#1Jan 6th, 2012
But the easterns will not give him the recognition he so rightly deserves.
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That should be spelled "premiers".....auto correct!!!
No Order of Canada for Ralph Klein
But the easterns will not give him the recognition he so rightly deserves.
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That should be spelled "premiers".....auto correct!!!
#2
Re: No Order of Canada for Ralph Klein
Jan 6th, 2012
Who cares? The Order of Canada is a meaningless accolade, especially since they gave it to Henry Morgentaler.
#3
Re: No Order of Canada for Ralph Klein
Jan 6th, 2012Quote: Originally Posted by In Between Man
I care, if they gave it some premiers, why can't they be consistent?Who cares? The Order of Canada is a meaningless accolade, especially since they gave it to Henry Morgentaler.
Besides Morgentaler was an easterner!!
#4
Re: No Order of Canada for Ralph Klein
Jan 6th, 2012
maybe Klein didn't do enough for the whole Country. I can think of lots of good things he did for Alberta, but, for the whole country, I'm stumped.
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#5Re: No Order of Canada for Ralph Klein
Jan 6th, 2012Quote: Originally Posted by Durry
Yss, from Europe.I care, if they gave it some premiers, why can't they be consistent?
Besides Morgentaler was an easterner!!
#6
Re: No Order of Canada for Ralph Klein
Jan 6th, 2012Quote: Originally Posted by gerryh
But isn't Alberta a part of Canada? Further to that, the '88 Olympics were an event that brought positive attention to the entire country, much as the 2010 Vancouver ones did. I always liked Ralph, and he has received his share of accolades and criticisms over the years, but I don't think he's going to lose sleep over the Order of Canada...maybe Klein didn't do enough for the whole Country. I can think of lots of good things he did for Alberta, but, for the whole country, I'm stumped.
#7
Re: No Order of Canada for Ralph Klein
Jan 6th, 2012
Maybe they haven't forgotten his "shoot, shovel, and shut up" remark about bovine spongiform encephalopathy.
#8
Re: No Order of Canada for Ralph Klein
Jan 6th, 2012Quote: Originally Posted by wulfie68
Your right, Ralph made sure the oil industry thrived under his leadership, and if AB does well, the whole country does well.But isn't Alberta a part of Canada? Further to that, the '88 Olympics were an event that brought positive attention to the entire country, much as the 2010 Vancouver ones did. I always liked Ralph, and he has received his share of accolades and criticisms over the years, but I don't think he's going to lose sleep over the Order of Canada...
This is just another example of ....same old, same old....
#9
Re: No Order of Canada for Ralph Klein
Jan 6th, 2012Quote: Originally Posted by Ariadne
Something about Eastern Bastards and Freezing comes to mind.Maybe they haven't forgotten his "shoot, shovel, and shut up" remark about bovine spongiform encephalopathy.
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#10Re: No Order of Canada for Ralph Klein
Jan 6th, 2012Quote: Originally Posted by Durry
Your right, Ralph made sure the oil industry thrived under his leadership, and if AB does well, the whole country does well.
This is just another example of ....same old, same old....
He also cut a lot of big corners environmentally. Some of the inside stories about what happened under his watchful eye are pretty scary.
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#11Re: No Order of Canada for Ralph Klein
Jan 6th, 2012
Ralph doesn't deserve an award on the national scale, besides isn't he the guy the
Indians gave a title to? They called him Chief Walking Eagle, because he was too
full of shi*t to fly.
Ralph was a leader a premier and a journalist he was also a loud mouthed drunk
who didn't know when to shut up. It has nothing to do with Eastern or Western
Canada he offended enough people in his time and therefore he gets left off the
invitation list as it were.
Ralph was also the guy who told people in a shelter to get a job, only to find out one
of them was a passer by from Cape Breton who challenged him. Ralph is luck he
didn't go outside with a Caper he would have woke up about a week from Wednesday.
No he does not deserve to have a Title, at least not at this time.
Indians gave a title to? They called him Chief Walking Eagle, because he was too
full of shi*t to fly.
Ralph was a leader a premier and a journalist he was also a loud mouthed drunk
who didn't know when to shut up. It has nothing to do with Eastern or Western
Canada he offended enough people in his time and therefore he gets left off the
invitation list as it were.
