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Got $2,200? In this world, you're rich

The research indicates that assets of just $2,200 per adult place a household in the top half of the world's wealthiest. To be among the richest 10% of adults in the world, just $61,000 in assets is needed. If you have more than $500,000, you're part of the richest 1%, the United Nations study says. Indeed, 37 million people now belong in that category.


A global study reveals an overwhelming wealth gap, with the world's three richest people having more money than the poorest 48 nations combined.

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By MarketWatch The richest 2% of the world's population owns more than half of the world's household wealth.
You may believe you've heard this statistic before, but you haven't: For the first time, personal wealth -- not income -- has been measured around the world. The findings may be surprising, for what makes people "wealthy" across the world spectrum is a relatively low bar.

The research indicates that assets of just $2,200 per adult place a household in the top half of the world's wealthiest. To be among the richest 10% of adults in the world, just $61,000 in assets is needed. If you have more than $500,000, you're part of the richest 1%, the United Nations study says. Indeed, 37 million people now belong in that category. Half live on less than $2 a day

Sure, you can now be proud that you're rich. But take a moment to think about it, and you'll probably come to realize that the meaning behind these numbers is harrowing. For if it takes just a couple of thousand dollars to qualify as rich in this world, imagine what it means to be poor.
Half the world, nearly 3 billion people, live on less than $2 a day. The three richest people in the world –- Microsoft Chairman Bill Gates, investor Warren Buffett and Mexican telecom mogul Carlos Slim Helú -- have more money than the poorest 48 nations combined.
Even relatively developed nations have low thresholds of per person capital. For example, people in India have per capita assets of $1,100. In Indonesia, capital amounts to $1,400 per person.
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The study's authors defined net worth as the value of people's physical and financial assets, less debts.
"In this respect, wealth represents the ownership of capital," the authors say. "Although capital is only one part of personal resources, it is widely believed to have a disproportionate impact on household well-being and economic success, and more broadly on economic development and growth."
That said, it's interesting to look at how those at different economic levels manage their capital.
Property, particularly land and farm assets, are more important in less developed countries because of the greater importance of agriculture and because financial institutions are immature.
The study also reveals the differences in the types of financial assets owned. Savings accounts are strongly featured in transition economies and some rich Asian countries, while stock and other types of financial products are more commonplace in Western nations.

The authors say there is a stronger preference for saving and liquidity in Asian countries because of lack of confidence in financial markets. That isn't so much the case in the United States and the United Kingdom, which have private pensions and more-developed financial markets, they say. High incomes, negative net worth

Surprisingly, household debt is relatively unimportant in poor countries because, the study says, "while many poor people in poor countries are in debt, their debts are relatively small in total. This is mainly due to the absence of financial institutions that allow households to incur large mortgage and consumer debts, as is increasingly the situation in rich countries"
Meanwhile, "many people in high-income countries have negative net worth and -- somewhat paradoxically -- are among the poorest people in the world in terms of household wealth."
But let's not feel too bad about ourselves, even if we do have a negative savings rate. The average wealth in the United States is $144,000 per person. In Japan, it's $181,000. Overall, wealth is mostly concentrated in North America, Europe and high-income Asia-Pacific countries. People in these countries collectively hold almost 90% of total world wealth.
The world's total wealth is valuated at $125 trillion. Although North America has only 6% of the world's adult population, it accounts for 34% of household wealth.
So be grateful for where you live in the world; it directly correlates to how much you have. But don't bask in superiority: The fastest-growing population of wealthy people is in China.
Look out when this population transitions from saving to spending. It's going to dramatically change the composition of the world economy, and it may just help prevent the world from becoming more of an plutocracy than it already is.
This article was reported and written by Thomas Kostigen for MarketWatch.
 

Karlin

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and so what jim, you think this is good news? That the gated communities and bars on the windows to keep out the poor people, and millions of 'starving-people-amidst-plenty' are just good fun? Or that it is olay for one person to have enough to live well for 10 lifetimes while others work just as hard and get barely enough to live on? Or that this wealth gap is getting worse by the day?
 

jimmoyer

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Arrrrrrgh ~!!!
In some other thread you responded to one of my posts saying it lied in the realm of fairy tales,
the Easter Bunny and Santa Claus.

Look, just leave Santa Claus out of it okay ? I got in trouble in First grade defending his honor,
and I just don't need that kind of ag right now. I'll get back to you on that other stuff about
wealth, comparisons and other assorted folklore.

:)

Have a good weekend everybody.
 

#juan

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Well, given what the real estate people tell me our house is worth, plus our other property, and cars, and savings, I think we can squeeze into that top 1 percent. That and about five bucks gets me a coffee at one of the designer coffee boutiques:). On the other hand, I worked pretty hard to get what I've got. I guess I should be thankful I live in a country where a a fairly ordinary person can do what I did.
 

