Iran - Sanctions - Blockades - War - Treaties - to name a few possibilities


Goober
#91
Quote: Originally Posted by GooberView Post

EAO - Did I rattle your humanity again????

Still waiting Buckey.....
 
CDNBear
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#92
Quote: Originally Posted by earth_as_oneView Post

I trust Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch.

Despite the fact that I have shown that...

1, They reinterpret international law, to suit their agenda.
2, Start with the basis that all war is illegal.
3, Have a proven bias.
4, Rely heavily on anecdotal evidence.

Quote: Originally Posted by gore0bsessedView Post

"France condemns the consequences of the raid," he said. "While we are all for Israeli security, France recalls the utmost necessity to avoid civilian harm," Valero said, without specifying the nature of their injuries.

You have to just love those double standards.
 
Goober
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#93
Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBearView Post

Despite the fact that I have shown that...

1, They reinterpret international law, to suit their agenda.
2, Start with the basis that all war is illegal.
3, Have a proven bias.
4, Rely heavily on anecdotal evidence.

You have to just love those double standards.

Pretty difficult to prevent civilian causalities when Hamas sets up in areas where schools, mosques, UN org are located.
 
CDNBear
#94
Quote: Originally Posted by GooberView Post

Pretty difficult to prevent civilian causalities when Hamas sets up in areas where schools, mosques, UN org are located.

True.

But I still question the value of retaliating against targets, where the IDF must be aware that civilians will suffer.
 
Goober
#95
Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBearView Post

True.

But I still question the value of retaliating against targets, where the IDF must be aware that civilians will suffer.

Good point. As we have discussed before on a Canadian Major. i think that was a deliberate targeting. My opinion. In a crowded area such as Gaza, there is always a high probability that civilians will be injured or killed. A sad situation as they are in many cases held hostage to Hams and the other wackos.

My opinion again. Take away the PLO reasons for not returning to the Negotiations - Freezing new construction. Then see what happens. Hamas and the PLO will have to decide.

BBC News - Iran nuclear: UN voices 'deep concern' over plans (external - login to view)
For those that swore the IAEA was God will now turn away from their God. Says a lot about where they stand on evidence and information. If it agrees with a person views it is relevant. If it disagrees than it is a US or what the fuk plot.

And the above point has been proven based upon a Scientific analysis and the facts as mentioned above were proven.


The UN's nuclear watchdog has passed a resolution expressing "deep and increasing concern" about Iran's nuclear programme.

The IAEA resolution called on Iran to clear up outstanding questions about its nuclear capabilities, but did not refer it to the UN Security Council.

A recent IAEA report said Iran had carried out tests "relevant to the development of a nuclear device".

Iran's IAEA envoy said the resolution would only strengthen Iran's resolve.

"It will be business as usual... We will continue our work as before," Ali Ashgar Soltanieh told reporters.

Iran insists that it is enriching uranium only to use as fuel for nuclear power stations. However, the US and its allies believe it is trying to develop a nuclear weapon.

Hard-hitting

The resolution was adopted by 32 votes against two - Cuba and Ecuador - at an IAEA meeting in Vienna.
 
earth_as_one
#96
The US and its allies also believed Iraq had WMD stockpiles ready for launch in 30 minutes as well as involvement in the events of 9/11. Did you believe those lies too?

The recent IAEA report contains no new information, except for the revelation that Iranian nuclear scientists played with poor quality nuclear bomb simulations... according to the US claims regarding what they found on a laptop they stole from one of these scientists. But such accusations wouldn't hold up in a court of law, since the US had years to tamper with the evidence.

The fact is that Iran has an NPT right to pursue peaceful nuclear technology. I don't think Iranians want or need nuclear weapons... at the present moment. If they wanted one, they'd have built one years ago. Since they don't already have one, it strongly suggests they aren't actively pursuing one.

At some point Iran may decide to violate the NPT and build one. I suspect they are waiting for Israel or the US to provide justification.

Regarding the use of human shields... I could rant about Israel's ridiculous claims, but this person already did. Why re-invent the wheel:

In Gaza Conflict - Which Side Is Using Human Shields - YouTube

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Goober
#97
Quote: Originally Posted by earth_as_oneView Post

The US and its allies also believed Iraq had WMD stockpiles ready for launch in 30 minutes as well as involvement in the events of 9/11. Did you believe those lies too?

