Secret of Space: Nasa 's biggest secret

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What...no more link surge...no more pages full of cuts and pastes?

I read every bit, every link...you still have no proof.
 

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No, you've provided links that make claims, not proof.

You still haven't said why anyone is hiding aliens.

Just that the government (13 Satanist families) are hiding Aliens.

So, WHY is the government (be they elected by vote or by Satan) hiding aliens?
 

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No, you've provided links that make claims, not proof.

You still haven't said why anyone is hiding aliens.

Just that the government (13 Satanist families) are hiding Aliens.

So, WHY is the government (be they elected by vote or by Satan) hiding aliens?

I second this.

He has provided absolutley no proof whatsoever.
 

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No, you've provided links that make claims, not proof.

You still haven't said why anyone is hiding aliens.

Just that the government (13 Satanist families) are hiding Aliens.

So, WHY is the government (be they elected by vote or by Satan) hiding aliens?


Apollo 14 astronaut claims aliens HAVE made contact - but it has been covered up for 60 years


Last updated at 1:44 AM on 24th July 2008


Edgar Mitchell was the Lunar Module Pilot for Apollo 14


Aliens have contacted humans several times but governments have hidden the truth for 60 years, the sixth man to walk on the moon has claimed.


Apollo 14 astronaut Dr Edgar Mitchell, said he was aware of many UFO visits to Earth during his career with NASA but each one was covered up.

Dr Mitchell, 77, said during a radio interview that sources at the space agency who had had contact with aliens described the beings as 'little people who look strange to us.'

He said supposedly real-life ET's were similar to the traditional image of a small frame, large eyes and head.

Chillingly, he claimed our technology is 'not nearly as sophisticated' as theirs and "had they been hostile", he warned 'we would be been gone by now'.

Dr Mitchell, along with with Apollo 14 commander Alan Shepard, holds the record for the longest ever moon walk, at nine hours and 17 minutes following their 1971 mission.

'I happen to have been privileged enough to be in on the fact that we've been visited on this planet and the UFO phenomena is real,' Dr Mitchell said.

'It's been well covered up by all our governments for the last 60 years or so, but slowly it's leaked out and some of us have been privileged to have been briefed on some of it.





UFO theorists believe Roswell in New Mexico was the site of an alien crash in 1947



'I've been in military and intelligence circles, who know that beneath the surface of what has been public knowledge, yes - we have been visited. Reading the papers recently, it's been happening quite a bit.'

Dr Mitchell, who has a Bachelor of Science degree in aeronautical engineering and a Doctor of Science degree in Aeronautics and Astronautics claimed Roswell was real and similar alien visits continue to be investigated.

He told the astonished Kerrang! radio host Nick Margerrison: "This is really starting to open up. I think we're headed for real disclosure and some serious organisations are moving in that direction.'

Mr Margerrison said: 'I thought I'd stumbled on some sort of astronaut humour but he was absolutely serious that aliens are definitely out there and there's no debating it.'

Officials from NASA, however, were quick to play the comments down.

In a statement, a spokesman said: "NASA does not track UFOs. NASA is not involved in any sort of cover up about alien life on this planet or anywhere in the universe.

'Dr Mitchell is a great American, but we do not share his opinions on this issue.'


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...ms-aliens-HAVE-contact--covered-60-years.html

In todays news
 

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No, you've provided links that make claims, not proof.

You still haven't said why anyone is hiding aliens.

Just that the government (13 Satanist families) are hiding Aliens.

So, WHY is the government (be they elected by vote or by Satan) hiding aliens?

i did say why i thought that this was the case

I cant believe you are going down this road ,whether it is called a frigging UFO, or a ASC,(alien space craft) or the dam enterprise ,it is not the issue the issue is, they exist they have been documented and its being hidden, as to why there here or whats the point of them,is the real deal, have you ever thought one group of aliens maybe good,and at war with others, less likely to do us any good, and have you ever thought which ones our own government are in touch with, maybe its the bad ones, and maybe there in cahoots with them to stop the good ones from helping us,and maybe thats why we aint told anything ...???? MAYBE...!!!!!!

this was my reply
 

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UFO Coverup

The Real Danger to the World is the Government's Heavy Blanket of Secrecy


UFO Cover-Up Fading Says Legendary White House Correspondent
by Sarah McClendon
White House Correspondent
Source: McClendon News Service
March 30, 1998
Washington, D.C. -- Unidentified Flying Objects, a term given for many years to unexplained sightings of craft in the skies over every state in the Union, are actual visitors from other worlds, believe a community of scientists and technicians employed by government.
The real danger to the U. S. and perhaps this whole planet is the government has placed such a heavy blanket of secrecy upon this issue. So much secrecy, those in government who have knowledge showing UFOs are identifiable feel the subject cannot be discussed by those in the know without serious repercussions. Others are afraid their friends and co-workers will think they are crazy if they even so much as insinuate that UFOs are identifiable as manned craft from outside the earth. This particularly applies to newspaper editors and publishers, reporters and analysts. Thus the U. S. is denying itself the chance to learn more about UFOs or to encourage research despite the fact the U. S. stands to gain form such discussions.

http://www.geocities.com/area51/shadowlands/6583/coverup046.html
 

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Question
1)What is the reason for the UFO cover-up by the Government?
2)have there really been UFO crashes and recovery of alien beings by the Government?
3)Would I be bugged by some Government agency or man in black for asking you these questions (!!!)





