Heard Immigration Minister Kenny on the CBC This Week


Spade
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#31
Scots get lighter, too. Lack of haggis, I think.
 
petros
#32
Nothing matters Spade. It's all just cosmic fluff. Irrelevant in the big scope of things like the sweece under the fridge and kazoon under the sofa. It's just there.
 
Spade
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#33
You're right. Need some ice cream and then to sleep.
 
dumpthemonarchy
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Quote: Originally Posted by ToningtonView Post

Surprised Durrpdumpy isn't all over this yet:

Yacht tragedy may be human smuggling, Toews says - Nova Scotia - CBC News

We could use the F-35s or whatever we have now to bomb suspected smuggler ships off our coasts. The air force would get some badly needed practice since they don't like to do search and rescue missions or even patrol of the Arctic. Wimpy stuff doesn't please Cheney and Bush, only bombing miss-oops, air support does. There's also a ship from Japan on its way here that could be used for target practice. Likely from a village with an unpronounceable name.
 
petros
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#35
For you dumpy: Risperidone Dosage - Drugs.com (external - login to view)
 
CDNBear
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Quote: Originally Posted by dumpthemonarchyView Post

We could use the F-35s or whatever we have now to bomb suspected smuggler ships off our coasts.

I knew it wouldn't take long for you to go from promoting simple fascism, to wholesale murder.

Quote: Originally Posted by dumpthemonarchyView Post

You may buy into the idea that Canada is stolen land and aboriginals 'technically" still own Canada. This allows the lawyers-white and aboriginal, to endless debate this topic at public expense ad nauseum. You feel like a temp, fine, I don't. I would like this issue discussed more and a decisive decision made on it. I think too many have guilt over this, which inhibits openness and discussion. If

Canada is a country of immigrants, is there another 'country of " ". Fill in the blank. Say use China or France as an example.

Meanwhile, more Attawaspiskats languish out there and aboriginals are not getting the education and job skills they require to survive, and they are getting sicker with diseases like TB and their suicide rates are off the charts. Aboriginals get $10,000 per head, per year, and most is wasted by lawyers and leaders. I say give it to the people.

The bulk of that post is beyond stupid.
Last edited by CDNBear; Mar 28th, 2012 at 04:42 PM..
 
WLDB
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Quote: Originally Posted by DurryView Post

This is not technically correct. Canada was built by Europeans. To say just immigrants is not correct. Other immigrants from other countries did not start coming to Canada almost until after ww2, after all the infrastructure was in place (besides the Chinese who came earlier). These immigrants from south Asia, for instance, could not build sh^t, that's why they settled where the Europeans were. They never build a city of there own anywhere in N America, they could only survive if they were associated with europeans.

And those Europeans were immigrants.

Quote: Originally Posted by dumpthemonarchyView Post

You may buy into the idea that Canada is stolen land and aboriginals 'technically" still own Canada. This allows the lawyers-white and aboriginal, to endless debate this topic at public expense ad nauseum. You feel like a temp, fine, I don't.

I do not, actually. You like to keep putting those words into other people's mouths.
 
damngrumpy
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#38
When they bring back the head tax as mentioned do you want to use the election slogan of the
time as well? Disgusting as is was, the election cry was Beware of the Yellow Peril. Of course
good Canadians don't want to be reminded of that. They have new attitudes now like, oh,
the Native thing happened so long ago why don't those people just move on and forget it.

Seems to me we left out the part about we stole their house back then and we still don't want to
pay anything for it at all. No we didn't steal it, but we sure benefited from our great grandparents
sealing the land. Immigration is a good thing but we do have to be mindful of who is let in to be
part of the Canadian family as it were. I think we should pay attention to detail. For example if
there are potential citizens that are not going to obey the laws of the land or they want to subvert
them we should scrutinize them closely.
For example those who think, honor killings are something to do on Sunday afternoon for example.
or people who come here get a citizenship and then go back to their homeland and fight for groups
opposing our forces overseas. We are all for allowing certain groups in who still protect the ideals
of oppression both religiously and domination of women. On the other hand we won't allow others
in who are supposed terrorists who are fighting against repressive governments in order to bring
open democratic ideals. The entire immigration service is a mess in my view and we should embark
on cleaning it up before changing any rules.
 
Tonington
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Quote: Originally Posted by DurryView Post

This is not technically correct. Canada was built by Europeans. To say just immigrants is not correct. Other immigrants from other countries did not start coming to Canada almost until after ww2, after all the infrastructure was in place (besides the Chinese who came earlier).

So, you think that the Canada that exists now is as it was before WW2? That's a pretty ignorant thing to say. Canada is a work in progress. It's still being built.

What a Maroon. Not to be confused with the Maroons who came to Nova Scotia from Jamaica and helped fend off the forces of Napoleon, and who helped to construct the Halifax Citadel, before the British sent them to Sierra Leone.
 