Well Chuckey even Saddams General believed he had WMD's. Just the facts - Most people had that belief based upon his years of obstructing UN Inspectors.

So were you one of the few that did not??????????????????????????
 
CDNBear
#98
Quote: Originally Posted by earth_as_oneView Post

The US and its allies also believed Iraq had WMD stockpiles ready for launch in 30 minutes as well as involvement in the events of 9/11.

Why wouldn't they? They had good intel from Germany that it was true.

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Did you believe those lies too?

You didn't?

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Regarding the use of human shields... I could rant about Israel's ridiculous claims, but this person already did. Why re-invent the wheel:

Gawd bless that anecdotal evidence. Where would you be without it.

It's a shame you question any anecdotal evidence, about Palestinians...
 
earth_as_one
#99
The fact is, Iraq was cooperating with UNMOVIC and the US decision to invade occupy Iraq came soon after UNMOVIC reported to the UNSC that Iraq was cooperating and that all remaining disarmament issues would be resolved within months. The Bush regime knew that once Iraq was declared free of WMds, the American public would not support an invasion. That's why they invaded Iraq before UNMOVIC filed their final report.

7 MARCH 2003
How much time would it take to resolve the key remaining disarmament tasks? While cooperation can and is to be immediate, disarmament and at any rate the verification of it cannot be instant. Even with a proactive Iraqi attitude, induced by continued outside pressure, it would still take some time to verify sites and items, analyse documents, interview relevant persons, and draw conclusions. It would not take years, nor weeks, but months. Neither governments nor inspectors would want disarmament inspection to go on forever. However, it must be remembered that in accordance with the governing resolutions, a sustained inspection and monitoring system is to remain in place after verified disarmament to give confidence and to strike an alarm, if signs were seen of the revival of any proscribed weapons programmes.
Security Council 7 March 2003 (external - login to view)
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Goober
#100
Quote: Originally Posted by earth_as_oneView Post

The fact is, Iraq was cooperating with UNMOVIC and the US decision to invade occupy Iraq came soon after they reported that Iraq was cooperating and that all remaining disarmament issues within

Please review the Iran Parliament and what they they have mad as public statements. Also try and tear apart what i had mentioned as part of the OP.
 
CDNBear
#101
Quote: Originally Posted by earth_as_oneView Post

The fact is, Iraq was cooperating with UNMOVIC and the US decision to invade occupy Iraq came soon after they reported that Iraq was cooperating and that all remaining disarmament issues within a few months.

But Germany had good intel.

Why aren't you bitching about them?

Germany is where it all started.
 
earth_as_one
#102
Also Iraq cooperated with UNSCOM until they stopped searching for WMDs and started using their access to Iraq to spy on behalf of the US and Israel:
BBC News | Middle East | Unscom 'infiltrated by spies' (external - login to view)
and
FAIR ACTION ALERT: Spying in Iraq: From Fact to Allegation (external - login to view)
 
CDNBear
#103
Quote: Originally Posted by earth_as_oneView Post

Also Iraq cooperated with UNSCOM until they stopped searching for WMDs and started using their access to Iraq to spy on behalf of the US and Israel:
BBC News | Middle East | Unscom 'infiltrated by spies' (external - login to view)
and
FAIR ACTION ALERT: Spying in Iraq: From Fact to Allegation (external - login to view)

More excuses.
 
earth_as_one
#104
If anyone had proof that Iraq had WMD stockpiles then they would have found them by now. That WMDs were never found in Iraq after the invasion proves the US acted on unfounded allegations alone.

That makes the US government either guilty of war crimes for deliberately starting an unprovoked war or criminally incompetent for starting an unprovoked war based solely on unproven allegations.
 
CDNBear
#105
Quote: Originally Posted by earth_as_oneView Post

If anyone had proof that Iraq had WMD stockpiles then they would have found them by now.

No sh!t Sherlock.

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That WMDs were never found in Iraq after the invasion proves the US acted on unfounded allegations alone.

Your grasp of the obvious, is nothing less than breathtaking.

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That makes the US government either guilty or war crimes for deliberately starting an unprovoked war or criminally incompetent for starting an unprovoked war based solely on unproven allegations.

Sorry to deflate your hate, but it would appear to be the latter. And I don't know anyone that doesn't think that.