1.) The government of Earth is creating and maintaining the dire problems on our world. They will not accept help from the visiting races and that is all the alien races are offering. The government wants other kinds of things from the aliens that the aliens would never share with them. Whenever the public learns the truth of the intentions of the visiting races from the aliens themselves, we recognize the crimes of the government against their own people. So, the government is trying to keep the alien races away from Earth and keep the public in disbelief. As the public is becoming aware despite government control, the government is trying to make the public believe they are trying to protect their people as if the alien races are the ones committing the crimes.

2.) Yes, there have been alien crafts and bodies recovered by the government due to both accidental crashes and military attacks.

3.) No, you would not be put on surveillance just for asking me these kinds of questions.
 

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UFO crashes file:

ALLEGED UFO CRASHES LISTING:



Here is a list of some well known alleged UFO crashes. When information exists within this site, you can click the available link in the "notes" column of this table to read it.


http://www.ufologie.net/htm/crashes.htm

Reported Crashes and Recoveries based of Witnesses and Newspaper Articles.

[SIZE=-1]1864 September Cadotte Pass, Missouri Original newspaper article of 1864. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1884 June 6 Holdredge, Nebraska Inconclusive but quite interesting. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1884 December 13 Sorisole, near Bergamo, Italy [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1897 April 17 Aurora, Texas Hoax ?[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1897 April 19 Leroy, Kansas, USA Hoax ?[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1907 Burlington, Vermont, USA [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1908 June 30 Tunguska River, USSR [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1910/1915 Puglia Italy [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1923 Quetta, Pakistan [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1925 Chevy Chase, Maryland, USA [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1925 Sept/Oct Polson, Montana [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1930 Mandurah, West Australia [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1933 Italy [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1936 Black Forest, Germany [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1938 summer Czernica, Poland [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1941 West of San Diego, Ca [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1941 Spring Cape Girardeau, Missouri [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1941 July 4 Tinian Island, Oceania [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1945 Somewhere in the UK [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1945 Mataquescuintla, Guatemala [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1946 Magdalena, NM [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1946 July 9 Lake Barken, Sweden [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1946 July 10 Bjorkon, Sweden [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1946 July 18 Lake Mjosa Sweden [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1946 July 19 Noon Lake Kolmjarv, Sweden [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1946 August 12 SW Sweden [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1946 August 16 Malmo Sweden [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1946 mid-October Southern Sweden [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1947 January Papagos Indian Reserv. AZ NEW [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1947 May Spitzbergen, Norway Newspaper articles, cover up, 17 bodies. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1947 May 31 Socorro, New Mexico [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1947 July Near St. Joseph, MO [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1947 July 4 Roswell, New Mexico, USA The well known Roswell affair. 4-5 bodies, one alive ET? [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1947 July 5 Plains of San Augustin, New Mexico, USA [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1947 July 31 Maury Island, Tacoma, USA Complicated hoax?. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1947 August 13 Hopi Reservation, Arizona [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1947 October 2 Cave Creek, Arizona, USA [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1947 October Paradise Valley, Arizona, USA [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1947 October 20 San Diego , California [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1948 Kingman, Arizona, USA [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1948 February 13 Aztec, New Mexico, USA Controversial, 12 alleged bodies rccovered[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1948 March 25 White Sands, New Mexico, USA [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1948 7/8 July Near Laredo, 38 miles inside Mexico Bodies recovered. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1948 August Laredo, Texas, USA 1 body recovered [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1949 Roswell, NM, USA Not the famous case of 1947. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1949 August 19 Death Valley, California, USA Story by 2 prospectors. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1950 (before) Near Mexico City, Mexico Second hand witness. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1950 January Mojave Desert, California, USA [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1950 February 10 Copenhagen, Denmark Farmer witness UFO explode. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1950 March? New Mexico, USA FBI memo mentions recovery of 3 crashed saucers. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1950 April Argentina Bodies not there anymore on next day [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1950 Birmingham, Alabama Single witness case. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1950 May 10 Bahia Blanca Province, Argentina [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1950 September 10 Albuquerque, Texas, USA 3 bodies [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1950 December 6 El Indio/Guerrero area, Tex-Mex border, Texas, USA [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1952 July Washington DC, USA [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1952 July 23 Pueblo, Colorado, USA Admitted hoax. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1952 August Ohio, USA [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1952 August 14 Ely, Nevada, USA 16 bodies recovered. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1952 September 9 Spitzbergen, Norway Probable mystification. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1953 Brady, Montana, USA Recovery of bodies by military. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1953 April 18 South-West Arizona, USA [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1953 May 20 Western Utah, USA [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1953 May 20/21 Kingman, Arizona, USA Reliable witness, 2 bodies [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1953 June 19 Laredo, Texas, USA 4 bodies [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1953 Summer Fort Polk, LA, USA [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1953 July 10 Johannesburg, South Africa 5 bodies [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1953 October 13 Dutton, Montana, USA 4 bodies [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1954 (Spring) Matydale, New York, USA Police denies incident. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1955 July Vestra Norrland, Sweden [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1955 May 5 Brighton, UK 5 bodies [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1957 July 18 Carlsbad, New Mexico, USA 4 bodies [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1957 September 14 Ubatuba, Brazil Physical evidences, fragments analyzed. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1957 November 21 Reasty Hill, Scarborough, Yorks [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1958/1959 Woomera, Australia [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1958 Utah desert [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1959 January 21 Gdynia, Poland [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1959 Frdynia, Poland Body and parts. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1959 September 17 Wormer near Amsterdam [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1959 Undated Italy, North of Rome [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1960s offshore Spain [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1960s Great Sand Dunes, Co [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1960 March New Paltz, New York, USA Alien dies 28 days later. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1961 Timmensdorfer, Germany [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1961 April 28 2am. Lake Onega, Karelskaya, USSR. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1962 June 12 Holoman AFB, New Mexico, USA 2 bodies [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1962 Otero County, NM [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1962 April 18 Las Vegas, Nevada, USA Impressive events. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1963/1972 Australia, 12 recoveries [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1963 July 16 Charlton, UK [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1963 December 10 Cosford RAF, UK Alleged crash cover-up on RAF base. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1964 November 10 Fort Riley, Kansas, USA 9 bodies [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1965 San Miguel, Argentina [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1965 December 9 Kecksburg, Michigan, USA Very famous controversial case. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1966 October 26 Arizona, USA 1 body [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1967 January South-West Missouri, USA 40 inches disc [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1968 February 12 Orocue, Columbia US say 'satellite debris'. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1972 July 18 Saharian desert, Morocco 3 bodies [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1973 July 10 Northwest Arizona, USA 5 bodies [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1974 Llandrillo, Clwyd, Wales, UK [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1974 November 9 Carbondale, Pennsylvania, USA Hoax or cover story? [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1974 May 17 Chili, New Mexico, USA UFO moved to Kirtland AFB. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1974 August 25 Chihuahua, Mexico Disc crash [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1976 May 12 Desert, Australia 4 bodies [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1977 April 5 South-West Ohio, USA 11 bodies [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1977 June 22 Northwest Arizona, USA 5 bodies [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1977 August 17 Tobasco, Mexico 2 bodies [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1978 May 6 Padcaya, Bolivia Search team finds nothing. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1978 Ocean off Finland, USSR USSR army rcovers bodies. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1978 November 10 Lebannon [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1988 Russia Hill 611: debris recovered, analysis, conclusion: ET craft. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1988 November Afghanistan 7 bodies [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1989 Cap Ontario, Canada [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1989 May 7 Kalahari desert, Botswana, South Africa (Hoax or controversial) [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1989 Siberia 9 alive [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1989 September 28 Smith's Point Beach, Long Island, New York, USA [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1990 September 2 Megas Platanos, Greece [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1992 April Niagara Falls, USA Recovery by Army in front of witnesses [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1992 November Long Island, New York, USA UFO Network is investigating. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1994 Birmingham, UK [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1996 January 20 Varginha, Brazil Alleged capture of aliens by the military. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]2000 August 27 Balochistan, Pakistan Newspaper report ufos and ufo crash.[/SIZE]


