Are we raising an Orwelian Generation.


Cliffy
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Raising Up an Orwellian Generation - YouTube

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The full video can be seen on this website:
www.tagtele.com/videos/voir/47708/1/ (external - login to view)
 
CDNBear
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When I went to school, I didn't see drug sniffing dogs, or armed Officers (Apart for the years I spent in Juvenile Detention) either.

But than again I didn't see...

Drugs...
Armed children...
Vandalism...
Theft...
Violence...

Like you see in schools today.

Even kids should own their own responsibility and accountability. That's not to say one should have their rights forfeited because they go to school.
 
WLDB
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#3
Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBearView Post


But than again I didn't see...

Drugs...
Armed children...
Vandalism...
Theft...
Violence...

Like you see in schools today.

Thats a bit of a generational generalization. I didn't see any of that stuff either when I was in school, though I did smell the drugs from time to time. My father on the other hand saw and did all of the above. Luckily for him he wasnt caught and grew out of it eventually.
 
CDNBear
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Quote: Originally Posted by WLDBView Post

Thats a bit of a generational generalization. I didn't see any of that stuff either when I was in school, though I did smell the drugs from time to time. My father on the other hand saw and did all of the above. Luckily for him he wasnt caught and grew out of it eventually.

The video in the OP is a bit of a generalization. Since the school my youngest goes to, doesn't have any of the things discussed in the video, installed or take place. Conversely, I know of schools throughout Toronto (And the GTA), that do.

BTW; I did all those things to, hence my incarceration in a juvenile detention facility.

I just didn't do them at school.
 
L Gilbert
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Didn't have nonsense like that happening when I was in school. But then again, if someone was bullying someone else and wasn't interrupted, the bully might give another kid a black eye or a fat lip. These days, kids die from being bullied.
It used to be that getting caught stealing a chocolate bar was a really big thing. Kids these days steal cars.
There are more instances of differences between the "old days" and now.
Kids are not the problem. Reactions to stuff like I described isn't the problem.
The problem is society. It's f'ing sick and no-one seems to want to do anything about it; just patch it here and there with spycams, sniffer dogs, idiotic gun registries, etc.
Why is society sick? Screwed up priorities and a lack of principles.
 
Cannuck
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I saw alot more drugs in my school then in my kids school. I wasn't concerned about armed kids in my school and my kids aren't concerned in their school. There was as much vandalism and theft in my school as in my kids school. There was probably more violence in my school.
 
CDNBear
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Quote: Originally Posted by CannuckView Post

I saw alot more drugs in my school then in my kids school. I wasn't concerned about armed kids in my school and my kids aren't concerned in their school. There was as much vandalism and theft in my school as in my kids school. There was probably more violence in my school.

And you are aware of all this because you're in some of the same classes as your kids no doubt.
 
WLDB
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We are becoming a bit of an Orwellian society. In cities we're being watched whenever we're out of our homes by security cameras, generally. Now they want to watch what we do online. Companies are selling our information to advertisers etc.
 
Cannuck
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Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBearView Post

And you are aware of all this because you're in some of the same classes as your kids no doubt.

Yes, that's why I saw more drugs in my school than theirs...because we are in the same school. The harder you try the more stupid you look.
 
CDNBear
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Quote: Originally Posted by WLDBView Post

We are becoming a bit of an Orwellian society. In cities we're being watched whenever we're out of our homes by security cameras, generally. Now they want to watch what we do online. Companies are selling our information to advertisers etc.

No doubt that it's quite troubling. But we all want security or justice. I can't even remember how many times I've asked to see CCTV footage of a parking lot, because someone has hit one of my vehicles and just driven off.

I'm sure there's a happy medium somewhere.

Quote: Originally Posted by CannuckView Post

Yes, because we are in the same school.

As I thought.
 
Cannuck
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Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBearView Post

I can't even remember how many times I've asked to see CCTV footage of a parking lot, because someone has hit one of my vehicles and just driven off.

You should talk to your doctor about that. There is medication that can slow the symptoms down if caught soon enough.


As for me, I'm not quite afraid enough to embrace the coming police state. Just why are you so afraid? You should consider moving someplace safer if you are so afraid
 
CDNBear
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Quote: Originally Posted by CannuckView Post

You should talk to your doctor about that. There is medication that can slow the symptoms down if caught soon enough.


As for me, I'm not quite afraid enough to embrace the coming police state. Just why are you so afraid? You should consider moving someplace safer if you are so afraid

I'm sure your admitted stupidity is the cause of that nonsensical reply.

Perhaps you should ask one of your kids to read it to you, so you can actually answer the content of my post. Instead of what you imagined it said.

Your post sounds angry and confused. You really shouldn't take the net so seriously little guy.
Last edited by CDNBear; Feb 22nd, 2012 at 06:19 PM..
 
Cannuck
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Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBearView Post

Your post sounds angry and confused.

I never get angry. As for confused, coming from somebody that can't even remember how many times he's been the victim of a hit and run, that's pretty funny. I can tell precisely how many times I have had somebody hit my car and taken off. As I said, there is help out there. You just need to take the first step and see your doctor.
 