Andem

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Well, given what the real estate people tell me our house is worth, plus our other property, and cars, and savings, I think we can squeeze into that top 1 percent. That and about five bucks gets me a coffee at one of the designer coffee boutiques:). On the other hand, I worked pretty hard to get what I've got. I guess I should be thankful I live in a country where a a fairly ordinary person can do what I did.

You're also from the civilised world and enjoy the fruits accomplished by your ancestors. It's really not YOUR fault that Western people have invented almost everything and developed civlisations. We are "rich" because we're resourceful.
 

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I'll make no apologies for having money, I've earned every penny and then some. :evil3:
 

Andem

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I'll make no apologies for having money, I've earned every penny and then some. :evil3:

It's good. Some on the far-left will go at anything to promote self-hatred of Western peoples; specifically those of European stock. The Canadian government has gone as far as promoting racism in hiring against white people.. the people who are responsible for the existance of that very government and country!

Now they're conveying the message that you should feel sorry because you live a comfortable, well-earned life while most of the world who hasn't developed past living in everlasting civil wars and mudhuts can't get their acts together. I can't wait until I hear the end of this one.
 

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I agree Andem, but Canada doesn't discriminate against whites that can speak French-remember Quebecers have most of the good Federal Jobs. We in the west have nothing to be ashamed of however the ME and the Horn of Africa are a simmering pool of hatred and we are not at fault for the poverty, slaughter, hunger or cruelty going on in these places their "Leaders" are to blame. Greedy filthy buggers like to point the finger at the west but the truth is they use Islam to keep the people poor, hungry, angry mean and violent. What are we in the west expected to do? We give aide and it ends up in the hands of Terrorist and War Lords, do I feel for those whom suffer YES but until the world decides what is more important people or OIl Barrons there's nothing I can do but make money and prosper.

Andem did you know that most new immigrants to Nove Scotia are from Germany? It's true, many NS's have German in their blood so we welcome them as new comers. The only words I know in German are Bon Bon, Oma and Opa.
 

#juan

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You're also from the civilised world and enjoy the fruits accomplished by your ancestors. It's really not YOUR fault that Western people have invented almost everything and developed civlisations. We are "rich" because we're resourceful.

It's true isn't it? Though "rich" is a relative thing, we, in the west, for the most part, are taught that if we get an education, and work hard, we can have the things our parents had, and more. I didn't inherit much since I had eight sibblings, but I never doubted that I would eventually have a comfortable life and retirement. My biggest joy is watching my kids succeed better than I did.
 

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I agree Andem, but Canada doesn't discriminate against whites that can speak French-remember Quebecers have most of the good Federal Jobs. We in the west have nothing to be ashamed of however the ME and the Horn of Africa are a simmering pool of hatred and we are not at fault for the poverty, slaughter, hunger or cruelty going on in these places their "Leaders" are to blame. Greedy filthy buggers like to point the finger at the west but the truth is they use Islam to keep the people poor, hungry, angry mean and violent. What are we in the west expected to do? We give aide and it ends up in the hands of Terrorist and War Lords, do I feel for those whom suffer YES but until the world decides what is more important people or OIl Barrons there's nothing I can do but make money and prosper.

Andem did you know that most new immigrants to Nove Scotia are from Germany? It's true, many NS's have German in their blood so we welcome them as new comers. The only words I know in German are Bon Bon, Oma and Opa.

I agree that Africa and the Middle East are simmering in hatred for the West.. there's nothing from there that would ever indicate otherwise and to be quite frank, I would sleep much better at night if all immigration from those regions were halted. They really do hate us, and it's not a figment of my imagination nor is it just a careless generalisation: The race-on-race crime (and especially violent crime) statistics paint a very valid picture.

I'm happy that Nova Scotia is open arms to Germans and other Europeans, but the Government of Canada and more specifically, Immigration Canada has a very different policy. Remember this: It's much easier for someone from the Third World to get permenant residence status and subsequent citizenship than it is for anybody of European-descent post-1990. A quote from a friend "A Canadian passport is nothing more these days than a prize from a cracker-jack box"... I can't agree more :(

Equal rights has never existed in Canada.. the rights merely shifted to those who were easily swayed by shifty immigration laws; family unification, anyone? "Lets invite my 60 cousins and 15 brothers with their multiple wives and their families over!"

PS. Non-white Quebecers get special treatment over white Quebecers.
 