http://www.burlingtonnews.net/ufocrashes.html
 

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CARBONDALE PENNSYLVANIA 1974 UFO CRASH
[SIZE=-1]INVESTIGATION BY BRAD AND MARY SUTHERLAND [/SIZE]
Case Findings: Based on our findings this was a real event. Original investigators falsified reports.
Case Closed


http://www.burlingtonnews.net/carbondalepage3.html

[SIZE=+2]Excerpts from The Scranton Tribune[/SIZE]


  • [*][SIZE=+2]Sunday Nov 10 1974[/SIZE]
Carbondale police clamped a lid of secrecy around the Russell Park area early this morning after persons reported seeing a strange light in the area possibly from a UFO-type object. A call was made to Forrest City police for a geiger counter at 1:30 am this morning. Carbondale officials also were in touch by phone with the government UFO information center in the Midwest.
  • [SIZE=+2]Monday Nov 11 1974[/SIZE]

A short time later, Dottle said a few youths told policethey saw the object come from Salem mountain and landin the pond which is located by the old DeAngeles Colliery.Once in the water, it began to radiate a mysterious glow.Several attempt by the police to retrieve the mysteriousobject with grappling hooks and a net proved fruitless andat 3:00 am, they accidentally covered the object with debrisfrom the pond.He than ruled out the possibility the object could have beena meteorite for two reasons: A meteorite would have fizzed outon impact with the water and it would not give off a glow. (DrAllen Hynek)When asked if it could be a part of a satellite, he did notdismiss the possibility but said that the glowing would stillremain a mystery.Due to the possibility someone might injury themselvesDottle completely sealed the area and called for theCivil Air Patrol for guard duty​