CDNBear
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Quote: Originally Posted by CannuckView Post

I never get angry. As for confused, coming from somebody that can't even remember how many times he's been the victim of a hit and run, that's pretty funny. I can tell precisely how many times I have had somebody hit my car and taken off. As I said, there is help out there. You just need to take the first step and see your doctor.

Your arrogance is funny.

I used to have several trucks running routes in downtown Toronto, Scarborough, Mississauga, Markham.

The harder you try, the more stupid you make yourself look. Not that it matters, since you've already admitted to being stupid. All you're doing now is confirming it.
 
Cannuck
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Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBearView Post

I used to have several trucks running routes in downtown Toronto, Scarborough, Mississauga, Markham.

Yes, I'm sure you did.
 
CDNBear
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Quote: Originally Posted by CannuckView Post

Yes, I'm sure you did.

I'm glad you accept that, since it's common knowledge among those that have known me a long time out here, and have met me in the real world.
 
Cannuck
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Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBearView Post

I'm glad you accept that, since it's common knowledge among those that have known me a long time out here, and have met me in the real world.

That's odd. I didn't think you lived in the real world.
 
CDNBear
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Quote: Originally Posted by CannuckView Post

That's odd. I didn't think you lived in the real world.

That's because you're admittedly stupid.
 
Cannuck
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Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBearView Post

That's because you're admittedly stupid.

That's odd. I thought it was because you didn't live in the real world. I mean, here in the real world I managed a service department with a fleet of trucks and can tell you exactly how many times the company was involved in a hit and run incident. My memory is good though. You really should get that checked out.
 
CDNBear
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Quote: Originally Posted by CannuckView Post

That's odd. I thought it was because you didn't live in the real world. I mean, here in the real world I managed a service department with a fleet of trucks and can tell you exactly how many times the company was involved in a hit and run incident. My memory is good though. You really should get that checked out.

LOL.

You're funny when you get angry.
 
Cannuck
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Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBearView Post

LOL.

You're funny

I fixed that for you. I know you probably can't remember me saying I never get angry. Seriously, see a doctor.
 
CDNBear
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Quote: Originally Posted by CannuckView Post

I fixed that for you. I know you probably can't remember me saying I never get angry. Seriously, see a doctor.

Oh I remembered it, your frantic posts and silly dick waving say otherwise.

But please keep going. The harder you try, the more your confirm you admitted stupidity.
Last edited by CDNBear; Feb 22nd, 2012 at 06:58 PM..
 
Cannuck
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Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBearView Post

Oh I remembered it

So you just couldn't grasp the concept then. Gotcha.
 
CDNBear
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Quote: Originally Posted by CannuckView Post

So you just couldn't grasp the concept then. Gotcha.

Obviously you don't "Got me".

Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBearView Post

Oh I remembered it, your frantic posts and silly dick waving say otherwise.

Your admitted stupidity, impeded your understanding of the qualification there.

You should get one of your kids to explain it to you.
 
damngrumpy
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When I went to school I had an old Studebaker with the armrests that could be lifted up
they made great beer coolers. yes we had drinking, drugs not so much but the bully was
around as well. We had a group of kids who took on the bully from time to time so in our
school which was small saw little of it. I was a big kid and had no trouble taking on a
bully in defence of someone. No we did not stand by and let some skinny little guy get
beat up.
There were no weapons either and there was something that is missing today, Respect.

I learned a lot of things from teachers who were on the center right, left and center and back
then you could actually discuss issues especially in current affairs without the do gooders
stepping in. The discussion of those days provided us with balanced opinions.
 
TenPenny
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Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBearView Post


But than again I didn't see...

Drugs...
Armed children...
Vandalism...
Theft...
Violence...

I saw all of those, and participated in several. And that was Jr High School.

What the hell were you doing that you didn't see them?




One good memory I had from university, though, is that a friend of mine was the son of the Staff Sgt/NCO of our local RCMP detachment, and we went to university in the city with the Div headquarters, so whenever he was in town on business, on a Friday, he'd come by to see if anyone from home wanted a drive home for the weekend. He'd always show up to the residence in a marked RCMP car, in uniform, and then stomp his way up the hall, scaring the living crap out of those who didn't know him.
 
mentalfloss
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As much as I agree, I think the only way these things will change is to identify problematic behaviours in the state and people without referring to terms like "1984", "Orwell", "Big Brother", etc.. Maybe we can enjoy the jargon or even profs from the ivory tower, but I think these are antiquated terms that pull "everyday" people out of the initiative to change things for the better.
 
CDNBear
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Quote: Originally Posted by TenPennyView Post

I saw all of those, and participated in several. And that was Jr High School.

Wow, who knew the school populated by mostly Native kids, was better than the school you went to.

Kind of throws a wrench in dumpsters thinking.

Quote:

What the hell were you doing that you didn't see them?

The fact that it just wasn't prevalent, getting an education.
Last edited by CDNBear; Feb 23rd, 2012 at 04:22 PM..
 
Nuggler
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#29
I think we are raising not necessarily an Orwellian Generation, rather a generation during Orwellian times.

George might say that Harpo is using his playbook.

Don't worry, be happy.

The Green Army will defeat the Blue Army. Just today several Blues were killed as they attempted to storm the Truethought Doublespeak building. Greens are mopping up at present.

All is well.

Please turn up your screen.
 

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