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I agree that Africa and the Middle East are simmering in hatred for the West.. there's nothing from there that would ever indicate otherwise and to be quite frank, I would sleep much better at night if all immigration from those regions were halted. They really do hate us, and it's not a figment of my imagination nor is it just a careless generalisation: The race-on-race crime (and especially violent crime) statistics paint a very valid picture.

I'm happy that Nova Scotia is open arms to Germans and other Europeans, but the Government of Canada and more specifically, Immigration Canada has a very different policy. Remember this: It's much easier for someone from the Third World to get permenant residence status and subsequent citizenship than it is for anybody of European-descent post-1990. A quote from a friend "A Canadian passport is nothing more these days than a prize from a cracker-jack box"... I can't agree more :(

Equal rights has never existed in Canada.. the rights merely shifted to those who were easily swayed by shifty immigration laws; family unification, anyone? "Lets invite my 60 cousins and 15 brothers with their multiple wives and their families over!"

PS. Non-white Quebecers get special treatment over white Quebecers.


When I read news articles from Europe it scares me that those whom immigrated to the EU refuse to become part of those countries. I read one article that stated Germans are leaving Germany at alarming speed because the country is bending over backwards to accommadate Islamic Immigrants. It's the same for Belgium, England, Italy, choke France. In ten years Muslims will out number any other culture in Europe, so what readers may say well have a gander at Lebanon that will become Europe if something isn't done to stop the spread of Radical Islam and pandering to the ever persistant whining of the moderates. We need to consider a complete halt to accepting immigrants who can't be Canadian/European first and Islamic second. I don't care what anyone calls me anymore because I've seen what the Muslims do one baby step at a time at forcing their Religion on other cultures. If we need to stop allowing Immigrants from Islamic country that is fine by me, Canada was founded on the basis of Christianity and most of the immigrants that came from Europe have been the "Best" we could hope for they-- build strong ties in the communities the live in. In essense they become Canadian, their relgion is a mute point because it shouldn't matter to one's loyalty to their adopted country. I for one would gladly have Canada open our doors wider to Europeans, they have proven they are wonderful Immigrants.
 

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Got $2,200? In this world, you're rich

The research indicates that assets of just $2,200 per adult place a household in the top half of the world's wealthiest. To be among the richest 10% of adults in the world, just $61,000 in assets is needed. If you have more than $500,000, you're part of the richest 1%, the United Nations study says. Indeed, 37 million people now belong in that category.

Wow, even as a relatively young adult, I'm in the top half of the world's richest, and not too far off the top 10% mark. I guess I'm just really lucky that I live in a priviledged country like Canada. What this tells me is I should really give even more to help the poor in the world who are not as lucky as me. Of course I work very, very hard for my money, but that doesn't mean I can't or shouldn't help others.

We in the west have nothing to be ashamed of however the ME and the Horn of Africa are a simmering pool of hatred and we are not at fault for the poverty, slaughter, hunger or cruelty going on in these places their "Leaders" are to blame. Greedy filthy buggers like to point the finger at the west but the truth is they use Islam to keep the people poor, hungry, angry mean and violent. What are we in the west expected to do? We give aide and it ends up in the hands of Terrorist and War Lords, do I feel for those whom suffer YES but until the world decides what is more important people or OIl Barrons there's nothing I can do but make money and prosper.

I agree that I'm not directly at fault for others being poor. But does that mean we shouldn't give money to the poor? It's not their fault that they are poor. I doubt anyone wants to be poor. There are things you can do though, you can give money to the poor. It might not change the world, but it will make a small but noticeable difference.

I agree that Africa and the Middle East are simmering in hatred for the West.. there's nothing from there that would ever indicate otherwise and to be quite frank, I would sleep much better at night if all immigration from those regions were halted. They really do hate us, and it's not a figment of my imagination nor is it just a careless generalisation: The race-on-race crime (and especially violent crime) statistics paint a very valid picture.

A small percentage of them, yes. Does that mean we should discriminate against those who do not hate the west? I would say no. Why should someone be discriminated against just because they happen to be from the same country as an intolerant fool?
 

Dexter Sinister

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Wow, I'm fabulously wealthy.

I suppose I knew that though. Compared to most people at most times and places in history, my life has been one of truly extraordinary privilege and comfort. An accident of birth, mostly: I was born a member of the dominant majority in a wealthy and civilized western democracy in the middle of the 20th century. I can take credit for making something of it--some people don't, and I see them on the streets of my home city every day--but from the moment of birth I had every conceivable advantage.

Yes, I'm grateful. And I try to give some of it back. So should we all.
 

I think not

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Personally I'm filthy rich, everyone I care about is mentally and physically healthy.

I earn enough to have whatever I want, but I don't go overboard either.

I know I am more fortunate than most and I try whenever I can to give something to the community.