  • [SIZE=+2]Tuesday Nov 12 1974[/SIZE]
Carbondale authorities tried to put the lid on the case at a 6 PM news conference at city hall. The official verdict: It was a hoax. Some one called police Saturday at 7 PM and said they saw bright lights shoot over a mountain , hoover over a pond and then drop 500 feet into the water. Before investigators got to the scene, the pranksters allegedly dropped the lighted lantern into the pond. A popular (theory) one is that the five youngsters who made the first calls to the police were in two groups in two different areas. In the minutes after the first report, there were several other calls making it believable that if it were a hoax, it was a complicated one. There were reports that policemen tried to put a net on the glowing object described by one investigator as two feet in diameter, on Sunday morning but that it slipped from the webbing and fell deeper in the pond where it was covered by mud an debris. Another spectator said the object moved when it was shot at by a Carbondale officer. Dottle (acting police chief.) said late Monday that no one fired at the source of the light. And the youngsters who started it all early Saturday night were sticking to their story evan after a barrage of questioning by police and news reporters from as far as away as Philadelphia.​
[SIZE=+2]The Miner[/SIZE]

  • [*][SIZE=+2]Thursday Nov 14 1974[/SIZE]
There is still rampant speculation in the general public, however , that the full story of the UFO has yet to told. This skepticism has even affected us here at The Miner ,as part of our staff firmly maintains that there's still something up there. The credibility of the Carbondale officials is beingquestioned by a large segment of the public that is convinced that the lantern was planted in the pond in order to diminishthe public curiosity.​
[SIZE=+2]Excerpts from unknown newspaper[/SIZE]

  • [*][SIZE=+2]date unknown[/SIZE]
The two-day long UFO incident began Saturday nightaround 7 PM, when three teenage boys heard a noise inthe sky. the boys, Bill Lloyd, his brother John, and RobertGillette, the noticed a red ball coming from over Salem Mountain. It reportedly hovered over the DeAngelis Breaker pond and then plunged into the pond. About 9 PM Carbon-dale police investigated the incident after several phone calls. Arriving at the scene Patrolman John Barbaro and JosephJacobina observed a glowing object in the water about 20feet from the shore line. Maintaining the vigil were police and members of Carbon-dale and Scranton Civil Air Patrol. At that time , he also noted that both NORAD and NASAhad talked with the Carbondale police and that they reportedthat they knew of no satellite or other airborne objects which were missing(Robert D Barry,20th Century U.F.O. ResearchInvestigation Center.) It was at 2:30 PM that Mark Stamey of Syracuse N.Y. entered the water in his scuba diving gear. The boatmade its way to the spot where the glowing light wasseen Sat night and early Sun morning by witness. Stamey made several dives into the murky water. Atabout 2:35 he handed members of the boat crew thelantern he had found in 8 to 10 feet of water.​
[SIZE=+2]Excerpts from The Scranton Times[/SIZE]

  • [*][SIZE=+2]Monday Nov 11 1974[/SIZE]
Three teen-agers said they were walking about three blocks away from the silt pond when they heard a whirring sound in the sky above them. They looked up and saw a red ball crossing over Salem Mountain from the east and it was emitting sparks until it hoovered over the silt pond and then plunged about 500 to the water.The Gilltte boy said it turned the color of a bright star before it fell. Still considering the matter a hoax and thinking the light may be flashlight patrolman Jacobina took out his service pistol and fired. Jacobina said he failed to hit the object. The Gillette boy said the object moved when it was shot at. Two Wayne County deputy sheriffs told acting Chief Dottle Sunday afternoon they"knew what the object is." they declined to elaborate but note they had similar things happen recently in Wayne County​

  • [*]Tuesday Nov 12 1974
Mr Barry told reporters " three witness reported to us that the UFO came from an easterly direction over SalemMountain, landed in the middle of the pond...... He did not say it crashed into ,he said it landed in the middle of the pond to approx 25 feet from shore. He added,"we have 3 witnesses that saw it in flight and two witness saw it in the pond moving to where it finally stopped. When a reporter questioned Mr. Barry on the credibility ofthe witnesses, he replied "because they are teen-agers doesn't mean they're not credible witnesses". " I'd say 15 min elapsed between splashdown and thetime I got here . I stayed there until 3:25 in the morning.The glow seemed to dim, then less intense, then brighter. I'd say it took 5 min to complete a cycle. It pulsated very slowly. You could just about see it at its lowest point." This witnesses was older than the youngsters who first told police about the object.​
 

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Alien Crashes and Bodies Recovered [SIZE=-1](Updates will be seen in Red)[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]

Dates....Locations and Bodies Recovered

10,000 B.C.
[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]Sino-Tibetan Border The stunning story of the Dropas[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]


4,000 Year old Crash Site
found in Grand Canyon on Arizona
[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]Click here for details[/SIZE]http://www.burlingtonnews.net/grandcanyon2.html[SIZE=-1]

UFO Crash of 1561
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[SIZE=-1]Nurenberg, Germany [/SIZE][SIZE=-1]12-22-09
CHICAGO, ILLINOIS
Six years after Kitty Hawk, newspapers from New York to Chicago were were astounded by national reports of a huge airship flying across the nation and seen by thousands. It crashed west of Chicago, but was never found. The story was front-page news in the nation's major newspapers.[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]1938
CZERNICA, near Jielenia Gora. Seized by Nazi Germany, after Polish Invasion One Year Later. Updated 12-10-02

1953
BRADY, MONTANA
Mr. C M Tenney, returning from Gt. Falls to Conrad, saw an oval object that followed his car while balls of fire fell all over the road. Later that day he was phoned by a colonel from Malmstrom AFB who asked him to come to the base at 10 a.m. the next day. He was escorted to a windowless room inside a fenced-off compound and asked to sign a statement. While doing so, he says he saw two men carrying large laundry bags containing humanoid bodies.