So when are you going to start bitching about Germany?
 
earth_as_one
#106
So why haven't the criminally incompetent been charged with dragging the US into an unfounded war with Iraq? A big clue has to to with how much money Bush and Cheney's oil buddies made off that war over the dead bodies of thousands of US service men and women and hundreds of thousands of dead Iraqis.

The most likely answer is that the people at the top knew Iraq didn't have WMDS. But they figured that by the time Americans and people like yourself figured out they had been fooled they wouldn't care.

Here is Iran's official policy regarding nuclear weapons, the NPT and the IAEA:
International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) :: IAEA and Iran (external - login to view)
 
CDNBear
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#107
Quote: Originally Posted by earth_as_oneView Post

So why haven't the criminally incompetent been charged with dragging the US into an unfounded war with Iraq?

If being stupid and incompetent was a crime, you'd be serving a life sentence.

Just look at the anecdotal evidence you post like it was fact.

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A big clue has to to with how much money Bush and Cheney's oil buddies made off that war over the dead bodies of thousands of US service men and women and hundreds of thousands of dead Iraqis.

I'm waiting for 1012 to cash in on nutters breaking the bank on survival gear.

Doesn't mean I perpetuate the silliness.

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The most likely answer is that the people at the top knew Iraq didn't have WMDS.

And most likely, you can find some anecdotal story to feed your hate hungry mind, and bolster that notion.

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But they figured that by the time Americans and people like yourself figured out they had been fooled they wouldn't care.

I was fooled?
 
Goober
#108
Quote: Originally Posted by earth_as_oneView Post

So why haven't the criminally incompetent been charged with dragging the US into an unfounded war with Iraq? A big clue has to to with how much money Bush and Cheney's oil buddies made off that war over the dead bodies of thousands of US service men and women and hundreds of thousands of dead Iraqis.

The most likely answer is that the people at the top knew Iraq didn't have WMDS. But they figured that by the time Americans and people like yourself figured out they had been fooled they wouldn't care.

Here is Iran's official policy regarding nuclear weapons, the NPT and the IAEA:
International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) :: IAEA and Iran (external - login to view)

There is no sense in discussing things with you - You are nothing but a minor Chamberlain.
 
earth_as_one
#109
This UNMOVIC report delivered just a few weeks before the US invasion reveals that Iraq was known not to be a WMD threat before the invasion:

SECURITY COUNCIL 7 MARCH 2003
Oral introduction of the 12th quarterly report of UNMOVIC
Executive Chairman Dr. Hans Blix




Mr. President,


For nearly three years, I have been coming to the Security Council presenting the quarterly reports of UNMOVIC. They have described our many preparations for the resumption of inspections in Iraq. The 12th quarterly report is the first that describes three months of inspections. They come after four years without inspections. The report was finalized ten days ago and a number of relevant events have taken place since then. Today’s statement will supplement the circulated report on these points to bring the Council up-to-date.

Inspection process


Inspections in Iraq resumed on 27 November 2002. In matters relating to process, notably prompt access to sites, we have faced relatively few difficulties and certainly much less than those that were faced by UNSCOM in the period 1991 to 1998. This may well be due to the strong outside pressure.

Some practical matters, which were not settled by the talks, Dr. ElBaradei and I had with the Iraqi side in Vienna prior to inspections or in resolution 1441 (2002), have been resolved at meetings, which we have had in Baghdad. Initial difficulties raised by the Iraqi side about helicopters and aerial surveillance planes operating in the no-fly zones were overcome. This is not to say that the operation of inspections is free from frictions, but at this juncture we are able to perform professional no-notice inspections all over Iraq and to increase aerial surveillance.



American U-2 and French Mirage surveillance aircraft already give us valuable imagery, supplementing satellite pictures and we would expect soon to be able to add night vision capability through an aircraft offered to us by the Russian Federation. We also expect to add low-level, close area surveillance through drones provided by Germany. We are grateful not only to the countries, which place these valuable tools at our disposal, but also to the States, most recently Cyprus, which has agreed to the stationing of aircraft on their territory.


Documents and interviews


Iraq, with a highly developed administrative system, should be able to provide more documentary evidence about its proscribed weapons programmes. Only a few new such documents have come to light so far and been handed over since we began inspections. It was a disappointment that Iraq’s Declaration of 7 December did not bring new documentary evidence. I hope that efforts in this respect, including the appointment of a governmental commission, will give significant results. When proscribed items are deemed unaccounted for it is above all credible accounts that is needed – or the proscribed items, if they exist.

