Nanny State gone Mad!!! Gun drawing causes arrest....

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I would assume that if he was locked up because his daughter drew a picture of a gun, then all the teachers and school staff would be imprisoned if they watched a cop show on tv.
 
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First of all I blame the four year old child. How dare she use her imagination? How dare she
use her independent imagination not influenced by the system? Can you imagine if other kids
develop their own opinions or begin to use their imaginations? Why we could have independent
thoughts breaking out every where.
This is a case where the parents should have the full recourse of the law to go after the teacher,
the school, the police and the Ministry of Families or whoever. Now I am not a fan of Sun media
however in this case I do support their view here.
Everyone over reacted and the fact that a child drew a picture of something they personally don't
approve of should not have set off an alarm bell. What the hell has happened to our society?
Have we descended into complete stupidity and is there any hope that mass television therapy
might help? Oh wait we can't have that, at least not without a statement about this might be
offensive or disturbing to some viewers.
Good God if the authoritiies are the ones out of control who is running the asylum?
 
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I agree that everyone over reacted and behaved stupidly. That said, the girl indicated her father had a gun to shoot bad people and other comments which lead the police to believe the father illegally possessed an improperly stored handgun. That would be a crime, with potentially lethal consequences.

The police have to react to that and search for an illegally possessed hand gun which could have been on this person or sitting on the coffee table at home loaded. The main fear is that a child could pick up the gun and shoot themselves or someone else. another possibility is that the person is armed and could resist with lethal force. Police can't know this person wasn't a threat and have to act in a way that everyone is safe from various worst case scenarios.

Colpy seems to be an expert in this field. I agree the reaction was extreme, but the police have to react to possible criminal activity. How would you suggest the police should have reacted?
 
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Too bad there isn't a law against terminal stupidity. Then the teacher, social workers and the cops would all be in jail.
 
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earth_as_one said:
Please connect the dots. How did you get from the possibility of an illegal improperly stored handgun to blaming the socialists?
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What possible hand gun. That only existed in the minds(i use the term loosely) of some teacher and a bunch of social workers with nothing better to do. A four year old drew a picture. She is smarter than the whole bunch involved.
 
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Or anyone else... How should the police react? Lets assume the location was Jane and Finch (higher crime area associated with gang related violence including shootings) and the man was black if that makes a difference. The girl said her father had a gun to shoot bad people and other clues indicating he illegally possessed an improperly stored handgun.
 
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earth_as_one said:
Or anyone else... How should the police react? Lets assume the location was Jane and Finch (higher crime area associated with gang related violence including shootings) and the man was black if that makes a difference. The girl said her father had a gun to shoot bad people and other clues indicating he illegally possessed an improperly stored handgun.
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That's it, show your bigotry even more. More of the Nazi coming out?
 
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earth_as_one said:
I agree that everyone over reacted and behaved stupidly. That said, the girl indicated her father had a gun to shoot bad people and other comments which lead the police to believe the father illegally possessed an improperly stored handgun. That would be a crime, with potentially lethal consequences.

The police have to react to that and search for an illegally possessed hand gun which could have been on this person or sitting on the coffee table at home loaded. The main fear is that a child could pick up the gun and shoot themselves or someone else. another possibility is that the person is armed and could resist with lethal force. Police can't know this person wasn't a threat and have to act in a way that everyone is safe from various worst case scenarios.

Colpy seems to be an expert in this field. I agree the reaction was extreme, but the police have to react to possible criminal activity. How would you suggest the police should have reacted?
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If the kid had drawn a picture of a plane, would anyone have assumed her father flew a plane without being licensed? If the kid had drawn a bottle of beer, would anyone have assumed her father drove while inebriated? What if the kid had drawn a Martian? Would everyone go into a "War Of The Worlds" panic? If she'd drawn a tiger would everyone assume her father was illegally importing foreign wildlife? If she'd drawn a poppy plant would anyone assume her father was producing opium?
Unreal. Nannyism and extreme over-reaction at its best. Just like inflicting stupid firearms laws on an entire population over a few incidents.
IMO, people like these should not have jobs of much responsibility because their senses of judgement and priorities are pretty much fracked.
 
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earth_as_one said:
Or anyone else... How should the police react? Lets assume the location was Jane and Finch (higher crime area associated with gang related violence including shootings) and the man was black if that makes a difference. The girl said her father had a gun to shoot bad people and other clues indicating he illegally possessed an improperly stored handgun.
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If I lived in an area like that I would carry a hand gun too.
Since you are in lala land are we talking illegally owned and stored according to the law or reality? Because in my view if he paid for the gun or inherited it, it is legally owned. Likewise the legal definition of properly stored does not reflect reality.
 
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L Gilbert said:
Nannyism and extreme over-reaction at its best.
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Which would be justified by the nannyism that would undoubtedly explode, if there actually was, an unlicensed weapon in the home, and it were to be used negatively in the future.

I can just hear the accusations, and demands for answers now.

It's a vicious circle.

I fully understand your position, I fully understand EAO'.

Somewhere in the middle, there's a happy medium.
 
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First of all I don't agree taxslave that all socialists are stupid anymore than I would say that
a lot of my Conservative or Liberal friends are stupid. I am both left and right depending on
the issue.
The other part of this is that the child did not indicate her father had a gun to shoot bad people.
The child drew a picture of a gun that somewhere in her mind impressed her because there
was not gun or evidence of one in the home. Daddy hunting monsters could mean anything.
I have a three year old great grandson who goes hunting monsters with his dad and her goes
as Spider Man. No big deal.
The kids have all kinds toy guns these days some looking surprisingly real. Nope this was a
case of feeding frenzy. The over zealous kindergarten teacher, the Principal of the school the
police, and finally the Ministry of child services. Who the hell cares whether the child drew a
gun? What impresses one person does not impress another, regardless of age. Individuality
is to be encouraged not the center of discriminatory policy. I would suggest that one can draw
a picture of what ever the hell they want as long as it is legal. Anyone trying to defend this
policy knows the system broke down and the family was abused by the very services that are
supposed to protect them. I am more left than I am right on the political scale but I can see
this was an abuse of power and nothing less.
 
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This is one of the dumbest stories ever told. But what is dumber is bringing left/right politics into it. Almost as dumb as the cops who arrested this guy.

I think taxslaves theme song should be "Mine eys have seen the glory of the coming of the Reds, They are hiding in our closets, they are hiding 'neath our beds."

Commies are everywhere!!!!!!!! DUCK!!!!!
 
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