7-22-47
ROSWELL, NEW MEXICO
4 bodies recovered

October 2, 1948
Phoenix/ Paradise Valley Arizona
(Dreamy Draw)
Cave Creek Arizona.
Approx. 3 months after Roswell, a UFO crashed somewhere in the Dreamy Draw area. Another version to the report has it that a UFO settled down in the Dreamy Draw area but actually crashed 10 miles away near Cave Creek landfill.

The remains of its two aliens, described as about 4½ feet tall, were recovered. They were kept in some guy's freezer for a while and then taken away by the military.

Some believe the reason the Army Corps of Engineers built the Dreamy Draw Dam was not for flood control, but to bury the UFO...
Also in that same area, you will find a large underground vault.


10-48
Cave Creek, Arizona
Only one living witness remains, living in Prescott, AZ.

3-48
Socorro, NM
Another craft came down in this vicinity that was much like the Aztec craft according to an ex-army private. The craft had multiple compartments, a central shaft or pole, a conveyor walk, and the outer shell of the craft was transparent from inside the craft.

2-13-48
AZTEC, NEW MEXICO
12-19
[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]Please click on this link for my site on Aztec showing picture and giving more information
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[SIZE=-1]
7-7-48
MEXICO
(South of Laredo)
possibly due to interception by American military aircraft. Photographic evidence was made of the alien bodies recovered (12-10-02)
1 body recovered

Mid-50's
BIRMINGHAM, ALABAMA
When a disc crashed near Birmingham, the area was cordoned off and humanoid bodies were flown to Maxwell AFB, according to a man who claims to have flown the helicopter with the bodies to a waiting aircraft.
Total bodies unknown at this time.

9-10-50
ALBUQUERQUE, NEW MEXICO
3 bodies recovered

1952
SPITZBERGEN, NORWAY
2 bodies recovered

2-14-52
ELY, NEVADA
16 bodies recovered

4-18-53
S.W. ARIZONA
No bodies recovered

5-20-53
KINGMAN, ARIZONA
People were taken in blacked-out buses to the crash site updated
1body recovered 12-10-02
Update:
A USAFveteran claims to have participated in the recovery of a crashed aluminum-like disc impacted 20 inches into the earth. It was oval, 32 feet wide. Inside were two swivel chairs, an oval cabin and numerous instruments. One 4 foot tall occupant was recovered, dead. It was a dark brown complexion and wore a silvery metal suit with no helmet. The witness affidavit was released by respected UFO researcher Ray Fowler in UFO Magazine, April 1976.

WESTERN UTAH
Reports indicate that the aliens survived the crash, taking refuge in the nearby woods and is related to the Kingman Crash (Cseti)


6-19-53
LAREDO, TEXAS
4 bodies recovered

7-10-53
JOHANISHBURG, S. AFRICA
5 bodeis recovered

10-13-53
DUTTON, MONTANA
4 bodies recovered

5-5-55
BRIGHTON, ENGLAND
4 bodies recovered

7-18-57
CARLSBAD, NEW MEXICO
1958
Utah Desert
Craft was in excellent condition but mysteriously abandoned by occupants update 12-04-02
4 bodies recovered

Jan 21, 1959
Gdynia Poland update 12-04-02

3-1960
New Paltz, New York
Local law enforcement authorities captured a small humanoid outside his craft while two co-pilots escaped. The alien was turned over to the CIA and died 28 days later.

6-12-62
HOLLOMAN AFB, NEW MEXICO
2 bodies recovered

11-10-64
FT. RILEY, KANSAS
9 bodies recovered

12-09-65
Crash in Kecksburg, PA
12-04-02

10-27-66
N.W. ARIZONA

1966-1968
crashes in Kentucky/Ohio Area
3 bodies recovered
1 UFO Found Intact
1 body recovered

1968
Shag Harbor Incident.
The One that got away.
[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]Click here for details[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]

1969
PENNSYLVANIA
recovered Craft (Stone) 12-04-02

7-18-72
MORROCO, SAHARA DESERT
3 bodies recovered

7-10-73
N.W. ARIZONA
5 bodies recovered

5-74
Chili, NM
An Air Force team allegedly removed a 60 foot wide metallic object from an impact area and moved it to Kirtland AFB


5-12-76
AUSTRALIAN DESERT
4 bodies recovered

6-22-77
N.W. ARIZONA
5 bodies recovered

4-5-77
S.W. OHIO
11 bodies recovered

8-17-77
TOBASCO, NEW MEXICO
2 bodies recovered

5-1978
BOLIVIA
no bodies recovered

11-88
AFGHANISTAN
7 bodies recovered

5-1989
SOUTH AFRICA
2 live bodies recovered

7-1989
Live Alien transported
in 2 galaxy transportsf from S.Africa to Wright AFB. This was the follow up of below crash
7-89
SIBERIA
9 live bodies recovered

11-24-91
[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]Alien space craft crashed into a remote area of
Southhaven Park in Shirley, NY.[/SIZE]
http://ebe.allwebco.com/Sections/UFOCrashes/Archives/long-island.shtml[SIZE=-1]The incident happened just after 7 PM according to John Ford, chairman of the Long Island UFO Network.