Where authentic documents do not become available, interviews with persons, who may have relevant knowledge and experience, may be another way of obtaining evidence. UNMOVIC has names of such persons in its records and they are among the people whom we seek to interview. In the last month, Iraq has provided us with the names of many persons, who may be relevant sources of information, in particular, persons who took part in various phases of the unilateral destruction of biological and chemical weapons, and proscribed missiles in 1991. The provision of names prompts two reflections:

The first is that with such detailed information existing regarding those who took part in the unilateral destruction, surely there must also remainrecords regarding the quantities and other data concerning the various items destroyed.


The second reflection is that with relevant witnesses available it becomes even more important to be able to conduct interviews in modes and locations, which allow us to be confident that the testimony is given without outside influence. While the Iraqi side seems to have encouraged interviewees not to request the presence of Iraqi officials (so-called minders) or the taping of the interviews, conditions ensuring the absence of undue influences are difficult to attain inside Iraq. Interviews outside the country might provide such assurance. It is our intention to request such interviews shortly. Nevertheless, despite remaining shortcomings, interviews are useful. Since we started requesting interviews, 38 individuals were asked for private interviews, of which 10 accepted under our terms, 7 of these during the last week.


As I noted on 14 February, intelligence authorities have claimed that weapons of mass destruction are moved around Iraq by trucks and, in particular, that there are mobile production units for biological weapons. The Iraqi side states that such activities do not exist. Several inspections have taken place at declared and undeclared sites in relation to mobile production facilities. Food testing mobile laboratories and mobile workshops have been seen, as well as large containers with seed processing equipment. No evidence of proscribed activities have so far been found. Iraq is expected to assist in the development of credible ways to conduct random checks of ground transportation.

Inspectors are also engaged in examining Iraq’s programme for Remotely Piloted Vehicles (RPVs). A number of sites have been inspected with data being collected to assess the range and other capabilities of the various models found. Inspections are continuing in this area.

There have been reports, denied from the Iraqi side, that proscribed activities are conducted underground. Iraq should provide information on any underground structure suitable for the production or storage of WMD. During inspections of declared or undeclared facilities, inspection teams have examined building structures for any possible underground facilities. In addition, ground penetrating radar equipment was used in several specific locations. No underground facilities for chemical or biological production or storage were found so far.

I should add that, both for the monitoring of ground transportation and for the inspection of underground facilities, we would need to increase our staff in Iraq. I am not talking about a doubling of the staff. I would rather have twice the amount of high quality information about sites to inspect than twice the number of expert inspectors to send.


Recent developments

On 14 February, I reported to the Council that the Iraqi side had become more active in taking and proposing steps, which potentially might shed new light on unresolved disarmament issues. Even a week ago, when the current quarterly report was finalized, there was still relatively little tangible progress to note. Hence, the cautious formulations in the report before you.

As of today, there is more. While during our meetings in Baghdad, the Iraqi side tried to persuade us that the Al Samoud 2 missiles they have declared fall within the permissible range set by the Security Council, the calculations of an international panel of experts led us to the opposite conclusion. Iraq has since accepted that these missiles and associated items be destroyed and has started the process of destruction under our supervision. The destruction undertaken constitutes a substantial measure of disarmament – indeed, the first since the middle of the 1990s. We are not watching the breaking of toothpicks. Lethal weapons are being destroyed. However, I must add that no destruction has happened today. I hope it’s a temporary break.

To date, 34 Al Samoud 2 missiles, including 4 training missiles, 2 combat warheads, 1 launcher and 5 engines have been destroyed under UNMOVIC supervision. Work is continuing to identify and inventory the parts and equipment associated with the Al Samoud 2 programme.

Two ‘reconstituted’ casting chambers used in the production of solid propellant missiles have been destroyed and the remnants melted or encased in concrete.

The legality of the Al Fatah missile is still under review, pending further investigation and measurement of various parameters of that missile.

More papers on anthrax, VX and missiles have recently been provided. Many have been found to restate what Iraq had already declared, some will require further study and discussion.

