Hudson Bay polar bear numbers increase

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Hudson Bay polar bear numbers increase
Slight gain over 2004 numbers despite warnings of possible population decline due to climate change

A recent aerial survey of Western Hudson Bay polar bears shows the population has increased slightly to about 1,000 animals, according to the Government of Nunavut.

In 2004, a mark-recapture survey done near Churchill, Man., estimated the Western Hudson Bay population at 935 bears, down from 1194 in 1988. A 2006 study hypothesized that if the climate continued to warm, the polar bear population would decline.

The latest survey used planes and helicopters to cover ground from Chesterfield Inlet, Nunavut, south to the Ontario border.

Drikus Gissing, director of wildlife with the Government of Nunavut, said the new numbers vindicate the Nunavut government's recent decision to increase the area’s bear hunting quota. He also said it’s a clear recognition of the value of Inuit Traditional Knowledge.

"If I could convey one message here, it's that polar bears are not endangered,” he said. “And this confirms it. They are not endangered. There are concerns about the effects of global warming, but they are not endangered."

Nunavut Tunngavik is also commending the results, as predictions of reduced polar bear numbers were used to draw attention to climate change, but it says no changes were made to reduce the causes or impacts of climate change while harvesting quotas were affected.

"We are quite happy,” said James Eetoolook, vice-president of Nunavut Tunngavik. “The western science was predicting the polar bear in the Western Hudson Bay was declining, but again, Inuit proved them they were wrong."

Hudson Bay polar bear numbers increase - North - CBC News
 

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How far have they looked ? Being someone that doesn't believe anything,I would guess that these bears came from someplace else.The sudden appearance of extra ADULT bears seems fishy to me.Works out good for the guides though.
 

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There are various factors that affect a species' population, and nobody specified a particular date in which the polar bear population would decline. Considering the most severe effects of global warming aren't expected for another 20-30 years, no one seriously expected a decline by this year.

One must also take into consideration that species populations (with our exception) typically grow and decline in a cyclical fashion. It's the variance in that growth and decline that ultimately makes the difference in their aggregate change in population.

It's not surprising they got a small bump for now.
 

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There are various factors that affect a species' population, and nobody specified a particular date in which the polar bear population would decline. Considering the most severe effects of global warming aren't expected for another 20-30 years, no one seriously expected a decline by this year.

One must also take into consideration that species populations (with our exception) typically grow and decline in a cyclical fashion. It's the variance in that growth and decline that ultimately makes the difference in their aggregate change in population.

It's not surprising they got a small bump for now.
Really? That some nice guess work you've got going on there. Perhaps polar bears are like coyotes? The more you shoot the damn things the bigger the litters get. Nature is great at keeping a population stable.
 

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Really? That some nice guess work you've got going on there. Perhaps polar bears are like coyotes? The more you shoot the damn things the bigger the litters get. Nature is great at keeping a population stable.

We've shot two polar bears.
 

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Really? That some nice guess work you've got going on there. Perhaps polar bears are like coyotes? The more you shoot the damn things the bigger the litters get. Nature is great at keeping a population stable.
Or food supply..If I see lots of foxes during the summer I know small game hunting will be poor....then the next winter the fox will be starving and the te next summmer small game will flourish again...the cycle is a bit longer(in Years) than that but........
 

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Or food supply..If I see lots of foxes during the summer I know small game hunting will be poor....then the next winter the fox will be starving and the te next summmer small game will flourish again...the cycle is a bit longer(in Years) than that but........
Fox and rabbit balance each other out.
 

DaSleeper

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Fox and rabbit balance each other out.
Like I told an animal rights activist once (she happens to be a relative born in a southern big city...go figure:roll:)

Nature can be more cruel than any hunter can be...I have never heard of any animal in the wild that died of old age....they either starve to death or get eaten alive by another animal.
 

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Like I told an animal rights activist once (she happens to be a relative born in a southern big city...go figure:roll:)

Nature can be more cruel than any hunter can be...I have never heard of any animal in the wild that died of old age....they either starve to death or get eaten alive by another animal.
Last spring the deer in SK had ribs showing after the snow being too deep to feed. It was bizzare to see them along side cattle relying on the hay put out by producers.
 

DaSleeper

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Last spring the deer in SK had ribs showing after the snow being too deep to feed. It was bizzare to see them along side cattle relying on the hay put out by producers.
In Ontario too....You can rely on hunters to supply the deer feeding stations when there is a hard winter....
 

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There are various factors that affect a species' population, and nobody specified a particular date in which the polar bear population would decline. Considering the most severe effects of global warming aren't expected for another 20-30 years, no one seriously expected a decline by this year.

One must also take into consideration that species populations (with our exception) typically grow and decline in a cyclical fashion. It's the variance in that growth and decline that ultimately makes the difference in their aggregate change in population.

It's not surprising they got a small bump for now.


Well that's the problem with AGW. It's never been able to predict anything. It's pathos ridden fear mongering always appeals to sentiment.. of the eradication of the Polar bear as a central icon.. never to reason or real evidence

The fact that its simply NOT true.. that NONE of the dire predictions of AGW have been realized. that they are now been forced to explain cold weather events (such as the brutally cold European winter, or the prevalence stormy weather, a product of cold, not hot weather, or the increase in Polar bears or Arctic char) in an evermore contrived and tangled psuedo scientific model.. doesn't phase them at all.

That's because its a political agenda.. not a scientific reality. In fact its deeper than that, at its core its a pagan spirituality founded in a viciously anti-human system, steeped in pessimism.. and is not the least worried about 'facts'. It's all a matter of 'faith'.
 

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That's because its a political agenda.. not a scientific reality. In fact its deeper than that, at its core its a pagan spirituality founded in a viciously anti-human system, steeped in pessimism.. and is not the least worried about 'facts'. It's all a matter of 'faith'.
It's an easy psychological victory. No matter where you go on the planet the one thing people will talk about is the weather. It's a unifying topic anyone can relate to.
 

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According to a 2009 report by the IUCN Polar Bear Specialist Group, of the 19 recognised subpopulations of polar bears, 8 are in decline, 1 is increasing, 3 are stable and 7 don’t have enough data to draw any conclusions.

Overall, the numbers are declining drastically. Where they are not declining, the health of the populations are suffering. Underweight females and starving cubs are the norm as the feeding season shortens due to late freeze up.