4-15-92
Buffalo, NEW YORK
10 Miles N. of Buffalo, 100' in diameter. Crash Site was cleaned up.
Not known if there were survivors 12-10-02

6-23-96
Pinedale, ARIZONA
Multiple witnesses saw a white light falling out of the sky, break into three balls of light and crash into the forest.. [/SIZE][SIZE=-1]Click here for the rest of the story.[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]

3-15-97
WEGORZEWO, Suwalki Providence. Site cleaned up by Polish Army.
No known survivors
12-10-02

4-15-99
Alien Ship beaches itself in Guam, Uranas Reef.
Survivors unknown. 12-10-02

8-2002
Unidentified spherical object landed near the Angolan village of Manzawu, in northern Uije province. Object weighs around 10kg and measures some 50 centimetres in diameter. Angolan Armed Forces were sent to investigate. No further information (AFP)[/SIZE]

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On May 13th 2008, the Vatican came forward to make an announcement that "It Is OK To Believe In Aliens." Twelve days later, NASA lands the Mars Phoenix Lander which is designed to search for life on the Martian surface. Are these two incidents linked?
Here is a link to AP's article on the Vatican and Aliens

For years, claims have spread that NASA already knows that there is life outside the Earth, and NASA have known about life on Mars for decades. So far, NASA has broken the news slowly and steadily. First it was declared that Mars has an atmosphere and Oxygen. Then came the possibility of water. Next the announcement that there definitely was water. More recently, NASA announced that silica deposits may be from microbial life, and now we land a robotic laboratory to search for life on the red planet.
If NASA is indeed releasing this information slowly, the obvious next step is to break the big news that microbial life does or did exist. If this were to happen (which it probably will), there is fear that religious uprisings and hysteria will set in throughout the world. This reasoning is actually considered one of the major reasons why NASA and other governmental agencies have been hiding the possible fact that life does exist on other planets.
It is quite interesting that the Vatican makes an announcement that life on other planets is OK. It almost seems as if the Vatican has been debriefed and already knows the outcome. The main question on our minds is: "Is The Vatican Trying To Prepare Us For The Truth?"

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this was my reply

That doesn't make any sense.

So what if we ally with bad aliens, we ally with Saudi Arabia and Communist China vs the Soviets.

So again, allying with bad people isn't a reason to hide aliens, it just means you can scaremonger about the aliens your at war with and get more power.
 

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I believe the Vatican is trying to tell us subtley that God was actually an alien being and we are all descendents of an alien seeding program.
 

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That doesn't make any sense.

So what if we ally with bad aliens, we ally with Saudi Arabia and Communist China vs the Soviets.

So again, allying with bad people isn't a reason to hide aliens, it just means you can scaremonger about the aliens your at war with and get more power.

ALIEN TYPES

From MUFONET-BBS network - Mutual UFO Network, written by David House:
Alien Descriptions - Varieties

DISCLAIMER: I make no claims for the accuracy of this list and express no personal opinion on the matter. It was given to me as "accurate information" and I just wanted to pass it along to anyone who might find it interesting or otherwise useful. I'd appreciate any feedback you'd care to share with me if you wish to proceed in a civilized manner.​
ALIEN TYPE 1: The Greys

Of this type there are several sub-types. All tend to appear greyish in color and for this reason are referred to as "greys."
GREY TYPE A:

This is the type most commonly referred to as the greys. Also known as Zeta Reticuli from the Zeta Reticulan star system (the Bernard star) neighboring the Orion area. They function in a mode that is apparently military in nature with a rigidly defined social structure that holds science and "conquering worlds" to be the prime movers. They are normally about 4.5 ft tall with large heads and black "wrap around" eyes. They have limited facial features, slit mouth and no nose to speak of. They have evolved beyond the need for reproductive systems or digestive systems and reproduce by cloning. Their genetics are partly based on insectoidal genetics.
Their science deals largely with the study of other life forms and genetic engineering. They have supposedly had a part to play in the alteration of human genetics over thousands of years. It seems that they may be trying to cross breed with humans in order to create a "mixture race" that would be better than either. (I've read that they are a dying species, that have cloned so much that now, with each successive cloning, the species grows weaker. They are trying to infuse new life into their species by creating the mixed breed.)
There seem to be two main social classes. One is the more hawkish and is more abrupt, crude and blunt. The more dove-like ones are more refined and capable of a more business-like behavior towards humans, and prefer to use more "diplomatic" behavior to gain control over human's. This type of Grey is what I believe is being referred to as the "Orange" class of Greys.
They seem to be emotionless (by human standards) and therefore are seen as cruel in their treatment of human beings. They are able to take human lives without any regard for that individual. They apparently can use certain substances of the human body for their sustenance and therefore appear to be carnivorous in regards to humans. (I also read that they extract fluid from some part of the human brain during intense emotional response [fear] and are able to use it like a recreational drug.)
It is my understanding that these greys are actually servants to a master race of reptilian-type aliens and are trying to prepare the earth for their arrival by gaining control over the earth through many means. They tend to enjoy the feeling of freedom they have on earth, away from their masters and would desire the help of humans in confrontations with the reptilians...which appears to be a consideration for the near future (mid 90's.)
These greys have their best known bases in New Mexico and Nevada but are also known to have bases in many countries of the world.
GREY TYPE B: Tall Greys from Orion.

