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JERUSALEM (AP) - Israel on Tuesday stood by its new policy of firing artillery shells at Palestinian rocket squads operating from populated areas in Gaza, even after a round killed an 8-year-old Palestinian girl.

The Israeli military intensified its offensive against Palestinian rocket fire after the Hamas militant group took charge of the Palestinian Authority two weeks ago.

In a major policy shift, it has allowed guns to fire close enough to hit populated areas. That change claimed the life of 8-year-old Hadil Ghaben on Monday, after two shells blew huge holes in a concrete block house in Beit Lahiya in the northern Gaza Strip. The girl's mother and seven siblings were hurt in the attack.

Defence Minister Shaul Mofaz said Tuesday that "as long as it's not quiet here (in Israel), it won't be quiet there (in Gaza)."

Deputy Defence Minister Zeev Boim apologized for the girl's death, but said the military operations would continue as long as Palestinian militants continue to launch rockets at Israel.

"We are very sorry about it, but you have to understand that the military's task is to defend the security of the citizens of Israel," Boim said. "If the Hamas government will not control these terrorists from firing Qassam (rockets) against Israeli civilians in cities and communities, we will continue to push these citizens out of the range of these rockets."

http://start.shaw.ca/start/enCA/News/WorldNewsArticle.htm?src=w041117A.xml

Another murder by IDF forces. I am sure it is some kind of crime to shell an area with high civilian population. I believe they should be charged for war crimes.
 

diaeagle

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wow....
Deputy Defence Minister Zeev Boim apologized for the girl's death,
heh..what this apologizes change .... the girl was died....

"We are very sorry about it, but you have to understand that the military's task is to defend the security of the citizens of Israel,"

here we must know who is starting threats other........

Boim said. "If the Hamas government will not control these terrorists from firing Qassam (rockets) against Israeli civilians in cities and communities, we will continue to push these citizens out of the range of these rockets."

israel continue operations of killing and dosnt confess HAMAS government then demands them to control the defending (this is not terrorism) palestinians people.... whats the huge contradictions are in Israel policy?
 

jimmoyer

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Meanwhile rockets fire from Gaza into Israel every
day.

It's called a THANK YOU for withdrawal.

And those rockets fire from Palestinian population
centers and from near Mosques.

Taunting.

Hoping the Jew will kill some innocents.

It's quite thoughtful of the Arab for his own people.


Let's see what we wise citizens are doing here, shall
we ?

We're trying to stack the deck.

See no evil on one side, and impute all evil to the
other?

Isn't that what WE are all doing ?

Is it no better than what the leaders of the world
are doing?

Are we no better ?

Of course we aren't.

We're worse.

We the people are a mob, a mobocracy.
 

diaeagle

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Occupied Jerusalem - Israeli and Palestinian human rights groups on Tuesday urged the Israeli occupation army to immediately end the practice of targeting Palestinian civilians in the Gaza Strip, calling the practice a war crime.

Five rights groups, including Physicians for Human Rights, B’tselem, the Association for Civil Rights in Israel, the Al-Mizan and the Gaza Community Mental Health Program, argued that the often indiscriminate bombardment of Palestinian homes constituted a blatant violation of the Basic Rule of the Laws of Armed Conflict whereby civilians and civilian property must be distinguished from military objectives.

The groups pointed out that the firing onto Israeli settlements of home-made missiles didn’t justify the killing by Israeli of Palestinian civilians including children.

Earlier, Palestinian children held a demonstration in downtown Gaza during which they appealed to the international community to “stop the slow-motion holocaust against our people.”

“Yes, there are no gas chambers, but Israel is exterminating us in slow motion,” read one sign carried aloft by children.

On Monday, an Israeli tanks fired an artillery shell at home in northern Gaza, killing a 10-year-old girl and maiming and wounding her entire family, including ten children.

Since the outbreak of the Palestinian uprising against Israel’s occupation of Palestine nearly six years ago, the Israeli army and paramilitary Jewish terrorists, also known as settlers, have killed over 1400 Palestinian children and minors.

