French Muslims to speak up at the ballot box in Sunday's presidential race — amid a surge of Islam-bashing among the French right." I am not sure about you but "bashing" can be seen as maligning, IMO.



Google has western bias? Haven't heard of that, hang on lemme google it. :)
I don't know about yours, but my Google is distinctly Canadian-biased.

I would be happy to use a middle eastern search engine, can you recommend any in English? Or better yet, why don't YOU use a middle eastern search engine and let us know what you find.
http://www.philb.com/cse/arab.htm

I always thought that Christianity was mostly abused by Christians.
How do you mean "abused"? Do Christians make a habit of purposefully disparaging their own religion?
 

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This clown is living in an insular world. The Muslim religion get more maligned than Christianity and they also get bombed, shot and otherwise killed, maimed and mutilated by so called Christian countries. I'm sure Muslims in Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya will vehemently disagree with his self pity.

You are living in an insular world.

Michael Coren has never been on a self pity trip and while I don't agree with him on some issues you just made his point by assuming that he is some self pitying Christian. He is not. In fact Coren has championed the rights of Muslims. among others. He was against the Iraq War, changed his stance on the Afghan war and has been quite balanced on a number of issues including the Palestinian/Jewish conflict.

Climb out of your little shell sometime Cliff there's a whole world outside here.

Oh and by the way I hear more about gutless attacks on Christianity by all sorts here nevermind the Hollywood Elite when they wouldn't dare do the same to Muslims for fear of getting their melon's detached.
 

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This clown is living in an insular world. The Muslim religion get more maligned than Christianity and they also get bombed, shot and otherwise killed, maimed and mutilated by so called Christian countries. I'm sure Muslims in Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya will vehemently disagree with his self pity.

I reiterate that i am not religious but must suggest that you try renouncing and denouncing Islam in an Islamic country as you do here. If you survive it would be assumed that you would more appreciate the country you live in that was created under Christianity and has progressed too slow for your liking.
 

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One could say that Islam has progressed too slowly for your liking, even though it is about 6 centuries younger than Christianity. What was Christianity like 6 centuries ago?

Oh I see, so Islam is just suffering growing pains. Cutting peoples heads off and mutilating the genitalia of pre-pubescent girls is because they haven't discovered the motor car, or the internet, or the vibrator. They just need some time to catch up?

What a load of hooey.