There is a significant Iraqi effort underway to clarify a major source of uncertainty as to the quantities of biological and chemical weapons, which were unilaterally destroyed in 1991. A part of this effort concerns a disposal site, which was deemed too dangerous for full investigation in the past. It is now being re-excavated. To date, Iraq has unearthed eight complete bombs comprising two liquid-filled intact R-400 bombs and six other complete bombs. Bomb fragments were also found. Samples have been taken. The investigation of the destruction site could, in the best case, allow the determination of the number of bombs destroyed at that site. It should be followed by a serious and credible effort to determine the separate issue of how many R-400 type bombs were produced. In this, as in other matters, inspection work is moving on and may yield results.

Iraq proposed an investigation using advanced technology to quantify the amount of unilaterally destroyed anthrax dumped at a site. However, even if the use of advanced technology could quantify the amount of anthrax, said to be dumped at the site, the results would still be open to interpretation. Defining the quantity of anthrax destroyed must, of course, be followed by efforts to establish what quantity was actually produced.

With respect to VX, Iraq has recently suggested a similar method to quantify a VX precursor stated to have been unilaterally destroyed in the summer of 1991.

Iraq has also recently informed us that, following the adoption of the presidential decree prohibiting private individuals and mixed companies from engaging in work related to WMD, further legislation on the subject is to be enacted. This appears to be in response to a letter from UNMOVIC requesting clarification of the issue.

What are we to make of these activities? One can hardly avoid the impression that, after a period of somewhat reluctant cooperation, there has been an acceleration of initiatives from the Iraqi side since the end of January.

This is welcome, but the value of these measures must be soberly judged by how many question marks they actually succeed in straightening out. This is not yet clear.

Against this background, the question is now asked whether Iraq has cooperated “immediately, unconditionally and actively” with UNMOVIC, as required under paragraph 9 of resolution 1441 (2002). The answers can be seen from the factual descriptions I have provided. However, if more direct answers are desired, I would say the following:

The Iraqi side has tried on occasion to attach conditions, as it did regarding helicopters and U-2 planes. Iraq has not, however, so far persisted in these or other conditions for the exercise of any of our inspection rights. If it did, we would report it.

It is obvious that, while the numerous initiatives, which are now taken by the Iraqi side with a view to resolving some long-standing open disarmament issues, can be seen as “active”, or even “proactive”, these initiatives 3-4 months into the new resolution cannot be said to constitute “immediate” cooperation. Nor do they necessarily cover all areas of relevance. They are nevertheless welcome and UNMOVIC is responding to them in the hope of solving presently unresolved disarmament issues.


Mr. President,

Members of the Council may relate most of what I have said to resolution 1441 (2002), but UNMOVIC is performing work under several resolutions of the Security Council. The quarterly report before you is submittedin accordance with resolution 1284 (1999), which not only created UNMOVIC but also continues to guide much of our work. Under the time lines set by the resolution, the results of some of this work is to be reported to the Council before the end of this month. Let me be more specific.

Resolution 1284 (1999) instructs UNMOVIC to “address unresolved disarmament issues” and to identify “key remaining disarmament tasks” and the latter are to be submitted for approval by the Council in the context of a work programme. UNMOVIC will be ready to submit a draft work programme this month as required.

UNSCOM and the Amorim Panel did valuable work to identify the disarmament issues, which were still open at the end of 1998. UNMOVIC has used this material as starting points but analysed the data behind it and data and documents post 1998 up to the present time to compile its own list of “unresolved disarmament issues” or, rather, clustered issues. It is the answers to these issues which we seek through our inspection activities.

It is from the list of these clustered issues that UNMOVIC will identify the “key remainingdisarmament tasks”. As noted in the report before you, this list of clustered issues is ready.

UNMOVIC is only required to submit the work programme with the “key remaining disarmament tasks” to the Council. As I understand that several Council members are interested in the working document with the complete clusters of disarmament issues, we have declassified it and are ready to make it available to members of the Council on request. In this working document, which may still be adjusted in the light of new information, members will get a more up-to-date review of the outstanding issues than in the documents of 1999, which members usually refer to. Each cluster in the working document ends with a number of points indicating what Iraq could do to solve the issue. Hence, Iraq’s cooperation could be measured against the successful resolution of issues.

I should note that the working document contains much information and discussion about the issues which existed at the end of 1998 – including information which has come to light after 1998. It contains much less information and discussion about the period after 1998, primarily because of paucity of information. Nevertheless, intelligence agencies have expressed the view that proscribed programmes have continued or restarted in this period. It is further contended that proscribed programmes and items are located in underground facilities, as I mentioned, and that proscribed items are being moved around Iraq. The working document contains some suggestions on how these concerns may be tackled.