Ralph was also the guy who told people in a shelter to get a job, only to find out one
of them was a passer by from Cape Breton who challenged him. Ralph is luck he
didn't go outside with a Caper he would have woke up about a week from Wednesday.
No he does not deserve to have a Title, at least not at this time.
#12
Re: No Order of Canada for Ralph Klein
Jan 6th, 2012Quote: Originally Posted by Ariadne
That is what happens when you put a grade 4 dropout with an drinking problem in charge of the hen house.He also cut a lot of big corners environmentally. Some of the inside stories about what happened under his watchful eye are pretty scary.
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#13Re: No Order of Canada for Ralph Klein
Jan 6th, 2012
Ralph was a good guy.He stuck up for his province and told the rest wanting the NEP to go **** themselves,thats why he will allways be remembered as a leader with balls.
#14
Re: No Order of Canada for Ralph Klein
Jan 6th, 2012Quote: Originally Posted by damngrumpy
He pulled up to a homeless shelter in a drunken stupor in the middle of the night, entered the building, insulted and berated the residents, pulled out his pocket change and threw it at the people in the homeless shelter and then drove off in his limo.Ralph doesn't deserve an award on the national scale, besides isn't he the guy the
Indians gave a title to? They called him Chief Walking Eagle, because he was too
full of shi*t to fly.
Ralph was a leader a premier and a journalist he was also a loud mouthed drunk
who didn't know when to shut up. It has nothing to do with Eastern or Western
Canada he offended enough people in his time and therefore he gets left off the
invitation list as it were.
Ralph was also the guy who told people in a shelter to get a job, only to find out one
of them was a passer by from Cape Breton who challenged him. Ralph is luck he
didn't go outside with a Caper he would have woke up about a week from Wednesday.
No he does not deserve to have a Title, at least not at this time.
#15
Re: No Order of Canada for Ralph Klein
Jan 6th, 2012
http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/TopStories/20011214/ctvnews832480/
Remember his tipsy midnight cab ride to the Herb Jamieson homeless shelter when he swore and argued with residents...
Klien had many good points, but is he deserving of the "Order of Canada"? Well...
The eastern-western thesis is peurile.
Remember his tipsy midnight cab ride to the Herb Jamieson homeless shelter when he swore and argued with residents...
Klien had many good points, but is he deserving of the "Order of Canada"? Well...
The eastern-western thesis is peurile.
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#16Re: No Order of Canada for Ralph Klein
Jan 6th, 2012Quote: Originally Posted by Kakato
He did some good stuff, but he also did some stupid stuff. His shoot, shovel and shut up remark earned nothing but international distrust in the Canadian cattle industry.Ralph was a good guy.He stuck up for his province and told the rest wanting the NEP to go **** themselves,thats why he will allways be remembered as a leader with balls.
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#17Re: No Order of Canada for Ralph Klein
Jan 6th, 2012Quote: Originally Posted by Kakato
Wrong premier.Ralph was a good guy.He stuck up for his province and told the rest wanting the NEP to go **** themselves,thats why he will allways be remembered as a leader with balls.
#18
Re: No Order of Canada for Ralph Klein
Jan 6th, 2012
He has frontal lobe dimentia/alzheimers, so perhaps those bad behaviors were nothing more than early signs ... but still, they cannot be overlooked.
... and what about the story where he performed a marriage ceremony for his daughter who was marrying a man that was already married ... there are an awful lot of questionable incidents with Ralph Klein.
... and what about the story where he performed a marriage ceremony for his daughter who was marrying a man that was already married ... there are an awful lot of questionable incidents with Ralph Klein.
#19
Re: No Order of Canada for Ralph Klein
Jan 6th, 2012Quote: Originally Posted by Spade
Wrong premier.
He carried the torch,we all remember PET,Ralph kinda told the east that he was going to make sure we didnt get raped by eastern Canada and we did'nt get raped by the feds.
Quote: Originally Posted by Ariadne
He has frontal lobe dimentia/alzheimers, so perhaps those bad behaviors were nothing more than early signs ... but still, they cannot be overlooked.
... and what about the story where he performed a marriage ceremony for his daughter who was marrying a man that was already married ... there are an awful lot of questionable incidents with Ralph Klein.
You have a link I presume? Because I could say your a child molester but without proof it means nothing but it still makes you look bad.
