Caleb-Dain Matton said:In light of all the so-called terrorist activities around the globe, let's examine the Empire.
Caleb-Dain Matton said:"How to shut the right-wingers up"
Caleb-Dain Matton said:Public records show that the US had tried unsuccessfully many assassination attempts on Castro...isn't this terrorism?
It instigated the failed Bay of Pigs on Cuba... isn't this terrorism?
It unleashed genocidal use of smallpox against Native Americans in 19th century...isn't this terrorism?
Admiral Nimitz and the Chiefs of Staff approved poison gas during the invasion of Iwo Jima in 1943...isn't this terrorism?
The US government underwent the most massive chemical war in Indochina, unleashing Agent Orange on Vietnamese peasants in the 1960s...isn't this terrorism?
US soldiers murdered countless peasants in what is now known as the Mail Lai Massacre (1970?)...isn't this terrorism?
The CIA spread anthrax over Zimbabwe from 1978 to 1980...isn't this terrorism?
Cuba suffered a chemical-biological warfare attack in 1981 at the hands of the US which resulted in mass dengue fever and the killing of half a million pigs...isn't this terrorism?
This is just a sample.
Also, there were interesting reports that if you calculated all the civilian deaths attributed to all the instances in countries where the U.S. played a role, the total of dead civilians was around 8 million (including Hiroshima and Nagasaki).
I am curious if those who answered "no" did so because the American elite is white. I can find no other reason behind this, since facts are facts.
We can let America off the hook for that one at least. It was the British, in the 18th century, before 1776, and it's not clear that it ever actually happened. http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a5_066.htmlCaleb-Dain Matton said:It unleashed genocidal use of smallpox against Native Americans in 19th century...
feronia said:Can we replace it with the Trail of Tears?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trail_of_Tears
thomaska said:Caleb-Dain Matton said:Public records show that the US had tried unsuccessfully many assassination attempts on Castro...isn't this terrorism?
It instigated the failed Bay of Pigs on Cuba... isn't this terrorism?
It unleashed genocidal use of smallpox against Native Americans in 19th century...isn't this terrorism?
Admiral Nimitz and the Chiefs of Staff approved poison gas during the invasion of Iwo Jima in 1943...isn't this terrorism?
The US government underwent the most massive chemical war in Indochina, unleashing Agent Orange on Vietnamese peasants in the 1960s...isn't this terrorism?
US soldiers murdered countless peasants in what is now known as the Mail Lai Massacre (1970?)...isn't this terrorism?
The CIA spread anthrax over Zimbabwe from 1978 to 1980...isn't this terrorism?
Cuba suffered a chemical-biological warfare attack in 1981 at the hands of the US which resulted in mass dengue fever and the killing of half a million pigs...isn't this terrorism?
This is just a sample.
Also, there were interesting reports that if you calculated all the civilian deaths attributed to all the instances in countries where the U.S. played a role, the total of dead civilians was around 8 million (including Hiroshima and Nagasaki).
I am curious if those who answered "no" did so because the American elite is white. I can find no other reason behind this, since facts are facts.
Half a million pigs? :lol:
Peasants? Feeling a little superior are we?
Your arguement (attacking ideas, not people, don't want to get banned again...)is pathetic. You can hate the U.S. all you want but the fact remains that your arguements are insignificant, and will never change anything, and I take pleasure from watching your flailing, arm-waving hysterics. Don't worry, I'll never trouble your threads again, its not worth it. Anyone who can ignore all the good things the U.S. has done for the last 200+ years and can only manage to drudge up incidents that the appeasement crowd, self-hating americans and self-hating whites hold onto as if they were gospel, isn't worth reading or responding to. Good bye Aeon,...oops I mean Caleb.
SEC. 308. APPLICABILITY TO LAWFUL UNITED STATES INTELLIGENCE ACTIVITIES OF FEDERAL LAWS IMPLEMENTING INTERNATIONAL TREATIES AND AGREEMENTS.
(a) IN GENERAL- The National Security Act of 1947 (50 U.S.C. 401 et seq.) is amended by adding at the end the following new title:
`TITLE X--ADDITIONAL MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS
`APPLICABILITY TO UNITED STATES INTELLIGENCE ACTIVITIES OF FEDERAL LAWS IMPLEMENTING INTERNATIONAL TREATIES AND AGREEMENTS
`SEC. 1001. (a) IN GENERAL- No Federal law enacted on or after the date of the enactment of the Intelligence Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2001 that implements a treaty or other international agreement shall be construed as making unlawful an otherwise lawful and authorized intelligence activity of the United States Government or its employees, or any other person to the extent such other person is carrying out such activity on behalf of, and at the direction of, the United States, unless such Federal law specifically addresses such intelligence activity.
`(b) AUTHORIZED INTELLIGENCE ACTIVITIES- An intelligence activity shall be treated as authorized for purposes of subsection (a) if the intelligence activity is authorized by an appropriate official of the United States Government, acting within the scope of the official duties of that official and in compliance with Federal law and any applicable Presidential directive.'.
(b) CLERICAL AMENDMENT- The table of contents for the National Security Act of 1947 is amended by inserting at the end the following new items:
`TITLE X--ADDITIONAL MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS
`Sec. 1001. Applicability to United States intelligence activities of Federal laws implementing international treaties and agreements.'.
I think not said:feronia said:Can we replace it with the Trail of Tears?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trail_of_Tears
That is a great book, have you read it?
EastSideScotian said:Now the points where people are calling The USA terrorist from past history, they just dont stand, Differant Leaders Differant poeple differant way of life.
Today if you wantto argue that the USA are a Terrorist Nation, you can try but, there is also little to confirm this idea. The USA is Globaly taking action on Countries it feels are a threat to its secutity, usally countries that harbour terrorist. Now some of the, ill say less infromed people will say, oh well by them starting wars in Middle-eastern and Asain Countries, they have become terrorist. Not so, they have done this the Buracratic way, war has explostions and death and all of that stuff, as does terrorism, but it is they way it is carried out and the meaning behind it. A platoon of soldiers are trained to kill the enemy, sometimes a citiven will die, but thats how it is with war, and that needs to be excepted. Terrorism is based on kiling anything civilains usally specifily. The americans do not purposely blow up large buildings filled with thousands of run of the mill humans. The Americans dont Hijack airplanes and crash them. The Americans dont go into embassys and hold the diplomats hostage. Americans use Conventional warfare. Terrorist use any means nessasary.
The Americans could do horrible things at times, but they arent Terrorist in anyway.