Mr. President,

Let me conclude by telling you that UNMOVIC is currently drafting the work programme, which resolution 1284 (1999) requires us to submit this month. It will obviously contain our proposed list of key remaining disarmament tasks; it will describe the reinforced system of ongoing monitoring and verification that the Council has asked us to implement; it will also describe the various subsystems which constitute the programme, e.g. for aerial surveillance, for information from governments and suppliers, for sampling, for the checking of road traffic, etc.

How much time would it take to resolve the key remaining disarmament tasks? While cooperation can and is to be immediate, disarmament and at any rate the verification of it cannot be instant. Even with a proactive Iraqi attitude, induced by continued outside pressure, it would still take some time to verify sites and items, analyse documents, interview relevant persons, and draw conclusions. It would not take years, nor weeks, but months. Neither governments nor inspectors would want disarmament inspection to go on forever. However, it must be remembered that in accordance with the governing resolutions, a sustained inspection and monitoring system is to remain in place after verified disarmament to give confidence and to strike an alarm, if signs were seen of the revival of any proscribed weapons programmes.

www.un.org/depts/unmovic/SC7asdelivered.htm (external - login to view)
 
CDNBear
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#110
Quote: Originally Posted by earth_as_oneView Post

This UNMOVIC report delivered just a few weeks before the US invasion reveals that Iraq was known not to be a WMD threat before the invasion:

Do we really want to get into a comparison of reports from the UN that have turned out to be erroneous?
 
petros
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#111
Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBearView Post

I'm waiting for 2012(FIFY) to cash in on nutters breaking the bank on survival gear.

Why wait? Sell survival gear or better yet offer survival training to the nutters.

There is a fortune to be made.
 
CDNBear
#112
Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

Why wait? Sell survival gear or better yet offer survival training to the nutters.

There is a fortune to be made.

1012, lol. I missed that typo, thanx.

I'm waiting for them to figure out they'll owe thousands, the day after, and need to unload all that expensive gear.

I'm biding my time, lol. I'm eying up a sweet geneset, I bet I can get for half price.
 
petros
#113
A genny? How many watts are you looking for?

I wonder what they would pay for free range organic beans?
 
CDNBear
#114
Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

A genny? How many watts are you looking for?

20,000 3 phase.

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I wonder what they would pay for free range organic beans?

LOL.
 
Goober
#115
Quote: Originally Posted by earth_as_oneView Post



Security Council 7 March 2003 (external - login to view)

Quote: Originally Posted by earth_as_one
So why haven't the criminally incompetent been charged with dragging the US into an unfounded war with Iraq? A big clue has to to with how much money Bush and Cheney's oil buddies made off that war over the dead bodies of thousands of US service men and women and hundreds of thousands of dead Iraqis.

The most likely answer is that the people at the top knew Iraq didn't have WMDS. But they figured that by the time Americans and people like yourself figured out they had been fooled they wouldn't care.

Here is Iran's official policy regarding nuclear weapons, the NPT and the IAEA:
International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) :: IAEA and Iran


My point
There is no sense in discussing things with you - You are nothing but a minor Chamberlain.
 
Goober
#116
Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBearView Post

Do we really want to get into a comparison of reports from the UN that have turned out to be erroneous?


No sense in that.

Go to about the 7 minute mark -

http://www.cbc.ca/video/#/Radio/1447.../ID=2198344533
Update on the Iranians arrested in Thailand

BBC News - Thai police seek two more suspects over blasts (external - login to view)

Police in Thailand say they are seeking two more suspects in connection with a bomb plot believed to have been targeting Israeli diplomats.

One of the two men is believed to be a bomb-making expert who trained the three Iranian men detained after the explosions in Bangkok on Tuesday.

The other is a man who rented the house the suspects were living in with an Iranian woman, police told the BBC.

They are also looking for the woman, who is believed to have left Thailand.

Two men are in custody in Bangkok over Tuesday's explosions and a third man was arrested in Malaysia trying to board a flight to Iran.
Last edited by Goober; Feb 19th, 2012 at 08:47 PM..
 
Goober
#117
Both sides are posturing

http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/02...nuclear-sites/
 
MHz
#118
Quote: Originally Posted by GooberView Post

Quote: Originally Posted by earth_as_one
So why haven't the criminally incompetent been charged with dragging the US into an unfounded war with Iraq? A big clue has to to with how much money Bush and Cheney's oil buddies made off that war over the dead bodies of thousands of US service men and women and hundreds of thousands of dead Iraqis.