Usually about 7 to 8 ft. tall (reports often exaggerate their height as being 9 to 12 ft.) with facial feature somewhat similar to grey type A with the exception of the large nose found on type B greys. These greys also have technologies that allow them to perform certain actions that appear "miraculous." These greys are less viscous towards humans than type A greys (but are still considered "hostile".) They tend to influence more through political controls and negotiated agreements with those in power. Their main bases seem to be in the Aleutian Islands.
These are the type seen not long ago in Eastern Russia.
GREY TYPE C:

These are the shortest of the greys and tend to be about 3.5 ft. tall. Their facial features are very similar to the Zeta Reticuli greys and are of the same "root race.". They are just as hostile to humans as the Zetas. They are from a star system near the shoulder of Orion called Bellatrax.
ALIEN TYPE 2: THE REPTILIANS:

A genetics akin to reptiles, these are highly advanced entities but viewed as being of a negative, hostile or dangerous disposition since they regard humans as a totally inferior race. They would perceive us much the way we would perceive a herd of cattle. They are carnivorous in regard to humans. There is supposedly a "driven" planetoid or asteroid inhabited by 30 million of these lizard-folk that is to enter our solar system in the mid 90's if the present schedule is kept.
They consider earth to be their own ancient outpost and would expect to have complete control of the entire planet upon their return. Their own planet is becoming unable to adequately support life and they need somewhere else to live. These are the aliens who are served by the type A greys.
ALIEN TYPE 3: HUMAN TYPE ALIENS


HUMAN TYPE A:

These are of a genetic base similar to humans of earth. They appear of "normal" height (5-6ft?) and tend to be fair-skinned with blonde hair. These entities have been abducted by the greys or are the offspring of abductees and have been trained by the greys as servants. These entities are totally subservient to the greys.
HUMAN TYPE B:

These are aliens of similar genetics to earth humans and also, it seems, of the humans that serve the greys. These are from the Pleiades and are also of the blonde, fair-skinned appearance. This type is of a genuine highly evolved, spiritual, benevolent variety and have a kinship toward humans and are the only aliens to be truly trusted by earth humans at this time. They had at one time offered to be of assistance to earth leaders in dealing with the alien situation here but were rebuffed and so have taken a kind of "hands off" approach for the time being. These aliens are supposedly the forefather race of humankind. These are apparently not on earth much at this time due to serious problems in the area of their home.
HUMAN TYPE C:

Very little is known about these. They are supposedly another of the highly evolved, spiritual type of great benevolence to earth humans. I understand that their appearance is similar to other human-type aliens. They are from Sirius and don't appear to be much involved with earth happenings at this time other than being concerned about the Grey scenario. They could desire to be of help to humans.
There are other known human type aliens of this "more highly spiritually evolved" nature that are apparently aware of the situation on earth and considering some possible course of action. These are from Arcturus and Vega.

The following article appeared in the summer 1993 edition (vol. 3 no. 2) issue of UFO Universe magazine.
[GROUP A] Non Earth-Born Humans

This GROUP consists of three peoples from three distinct colony zones, namely Sirius, Pleiades and Orion. Genetically, they are nearly identical to Earth-born humans with the following exceptions. Abductees refer to these beings as the talls. Males average up to approximately seven feet in height; females, six and a half feet. They are extremely fine featured, pale in complexion. Eyes are almond shaped, slightly slanted with a natural black liner, much like the renderings of ancient Egyptian royalty. There are three hair colors apparently related to colony origin: blonde (Pleiades), red (Orion), and black (Sirius). The insignia of these combined human races is a triangular arrangement of three spheres. This symbol has deep significance, and is found throughout Earth history. History records these beings as goddesses, gods, devas, etc. A subgroup of GROUP A females is in command of most Terran projects.
[GROUP B] Earth-Born Humans


These are Homo Sapiens whose origin is the planet Earth. They can be divided into two separate classes.
[Class A] (Ancient)

These humans were the companions and house servants of a GROUP A military mining and occupation force. When this force left the Earth sometime between 1,000 BC and 3,500 BC, it was decided to remove all humans that had been in close proximity with them. It was felt that leaving them would only further disrupt normal human development. Class A humans are on an equal level with GROUP A and cooperate fully in all Earth projects.
[Class M] (Modern)