L Gilbert
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#40  Top Rated Post
Quote: Originally Posted by dumpthemonarchyView Post

You may buy into the idea that Canada is stolen land and aboriginals 'technically" still own Canada. This allows the lawyers-white and aboriginal, to endless debate this topic at public expense ad nauseum. You feel like a temp, fine, I don't. I would like this issue discussed more and a decisive decision made on it. I think too many have guilt over this, which inhibits openness and discussion. If

Canada is a country of immigrants, is there another 'country of " ". Fill in the blank. Say use China or France as an example.

Meanwhile, more Attawaspiskats languish out there and aboriginals are not getting the education and job skills they require to survive, and they are getting sicker with diseases like TB and their suicide rates are off the charts. Aboriginals get $10,000 per head, per year, and most is wasted by lawyers and leaders. I say give it to the people.

lol You're so dense you're fµckin hilarious. Kind of like a deaf bat.
 
CDNBear
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Quote: Originally Posted by L GilbertView Post

lol You're so dense you're fµckin hilarious. Kind of like a deaf bat.

 
L Gilbert
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Quote: Originally Posted by dumpthemonarchyView Post

Canada is an extension of Europe, we speak languages that are spoken in Europe, English and French, the former dominating.

Oh, is that why Canuckville is called the "Great White North"? lmao
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We all jumped from tree to tree and then came out of Africa.

I can believe that of you but not most of humanity.
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Aboriginals are immigrants too, except they came so long ago they actually can't remember Asia. Canada is unlike most countries in that it was made far after old countries like China and France, who are indigenous to their countries because they don't have a story of coming from somewhere else. We do. In the history of the world, people fought for land, some won, some lost. Which we are reminded of when articles say there are over 5000 languages and only 200 countries.

Flipflopping from "we all jumped from tree to tree and then came out of Africa" to "like China and France, who are indigenous to their countries because they don't have a story of coming from somewhere else". Yer killin me. lmao

Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

So what's the problem?

Chinese and Indians have been here 160 years.

Actually the Chinese have been heere since at least as long ago as the 18th century.
 
Durry
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#43
Quote: Originally Posted by L GilbertView Post

Actually the Chinese have been heere since at least as long ago as the 18th century.

Well it's too bad they didn't build any infrastructure given that they were here so early. I guess seeing as they couldn't build anything meaningful in China it would only follow that they would not be able to build anything meaningful in N America.
I guess this goes to point out that only those with European backgrounds can build successful infrastructures and countries...
 
CDNBear
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Quote: Originally Posted by DurryView Post

Well it's too bad they didn't build any infrastructure given that they were here so early. I guess seeing as they couldn't build anything meaningful in China it would only follow that they would not be able to build anything meaningful in N America.
I guess this goes to point out that only those with European backgrounds can build successful infrastructures and countries...



Chinese labour built a vast majority of the rail system across Canada.

The Great wall of China.

Nautical charts and technology, that exceeded European knowledge of the time.

Wow Durry. When you stuff your feet in your mouth you use some serious force!!!

You and dumpster should get together. At the very least you two could help each other pull your feet out of your mouths after each post.
 
Durry
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Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBearView Post


Chinese labour built a vast majority of the rail system across Canada.
The Great wall of China.
Nautical charts and technology, that exceeded European knowledge of the time.
Wow Durry. When you stuff your feet in your mouth you use some serious force!!!
You and dumpster should get together. At the very least you two could help each other pull your feet out of your mouths after each post.

The chinese only helped build the BC portion of the RR, not the vast majority as you incorrectly state. The europeans provided the engineering and construction skills and the chinese provided some of the labour. It's obvious your eastern schools can't teach you sh^t.
History: Building the Canadian Pacific Railway - Chinese - Explore the Communities - The Kids' Site of Canadian Settlement - Library and Archives Canada (external - login to view)
The Chinese are still building china which is about a century behind N America. They were once great inventors but all they seem to be able to do now is to copy whatever the US builds/does..
 
CDNBear
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Quote: Originally Posted by DurryView Post

The chinese only helped build the BC portion of the RR, not the vast majority as you incorrectly state.
History: Building the Canadian Pacific Railway - Chinese - Explore the Communities - The Kids' Site of Canadian Settlement - Library and Archives Canada (external - login to view)

I'll eat that one. But lets look at what you said...

Quote: Originally Posted by DurryView Post

Well it's too bad they didn't build any infrastructure given that they were here so early.

I may have erred on their participation. You said they didn't do anything at all.

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The europeans provided the engineering and construction skills and the chinese provided some of the labour.

Some? Your own link says 17,000. Other sources say that only 2% of the workers on the BC portion, were European.

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It's obvious your eastern schools can't teach you sh^t.

They taught me how to read. They also taught me about China...

Quote: Originally Posted by DurryView Post

I guess seeing as they couldn't build anything meaningful in China...

Since you moved the goalposts in your reply...

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The Chinese are still building china which is about a century behind N America.

A decade maybe, but only in certain aspects. They have a fairly decent space program. One that far surpasses Canada's.