The most likely answer is that the people at the top knew Iraq didn't have WMDS. But they figured that by the time Americans and people like yourself figured out they had been fooled they wouldn't care.

The desire to reveal the lie was overridden by the 'promise' that gas wouldn't take the $2 jump that it would without the invasion and conquest, not a peep of complaint after that sop don't sell the American people as being duped so bad they never caught on.

Even Mike R used to ramble on about the invasion and how it could only be turned around with a election and then the withdraw would happen. Well that didn't work and they the time the 2nd election came around getting out of Iraq want on the agenda anymore. Apparently the issue wasn't that big if complaints are only temporary.

Quote: Originally Posted by GooberView Post

No sense in that.

Go to about the 7 minute mark -

CBC.ca Player
Update on the Iranians arrested in Thailand

BBC News - Thai police seek two more suspects over blasts (external - login to view)

Police in Thailand say they are seeking two more suspects in connection with a bomb plot believed to have been targeting Israeli diplomats.

One of the two men is believed to be a bomb-making expert who trained the three Iranian men detained after the explosions in Bangkok on Tuesday.

The other is a man who rented the house the suspects were living in with an Iranian woman, police told the BBC.

They are also looking for the woman, who is believed to have left Thailand.

Two men are in custody in Bangkok over Tuesday's explosions and a third man was arrested in Malaysia trying to board a flight to Iran.

The Police should post the pics of everybody who came in and out of the house as it was under surveillance and that part was never explained. The explosion at the house wasn't an accident, the operation was at an end and the house was blown up to destroy evidence. If they were all from Iran the training should have taken place in Iran, rather than at the target location.
 
Goober
#119
Quote: Originally Posted by MHzView Post

The desire to reveal the lie was overridden by the 'promise' that gas wouldn't take the $2 jump that it would without the invasion and conquest, not a peep of complaint after that sop don't sell the American people as being duped so bad they never caught on.

Even Mike R used to ramble on about the invasion and how it could only be turned around with a election and then the withdraw would happen. Well that didn't work and they the time the 2nd election came around getting out of Iraq want on the agenda anymore. Apparently the issue wasn't that big if complaints are only temporary.


The Police should post the pics of everybody who came in and out of the house as it was under surveillance and that part was never explained. The explosion at the house wasn't an accident, the operation was at an end and the house was blown up to destroy evidence. If they were all from Iran the training should have taken place in Iran, rather than at the target location.

They do not have to put many boots on the ground to take out priority targets - their naval if you wish to call them that are most fast attack craft loaded and driven by those wishing to see Allah. I am sure the US Navy and Air Force would help them in their mission statement. The US can also send Iran back 30 years - You know it, I know it.
All of the people in Iran know it.

Each side keeps on dancing. posturing. Iran has not been forthcoming with the IAEA.

Problem is with tensions rising - who knows if some Rev guard has his own Religious or political statement to make. Then we have a war. From rising tensions, mistakes happen.
Note - Did you listen to the CBC radio program I posted in the thread?
 
MHz
#120
Quote: Originally Posted by GooberView Post

They do not have to put many boots on the ground to take out priority targets - their naval if you wish to call them that are most fast attack craft loaded and driven by those wishing to see Allah. I am sure the US Navy and Air Force would help them in their mission statement. The US can also send Iran back 30 years - You know it, I know it.
All of the people in Iran know it.

Each side keeps on dancing. posturing. Iran has not been forthcoming with the IAEA.

Problem is with tensions rising - who knows if some Rev guard has his own Religious or political statement to make. Then we have a war. From rising tensions, mistakes happen.
Note - Did you listen to the CBC radio program I posted in the thread?

I'm not part of their defensive council but rather than hi-sped boats (really a river boat) and a crew why wouldn't they have the crew stay on land and drive it by remote control. If I was the US navy I would be more concerned with supersonic cruise missiles and torpedoes that travel at 200MPH. So while the 'Enterprise' may be the 'bait' it sure would suck to have to phone home and report all ships in the area have been seriously damaged and the US Navy is a thing only history books can find.
BTW the IAEA is Iran at the moment so your report is bogus.

No I didn't but I will try and find it now.
 

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