Vince Li could soon move to Winnipeg

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Vince Li could soon move to Winnipeg




WINNIPEG — The man who beheaded Tim McLean aboard a Greyhound bus could soon be moving to Winnipeg. Vince Li was before the Manitoba Criminal Code Review Board Monday afternoon and the board is now being asked to consider unsupervised trips in Winnipeg and a living plan that would allow Li to reside at a Level 5 group home in the city.
Its a move that doesn’t sit well with McLean’s family.



“It’s very disappointing,” said Carol deDelley, who believes those found NCR for murder should remain in a facility for life. “I’ve been saying the same stuff for going on seven years and people are only now starting to perk up and take notice, because guess what? He’s coming to a neighborhood near you.”


Several different tests used by clinicians to establish risk factors have placed Li in lowest possible category to re-engage in violent crime. Experts say as long as he remains compliant with taking medication, which is a key component, Li is at a low risk to reoffend.
Psychiatrists told the board Li had a “good year” and hasn’t had any hallucinations in more than a year. He has expressed remorse for his crimes and is aware of how they have affected society, his clinical team said.
Li’s clinical team recommended he:



  • be moved from the Selkirk Mental Health Centre to the Winnipeg Health Sciences Centre psychiatric unit;
  • continue to take medication for his psychiatric condition;
  • gradually be given unsupervised passes in Winnipeg; and
  • with continuous assessment, possibly be moved to a Level 5 group home, which has 24-hour staff and deals with NCR patients.
The board will decide Li’s future next week.
Vince Li was found not criminally responsible for the killing of Tim McLean near Portage la Prairie, Man., and has since been part of annual reviews that decide whether he should be allowed new freedoms. Li currently lives at the Selkirk Mental Health Centre.


READ MORE: Would tougher NCR rules keep Vince Li from reoffending?


Last year the board granted Li unsupervised visits into Selkirk as well as less supervision on trips into other cities, such as Winnipeg.


READ MORE: Prominent ‘not criminally responsible’ cases not part of trend: experts


Chris Summerville, with the Schizophrenia Society of Canada says Li is doing “profoundly well” and that he has handled stress well. Summerville says while on unsupervised visits in Selkirk he has confronted residents who didn’t want to be near him, or around him, and he has removed himself from the situation.


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Experts say as long as he remains compliant with taking medication, which is a key component, Li is at a low risk to reoffend.
Uh huh, yeah. Here's what I want to know though, if does not remain compliant with taking medication, what is the risk to reoffend then?
 

petros

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My lovely wife has worked in forensics units. It's not finger painting and puppet shows all day. The vast majority take their meds diligently because they are scared sh-tless of themselves and fully accept the guilt of their crime. They still have emotions. The ones that lack remorse, have addiction issues, ontop of mental health issues are the ones who never get to walk free.
 

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My lovely wife has worked in forensics units. It's not finger painting and puppet shows all day. The vast majority take their meds diligently because they are scared sh-tless of themselves and fully accept the guilt of their crime. They still have emotions. The ones that lack remorse, have addiction issues, ontop of mental health issues are the ones who never get to walk free.

But one who already has shown that he will stop taking his meds, should he be trusted to go free? It would be against HIS freedoms to force feed him the meds ya know.
 

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"Chris Summerville, with the Schizophrenia Society of Canada says Li is doing “profoundly well” and that he has handled stress well. Summerville says while on unsupervised visits in Selkirk he has confronted residents who didn’t want to be near him, or around him, and he has removed himself from the situation."

I feel a hell of a lot more sorry for the victim and his family! Fuk it, kill the S.O.B! Life is tough enough without being in his situation. Or perhaps find a nice village of liberal shrinks for him to live in, one with an electric fence and a gate.
 

petros

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But one who already has shown that he will stop taking his meds, should he be trusted to go free? It would be against HIS freedoms to force feed him the meds ya know.

Guilt will keep him on his meds. This guy has been compliant and has deep remorse. If he wasn't, the potential of release would never come about.

Almost all of us have been a state (alcohol) where we wake up to find we did something worthy of guilt or regret. Some never drink again and most will go to length to never get that drunk again.
 

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The authorities trusted Vince Li once before to take his meds and we know how that worked out. Tim Mclean paid for that stupid decision with his life. What does Mclean's family think about this idea? To use a technical term here, Vince Li, is a bloody looney......we should throw away the key.
 

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The authorities trusted Vince Li once before to take his meds and we know how that worked out. Tim Mclean paid for that stupid decision with his life. What does Mclean's family think about this idea? To use a technical term here, Vince Li, is a bloody looney......we should throw away the key.

It would help if you got your facts straight before you prattled on. It has a tendency to make you look stupid. Just ask Loc.
 

JLM

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The authorities trusted Vince Li once before to take his meds and we know how that worked out. Tim Mclean paid for that stupid decision with his life. What does Mclean's family think about this idea? To use a technical term here, Vince Li, is a bloody looney......we should throw away the key.

Yeah, he and Schoenborn should probably share a room!
 

55Mercury

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his only next move is to join izzle.

it's izzle or fizzle

fo'shizzle
 

Curious Cdn

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Hey. No worries. He was in a "robotic state" but he's all right, now.

Nothing to see, here.

Move along, please.



hmmm huh-hmmm hmmm
 

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Mental Health authorities say we have to treat and release violent offenders so we don't have many more coming in the future.It seems an awfully unscientific and uneven way to test theories on mental offender rehab.They should have electronic bands soldered onto their neck if we are going to release them back on unsuspecting public.I don't care if they say its against their rights.My right to drive drunk or high ends where it meets the public.