These humans are working on the same cooperative level as Class A. They were taken from the Earth in modern times. During some abduction projects, twins (either identical or fraternal) are induced in a female subject. During the first trimester, one of the fetuses is removed. It is then grown to maturity by GROUP A. Abductees will meet their twins during some abductions. Very limited contact has been made by these humans.
[GROUP C] Genetically Modified Earth-Born Humans

These humans are comprised of two classes and should not be confused with GROUP D Greys.
[Class W] (Workers)

This class is the smallest in physical stature. They are described as approximately three and a half feet in height, large head and eyes, pale white in complexion. These workers were created by GROUP A through genetic modification of Earth human fetuses. Their function is to perform menial tasks requiring limited reasoning abilities. In mental capacity, they are equivalent to a five year-old child. They are incapable of violence and, in some cases, are kept as companions by GROUP A individuals.
[Class T] (Technicians)

These humans are basically the same as Class W. they are slightly larger, at approximately four and a half feet in height. Their complexion is tan or yellowish. Their reasoning and deductive abilities are higher. This allows them to perform more complex operations. They are often seen operating ship controls and in transport activities. Both Classes W and T are telepathically camouflaged to appear as Greys to abductees. This is done to conceal the true nature of GROUP C. It is felt that perception of GROUP A maintaining a human slave population would hinder future contact efforts. This point will undoubtedly be a source of much heated debate in the near future.
[GROUP D] Greys

Of the six groups discussed in this paper, the Greys appear to represent the only non-human contingent. The following data should be considered tentative at best. Height is approximately five and a half feet. The head is large; eyes large, black and very slanted. Skin color is dark grey and non-porous. All data so far indicates that they may be a cetacean-based life form. On Earth, this comprises the species of whales and dolphins. Descriptions of Greys' skin color and texture closely match that of dolphins. The stare and stun effects approximate that performed by dolphins on potential enemies, such as sharks and barracuda.
Human and dolphin fetuses are nearly identical, up to a certain development stage. Some say they share a common genetic ancestor. If so, then this makes the hybridization of humans and dolphins theoretically feasible.
(Note: For a more detailed look at this group, see The Dolphins of Heaven article.)
[GROUP E] Human/Grey Hybrids

One of the main ET projects, now in the completion stage, is the hybrid program. The goal of this project is to produce a being combining the best physical and mental qualities of both races. The following description is of a hybrid female, approximately fifteen years old. Height is five feet, three inches; skin color is pale white/grey. the head is slightly larger and rounder than normal. Hair is dark, high above the forehead, and worn in a very long ponytail. The face is very fine-featured, and attractive. Like all the beings discussed in this paper, her main method of communication is telepathic. This has allowed a deeper understanding of her intellectual and emotional make-up. They consider themselves human, not Grey, in almost all respects. They care about the Greys, as any child would a parent, but find them agonizingly boring. The desire for human contact is greater than all others. Their capacity for emotion is as great, if not greater than, humans. Any physical attribute more human than Grey is a great source of pride. Their intellectual capacity is well above human standards. It is very likely they will exceed the capabilities of both races.
[GROUP F] Sasquatch

These have been seen both near, and on-board, UFOs. Little is known about them. Some have speculated that they are the original pre-human species from which Homo Sapiens were derived.


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The Greys "agenda", if you will, is the hybridization of humans with the Extraterrestrial Biological Entities known as EBE's. These well-known "hybrids" have bred up to 15 generations, and to the untrained eye they are indistinguishable to us so-called Modern Humans. This scenario with the hybrids is presenting the intelligence community with a "huge headache". That specific information comes from a reliable National Security Agency source, since part of ETs agreement with the Pentagon was to keep track of these hybrids until they are fully integrated into our society. The ETs have NOT kept their part of this secret pact with the Global Corporate Elite faction who manages the alien-program. Thus, we really don't know how many hybrids are living in our society. Nor are we aware of how much they control the intel. agencies, but we must surely suspect that the infiltration is massive. One really needs to ask at this juncture if we humans were ever really "in control" of our own destiny! The voluminous amount of evidence suggests that we were not, but this vital information will never make the history books or the front pages of your locally Corporate-controlled press. I have spoken with certain military and aerospace insiders who regularly work with the "real" aliens, the ones that can perform mindscans and can transmit thought-projections into people's brains. There are many generations of the hybrids in these bases also. Apparently these hybrids will supercede the current crop of humans, present company included, I'm afraid to say.
This conundrum has the Pentagon, the NSC, NSA, NASA and the Security Council "bent out of shape," and I for one really can't blame them this time! Oh sure, the Global Corporate Elite have "screwed up (polluted) this majestic planet for the short-term gains of a few greed-heads" as proclaimed by the Over-Seers

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BEST SHAPSHIFTING EVIDENCE TO DATE

Quiet possibly the best shape shipping evidence on here in my opinion!!!!

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Qj8741m2jLc

BEST SHAPESHIFTING EVIDENCE TO DATE Pt 2
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=07saol9YJ-s

who's to say that they arnt already among us and that there is no need for disclosure as the may have infiltrated us ,and hybrid aliens walk around all the time, no need to say we have contact, if they are able to camouflage themselves as us, is there...???