Israel claims that most of the killings were done by mistake.
 

jimmoyer

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Stack the moral deck.

Keep firing missles from mosques and crowded
population centers and hope the Jew kills an innocent
to keep the hate going.

We're worse and so less smarter than those
trying to end this.
 

aeon

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jimmoyer said:
Meanwhile rockets fire from Gaza into Israel every
day.

It's called a THANK YOU for withdrawal.

And those rockets fire from Palestinian population
centers and from near Mosques.

Taunting.

Hoping the Jew will kill some innocents.

It's quite thoughtful of the Arab for his own people.


Let's see what we wise citizens are doing here, shall
we ?

We're trying to stack the deck.

See no evil on one side, and impute all evil to the
other?

Isn't that what WE are all doing ?

Is it no better than what the leaders of the world
are doing?

Are we no better ?

Of course we aren't.

We're worse.

We the people are a mob, a mobocracy.

rocket fired from gaza everyday, but from who??


Do you realize that you compare terrorist organisation with the israelis governement??
 

aeon

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jimmoyer said:
Stack the moral deck.

Keep firing missles from mosques and crowded
population centers and hope the Jew kills an innocent
to keep the hate going.

We're worse and so less smarter than those
trying to end this.


THe thing is there is no issue, as long as our govenrment will only see the bad from terrorist groups and not from israeli governement, every one is mad at hamas, but do you know how many innoncent peoples has killed ??


even less than 200

do you know how many innoncent people isreali gov killed?? and how many fo them are homeless??
 

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Re: RE: Israel shells populated areas: most definetly a crim

jimmoyer said:
Stack the moral deck.

Keep firing missles from mosques and crowded
population centers and hope the Jew kills an innocent
to keep the hate going.

We're worse and so less smarter than those
trying to end this.

We keep seeing terms of morality mentioned here at Cancon but the users of the word will not show us thier morality handbook so we can all have a look. We also see the term Jew used to cloud the water. This is not a religious conflict although religion is used perpetually by the supporters of Isreal, who try to hide the war crimes of Israel behind the cloak of another God. Screw Isreal, any respect I had for the nation evaporated in Lebanon.
 

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Re: Israel shells populated areas: most definetly a crime so

it would be rather pointless to fire into unpopulated areas :twisted:
 

Johnny Utah

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Israel does not target civilians and populated areas. Blame the coward Terrorists who use them as shields while launching attacks against Israelis in which Israel returns fire in self defense.
 

Jersay

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Yes Israel does, it has targetted civilians before, rock throws and others protestors and have killed and used them as human shields when they try to enter houses to search for militants.

They are bloody terrorists just like any terrorist organization that America has outlawed.
 

Johnny Utah

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Jersay said:
Yes Israel does, it has targetted civilians before, rock throws and others protestors and have killed and used them as human shields when they try to enter houses to search for militants.

They are bloody terrorists just like any terrorist organization that America has outlawed.
Israel does not target civilians, sadly civilians are killed as collateral damage when Israel repsonds to Terrorist Attacks. For Once try blaming the Terrorists who hide behind civilians.

They are bloody terrorists just like any terrorist organization that America has outlawed.
With a comment like that are you Anti-Semitic or Anti-Israeli?
 

Jersay

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That's a nice way to call it. When militants in Afghanistan hit a school it is called terrorists.

But when Israeli soldiers shoot dead Palestinian children as they walk on their way to school, its collateral damage.

You can call me what you want, I support the Palestinian side to this conflict when most people don't give a damn about the Palestinian people who suffer at the brutal hands of the IDF.
 

jimmoyer

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Jersay, there's enough crap to go around in Palestine
and Israel to keep us fans picking our favorite team
and denouncing the evil opponent to last another
lifetime and so it makes us voyeurs of the news no
better than those making the news, no better than
the leaders or politicians.

I give you guys who support Palestine and ignore
all of its evils of the manipulators there great credit
for making me take a second look at that 1948 war.