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#20Re: No Order of Canada for Ralph Klein
Jan 6th, 2012
My favorite Ralph Kleinism
Ralph Klein Belinda Stronach - YouTube
#22
Re: No Order of Canada for Ralph Klein
Jan 6th, 2012
Ya he told the people who wanted a National Energy Policy to get lost, well if we had
a national energy policy now we would be a heck of a lot better off. We need to keep
as much black gold for our own nation as we can, and what we do ship should be as
refined product.
Alberta can boast all it wants and protest but before Jed Clampett discovered crude
south of Edmonton the rest of the country carried that Province on its back. How quick
some forget. Yes Alberta has paid more than its share since then but that is the price
of being Canadian, BC has paid a lot too and I don't have a problem with that at all.
I suppose its because I have always been somewhat of an economic nationalist.
Yes I support a Canada first policy in exports, and all natural resources.
a national energy policy now we would be a heck of a lot better off. We need to keep
as much black gold for our own nation as we can, and what we do ship should be as
refined product.
Alberta can boast all it wants and protest but before Jed Clampett discovered crude
south of Edmonton the rest of the country carried that Province on its back. How quick
some forget. Yes Alberta has paid more than its share since then but that is the price
of being Canadian, BC has paid a lot too and I don't have a problem with that at all.
I suppose its because I have always been somewhat of an economic nationalist.
Yes I support a Canada first policy in exports, and all natural resources.
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#23Re: No Order of Canada for Ralph Klein
Jan 6th, 2012Quote: Originally Posted by Kakato
Ralph Klein Premier 1992-2006He carried the torch,we all remember PET,Ralph kinda told the east that he was going to make sure we didnt get raped by eastern Canada and we did'nt get raped by the feds..
Trudeau PM 1968-1979, 1980-1984
You are myth taken.
#24
Re: No Order of Canada for Ralph Klein
Jan 6th, 2012Quote: Originally Posted by damngrumpy
Tell somebody who cars!!I suppose its because I have always been somewhat of an economic nationalist.
Yes I support a Canada first policy in exports, and all natural resources.
#25
Re: No Order of Canada for Ralph Klein
Jan 6th, 2012Quote: Originally Posted by Kakato
He carried the torch,we all remember PET,Ralph kinda told the east that he was going to make sure we didnt get raped by eastern Canada and we did'nt get raped by the feds.
The NEP was in 1980 to 1986. Ralphie boy didn't even become Mayor of Calgary untill 1980. He had no provincial "clout" throughout the NEP years and did not run for provincial politics untill 1989.
#26
Re: No Order of Canada for Ralph Klein
Jan 6th, 2012Quote: Originally Posted by Durry
CaresTell somebody who cars!!
#27
Re: No Order of Canada for Ralph Klein
Jan 6th, 2012Quote: Originally Posted by gerryh
Yes and after the NEP was toast he made sure it did not resurface gerry.The NEP was in 1980 to 1986. Ralphie boy didn't even become Mayor of Calgary untill 1980. He had no provincial "clout" throughout the NEP years and did not run for provincial politics untill 1989.
#28
Re: No Order of Canada for Ralph Klein
Jan 6th, 2012Quote: Originally Posted by Kakato
Yes and after the NEP was toast he made sure it did not resurface gerry.
roflmao.... nice back pedal.
#29
Re: No Order of Canada for Ralph Klein
Jan 6th, 2012Quote: Originally Posted by damngrumpy
Alberta is one of the most succesfull provinces in our country right now and the economic engine that is keeping Canada alive in these times,Saskatchewan will be next and if you dont think so then all the other provinces better pull up their bootstraps before asking for more transfer payments,Get er done!Ya he told the people who wanted a National Energy Policy to get lost, well if we had
a national energy policy now we would be a heck of a lot better off. We need to keep
as much black gold for our own nation as we can, and what we do ship should be as
refined product.
Alberta can boast all it wants and protest but before Jed Clampett discovered crude
south of Edmonton the rest of the country carried that Province on its back. How quick
some forget. Yes Alberta has paid more than its share since then but that is the price
of being Canadian, BC has paid a lot too and I don't have a problem with that at all.
I suppose its because I have always been somewhat of an economic nationalist.
Yes I support a Canada first policy in exports, and all natural resources.
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