Merry Christmas. :wave:
 

s_lone

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2 200$ is approximately what I've had for the last couple of months and I do consider myself very rich as a human being... (I have no debts whatsoever). According to our society's standards, I am poor... Je suis sous le seuil de pauvreté...

I live simply and while I absolutely want to improve my situation I live a very comfortable life and am one of the luckiest persons in this world.
 

Andem

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A small percentage of them, yes. Does that mean we should discriminate against those who do not hate the west? I would say no. Why should someone be discriminated against just because they happen to be from the same country as an intolerant fool?

A small percentage? They must be a pretty large small percentage, because I rarely hear anything from the majority.
 

jimmoyer

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Got $2,200? In this world, you're rich

The research indicates that assets of just $2,200 per adult place a household in the top half of the world's wealthiest. To be among the richest 10% of adults in the world, just $61,000 in assets is needed. If you have more than $500,000, you're part of the richest 1%, the United Nations study says. Indeed, 37 million people now belong in that category.


A global study reveals an overwhelming wealth gap, with the world's three richest people having more money than the poorest 48 nations combined.

Latest Market Update

December 15, 2006 -- 14:25 ET [BRIEFING.COM] The market has shown an aversion to red figures as the S&P 500, which touched the unchanged mark in the past hour, caught a modest bid before turning negative. Accordingly, plus signs remain for all of the major indices which... More


By MarketWatch The richest 2% of the world's population owns more than half of the world's household wealth.

You may believe you've heard this statistic before, but you haven't: For the first time, personal wealth -- not income -- has been measured around the world. The findings may be surprising, for what makes people "wealthy" across the world spectrum is a relatively low bar.

The research indicates that assets of just $2,200 per adult place a household in the top half of the world's wealthiest. To be among the richest 10% of adults in the world, just $61,000 in assets is needed. If you have more than $500,000, you're part of the richest 1%, the United Nations study says. Indeed, 37 million people now belong in that category. Half live on less than $2 a day

Sure, you can now be proud that you're rich. But take a moment to think about it, and you'll probably come to realize that the meaning behind these numbers is harrowing. For if it takes just a couple of thousand dollars to qualify as rich in this world, imagine what it means to be poor.
Half the world, nearly 3 billion people, live on less than $2 a day. The three richest people in the world –- Microsoft Chairman Bill Gates, investor Warren Buffett and Mexican telecom mogul Carlos Slim Helú -- have more money than the poorest 48 nations combined.

Even relatively developed nations have low thresholds of per person capital. For example, people in India have per capita assets of $1,100. In Indonesia, capital amounts to $1,400 per person.


The study's authors defined net worth as the value of people's physical and financial assets, less debts.
"In this respect, wealth represents the ownership of capital," the authors say. "Although capital is only one part of personal resources, it is widely believed to have a disproportionate impact on household well-being and economic success, and more broadly on economic development and growth."

That said, it's interesting to look at how those at different economic levels manage their capital.
Property, particularly land and farm assets, are more important in less developed countries because of the greater importance of agriculture and because financial institutions are immature.

The study also reveals the differences in the types of financial assets owned. Savings accounts are strongly featured in transition economies and some rich Asian countries, while stock and other types of financial products are more commonplace in Western nations.

The authors say there is a stronger preference for saving and liquidity in Asian countries because of lack of confidence in financial markets. That isn't so much the case in the United States and the United Kingdom, which have private pensions and more-developed financial markets, they say. High incomes, negative net worth

Surprisingly, household debt is relatively unimportant in poor countries because, the study says, "while many poor people in poor countries are in debt, their debts are relatively small in total. This is mainly due to the absence of financial institutions that allow households to incur large mortgage and consumer debts, as is increasingly the situation in rich countries"

Meanwhile, "many people in high-income countries have negative net worth and -- somewhat paradoxically -- are among the poorest people in the world in terms of household wealth."
But let's not feel too bad about ourselves, even if we do have a negative savings rate. The average wealth in the United States is $144,000 per person. In Japan, it's $181,000. Overall, wealth is mostly concentrated in North America, Europe and high-income Asia-Pacific countries. People in these countries collectively hold almost 90% of total world wealth.

The world's total wealth is valuated at $125 trillion. Although North America has only 6% of the world's adult population, it accounts for 34% of household wealth.

So be grateful for where you live in the world; it directly correlates to how much you have. But don't bask in superiority: The fastest-growing population of wealthy people is in China.

Look out when this population transitions from saving to spending. It's going to dramatically change the composition of the world economy, and it may just help prevent the world from becoming more of an plutocracy than it already is.

This article was reported and written by Thomas Kostigen for MarketWatch.