However for you to ignore the Arab Elite and
Hezbollah and Hamas and the PLO's cynical use
of their Palestinian brothers launching missles from
mosques and major population centers to taunt
the evil Jew retaliation is a huge blindspot in your
righteousness on this issue.

Have you read this entire thread yet ?
 

Jersay

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I gotten beyond the firing of rockets from mosques and am talking about other issues that with regards to Israel where they have killed innocent Palestinian civilians in this intifada.
 

Johnny Utah

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Jersay said:
That's a nice way to call it. When militants in Afghanistan hit a school it is called terrorists.

But when Israeli soldiers shoot dead Palestinian children as they walk on their way to school, its collateral damage.

You can call me what you want, I support the Palestinian side to this conflict when most people don't give a damn about the Palestinian people who suffer at the brutal hands of the IDF.
What happens in Afghanistan has nothing to do with Israel. Where is your proof that Israeli Soldiers shoot dead Palestinian children on their way to school? You must have an Anti-Israeli website you can link somewhere. :roll:

Since you support the Palestinians and call Israel Terrorists while giving Hezbollah and Hamas a freem pass on their actions why don't you go and join them? Your another Rachel Corrie in the making and we all know what happen to her "SPLAT!"
 

Jersay

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Hezbollah, a group that kicked out Israel from Southern Lebanon.

Hamas, now the democratically elected government of Palestine.

:roll:

That's nice about your opinion, but until occupied Palestinian are free of Israeli murderous actions, at least 1,400 children murdered in the past five years alone. I will call it as I see it.

Check up El-Arish Massacre where your glorious IDF forces killed 1,000 Eqyptian POWs and then U.N observers.
 

diaeagle

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jimmoyer said:
Jersay, there's enough crap to go around in Palestine
and Israel to keep us fans picking our favorite team
and denouncing the evil opponent to last another
lifetime and so it makes us voyeurs of the news no
better than those making the news, no better than
the leaders or politicians.

I give you guys who support Palestine and ignore
all of its evils of the manipulators there great credit
for making me take a second look at that 1948 war.

However for you to ignore the Arab Elite and
Hezbollah and Hamas and the PLO's cynical use
of their Palestinian brothers launching missles from
mosques and major population centers to taunt
the evil Jew retaliation is a huge blindspot in your
righteousness on this issue.

Have you read this entire thread yet ?

jimmoyer.... i think thats not enough unless you stop accusation....you must know Palestinian had never launching missles from
mosques and major population centers... yes they lanched it but not from that places as aborder of GAZA ... and keep your words when you talk about jews or christians or muslims places of worship.. and you must know HAMAS had never lanched qassam rocket since election was up.... but israel didnt stop anyway its terrors ....and you know when palestinians accepted the armistice which ended on 1/1/2006 ..... put israel continue its bloody game... you can read news but never read it from palestinian or israelian or american news ... read from third who is neutral......
 

Johnny Utah

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Jersay said:
Hezbollah, a group that kicked out Israel from Southern Lebanon.

Hamas, now the democratically elected government of Palestine.

:roll:

That's nice about your opinion, but until occupied Palestinian are free of Israeli murderous actions, at least 1,400 children murdered in the past five years alone. I will call it as I see it.

Check up El-Arish Massacre where your glorious IDF forces killed 1,000 Eqyptian POWs and then U.N observers.
Israel withdrew from Lebanon don't try to rewrite history. :lol:
Your comments are Anti-Israeli as are the threads you start on Israel. Your comments on this thread have shown you are pro Hamas and Hezbollah two recognized Terrorist Organizations.
 

jimmoyer

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Diaeagle, go to GOOGLE and type: Gaza rockets.

Explore. Disbelieve anything that does not follow your
bias.

I'm a conservative who likes to read liberal papers. They
happen to believe they want to explore the truth
despite some of the biases we conservatives observe,
as they observe of us.

In addition, Diaeagle, are you too young to not
believe asymetrical war does not involve such tactics ?
Do you sincerely believe the Hamas and Hezbollah
and the PLA has never used a Mosque or a large
population center to fire a rocket to taunt the evil
Jew into retaliation ?