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...it would only follow that they would not be able to build anything meaningful in N America.

I'm sure someone as bereft of any form of education, would think the rail system, that bound the country, isn't meaningful.

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They were once great inventors but all they seem to be able to do now is to copy whatever the US builds/does..

That's an excellent way to negate the fact that they were leaps and bounds ahead of Europeans at one point...
 
L Gilbert
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#47
Quote: Originally Posted by DurryView Post

Well it's too bad they didn't build any infrastructure given that they were here so early. I guess seeing as they couldn't build anything meaningful in China it would only follow that they would not be able to build anything meaningful in N America.
I guess this goes to point out that only those with European backgrounds can build successful infrastructures and countries...

lol
"Meaningful" is a subjective and relative term and in your case, extremely limited.
History of China (external - login to view)

Quote: Originally Posted by DurryView Post

The chinese only helped build the BC portion of the RR, not the vast majority as you incorrectly state. The europeans provided the engineering and construction skills and the chinese provided some of the labour. It's obvious your eastern schools can't teach you sh^t.
History: Building the Canadian Pacific Railway - Chinese - Explore the Communities - The Kids' Site of Canadian Settlement - Library and Archives Canada (external - login to view)
The Chinese are still building china which is about a century behind N America. They were once great inventors but all they seem to be able to do now is to copy whatever the US builds/does..

So? North America had to catch up to Europe. Wait till it catches up with the rest of the industrialised planet.
 
dumpthemonarchy
#48
Kenney said also, "Unlike the Chretien Liberals in the 1990s, who reduced immigration for a few years, the Tories have not, and have kept immigration at the 250,000 level." Just more cheap labour, a flunky of capital. All those carpenters, engineers and marketers from Asia and Africa, who knew.
 
dumpthemonarchy
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Met another immigrant, trained as a physiotherapist in China, who is working as a janitor in Surrey. Been working for two years to get her papers here. Canada does not have a shortage of professionals. Sask and Alta have a few oil patch skill shortages, but that's about all folks. Canada lies big time to professionals who want to immigrate here.

The fed govt lies and provincial professional licensing orgs just shrug and say we have plenty already. It reminds me of a sign from the 1930s "Unemployed men, keep moving, we can't take care of our own"

Canadian immigration policy is to increase the population, take in poor Latin Americans instead. There's no need to lie. Take in people who once they arrive, they feel they have a better life and are grateful to be here. Why does that seem so difficult?
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petros
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Quote: Originally Posted by dumpthemonarchyView Post

Sask and Alta have a few oil patch skill shortages, but that's about all folks. Canada lies big time to professionals who want to immigrate here.

Yup 300,000 skilled TRADES in the next ten years. What about all the other professionals and unskilled labour needed to meet the needs of the 300,000 skilled trades in oil alone?
 
dumpthemonarchy
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Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

Yup 300,000 skilled TRADES in the next ten years. What about all the other professionals and unskilled labour needed to meet the needs of the 300,000 skilled trades in oil alone?

Check the headlines, check the articles, they are all LOOMING shortages, they are not here now, today, in the present. And it's usually in a survey, a forecast, a prognostication, a guess. Great for capital, bad for labour. We need more immigrants, many many more. And boy, when these shortages hit, they are going to be catastrophes, worse than the hunger games. You just wait. Chicken little is here, now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
petros
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Quote: Originally Posted by dumpthemonarchyView Post

Check the headlines, check the articles, they are all LOOMING shortages, they are not here now, today, in the present. And it's usually in a survey, a forecast, a prognostication, a guess. Great for capital, bad for labour. We need more immigrants, many many more. And boy, when these shortages hit, they are going to be catastrophes, worse than the hunger games. You just wait. Chicken little is here, now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No problems! That's America is for. Skilled labour that knows the language.

it doesn't look like they'll find work at home for quite sometime.
 
dumpthemonarchy
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Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

No problems! That's America is for. Skilled labour that knows the language.

it doesn't look like they'll find work at home for quite sometime.

Sure, but why is the oilpatch is looking to Ireland for skilled labour then? Could worse in USA than they say.

Many Americans could go to China and teach English. They would like you to have a degree, but if you're blonde, young and attractive, few worries as the Chinese are known to be deal makers.
*Native Speakers are needed now, Teach in Beautiful Romantic and Leisure city - Hangzhou, the Capital city of Zhejiang Province (external - login to view)
 
petros
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Who said it's the oil patch? Sask labour went looking for all sorts of people from accountants to zoologists.
 
dumpthemonarchy
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Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

Who said it's the oil patch? Sask labour went looking for all sorts of people from accountants to zoologists.

But we can't persuade or force immigrants to move there, they have full rights as citizens as soon as they land. they can work where they wish as they have full mobility rights. It's not always the smartest or best way for the country, but it's the way we do it. Just let them flood into warm Vancouver. Part of the "just let them in philosophy" that prevails, screw the rules.
 

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